Hi All, I want to find out more about Galants!

[Stezie]

:thumbsup: Hey all, hows it going! I drive a 2.0 Galant Sport (VR4 Lookalike!). I became the ower of this fine wagon only 2 weeks ago, :smug: and consider it a start on the ladder to the beautiful VR4. :happy:

I Know this is a site mainly for the VR4, but I was wondering if there is any tuning resources available for the 2.0 engine, /Hmmm as its a bit under powered. I have searched high and low and can only come up with a set of after market brakes for it. /help

[DUNLY]

yer best man to speak to about the 2.0 a think is scottish_ian, think hes done every mod possible to a GLS. ive stuck an induction kit on, slightly better performance, but a much better grunt! :smug:. Id prob say better exhaust system and then chip it, but ive not gone that far yet! good luck.

[bradc]

As dunly said, start on basics first like intake and exhaust and decide from there if it has a suitable amount of power, or if you need to speed money.

Also of course don't get into the trap of spending so much money on it that you could probably just buy a vr-4 anyway.

[Big Ian]

Also of course don't get into the trap of spending so much money on it that you could probably just buy a vr-4 anyway.

/help this being a main factor on why i still have mine
/yes

as engine mod's go (for a 2ltr)...not many aftermarket goodies for them :embarasse you'll pick up load's of ideas, tip's and help through out all the thread's N post's in this (family) club ...some (most) will be about the mighty VR4 but some of these can also help us with the starter pack 2ltr :smug:
but like we advice everyone who ask's, " Brake's and Suspension first" /yes pointless adding power without the chassis to handle it /yes

some other power option's: ECU-chip, nitrous, turbo converstion (only one knowin...so far?) or a super charger :inquisiti but 2 of these need a engine re-build!
ive done a /Hmmm ...couple of thing's to my car :rolleyes4 but mostly on the look's, brake's, suspension..etc,etc.. as engine mod's go ive a part stainless exhaust (Duel exit), De-Cat, induction kit with a cold air feed, good quality spark plug's, it'll surprize you how much power can come from just changing these simple thing's.
good luck :thumbsup: and keep us posted /yes

[bradc]

I was sort of thinking of you when I made that post. I was in a similar position before with my 1.8 gdi - go to the vbgarage to see it. That car still looks better than my vr-4, black with 17" mags looks great!

Best of all I sold it to a mitsi parts dealer, so if I want anything it will be really cheap for me.

[Stezie]

/help this being a main factor on why i still have mine
/yes

as engine mod's go (for a 2ltr)...not many aftermarket goodies for them :embarasse you'll pick up load's of ideas, tip's and help through out all the thread's N post's in this (family) club ...some (most) will be about the mighty VR4 but some of these can also help us with the starter pack 2ltr :smug:
but like we advice everyone who ask's, " Brake's and Suspension first" /yes pointless adding power without the chassis to handle it /yes

some other power option's: ECU-chip, nitrous, turbo converstion (only one knowin...so far?) or a super charger :inquisiti but 2 of these need a engine re-build!
ive done a /Hmmm ...couple of thing's to my car :rolleyes4 but mostly on the look's, brake's, suspension..etc,etc.. as engine mod's go ive a part stainless exhaust (Duel exit), De-Cat, induction kit with a cold air feed, good quality spark plug's, it'll surprize you how much power can come from just changing these simple thing's.
good luck :thumbsup: and keep us posted /yes


Thanks people!

Good man! So where would you start looking for an induction kit and exhaust system for one, :inquisiti or does a universal air filter and weld on powerflow do a good job? I really do wan't more vroom outta her but want value for money. :scholar:

Also a wee problem, its doing about 25mpg!, easy driving! Is this normal? I would't think the VR4 would be as sore as that on the juice! :embarasse

[BraindG]

25mpg is about as good as it gets im afraid :)

[psbarham]

25mpg is about as good as it gets im afraid :)
what ? for a 2.0 l , thats sick , my V6 does 30mpg average

[Stezie]

That really has me worried. I only have the car two weeks and have done 1300 miles - 25.6mpg! I Like the car but I'm already considering selling up and buying the 2.5 sport. But over in Rip Off Ireland, you pay a much higher road tax for the size of the engine - Its a no win situation!
I have been in my local mits garage and he told me the only reason why they would be sore on petrol is due to a bad service history, Its fully stampted and I changed the plugs last week again just to be sure....

[Nick Mann]

Is it auto or manual?

I would imagine that even if it is auto you are not getting enough mpg!

Unless you constantly drive like a hooligan!! /Steeringw :evil2:

The VR4 is lucky to get over 20, with spirited driving it will dip to single figures! :o

[Kieran]

The VR4 is lucky to get over 20, with spirited driving it will dip to single figures! :o

Blimey.... I usually get at least 22mpg and usually a bit more?

/Who was that at the back who said I drive Miss Daisy everywhere?! /pan

[DUNLY]

for a 2.0 im about the same, if im lucky 1'll get 28mpg, on average 26!

[Kieran]

for a 2.0 im about the same, if im lucky 1'll get 28mpg, on average 26!

That's about what my GLS did too-'Twas usually between 26-31mpg.

[psbarham]

That's about what my GLS did too-'Twas usually between 26-31mpg.
frickin 'ell mine managed 29 while towing , with the average being 30 while driving fairly briskly in manual mode , i love my car even more now :smug:

[DUNLY]

STEZIE:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/115mm-Mitsubishi-3000-GTO-Evo-Galant-Air-Induction-Kit_W0QQitemZ7993686571QQcategoryZ36680QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem
Thats the induction kit i got, its more just a filter and MAF adaptor, need to make a wee bracket to hold it in place. great price, from the US in 3 days, couldnt believe it, and makes a great Grunt from the engine :thumbsup:

[am2801]

even i get about 35mpg without PIGGIN INJECTION (oh the bain of my life) sorry about that. I wouldn't go putting an induction or powerflow on 'til uv sorted the fuel consumption. ask Ian about tuning it 1st he seems 2 know everything about the gls. this poor lad may end up running at 10mpg 'cos lets face it induction=noise, s/s system=noise put your foot down 4 more noise=petrol gone. especially when u get a better roar in 2nd at 40mph hehehe

If i'm wrong i'm sure someone will correct me.

apart from that hello, you'll find a friendly bunch here. ritual sacrifice only takes place after uv paid for the privilege!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Big Ian]

couldn't tell you what mine does to the gallon "if it need's petrol" it get's it! :rolleyes4

[DUNLY]

35 mpg mmmmmm sweet memories of ma last galant, it was a 1.8. what a motor. got a pic of it in ma garage, what a car. :smug:

[Stezie]

35 mpg mmmmmm sweet memories of ma last galant, it was a 1.8. what a motor. got a pic of it in ma garage, what a car. :smug:

That was the car I had before this one. I still have it, just on lone at he min. I gave that 1800 engine dogs abuse and it still gave me over 38mpg. /Hmmm It also felt quicker than the 2.0. And handled just as well, if not better than the new one. :rolleyes4

I have been told by some people that the 2.0 is very sore to run, but I can't accept the fact that even though it has an extra 10bhp in the books, why should it get 13mpg less than the older 1.8 GLSi did. :inquisiti
I'e worked it out over the last couple of weeks, I drove it easy, some short bursts and it only gave me less than 280 miles to the tank. I filled it up on monday evening, it came to the full line this morning and I gave it a hard run, ie very rarely below 90mph, to belfast and back - about another 200 mile round trip and it now has 300 miles on the clock and is looking for juice now.
My friend has the 2.5 turbo pajerio/shogun and says thats what it does to a full tank. Whats going on? the harder I drive it the easier on juice it be's!!!???

Where can I start looking for problems, who could I go to, what parts can I change to find out? /help

[Big Ian]

couldn't tell you what mine does to the gallon "if it need's petrol" it get's it! :rolleyes4
OK i'll let a brainy person work this out! /yes
round trip to Japfest this year was 813 miles and i used £120 worth of fuel and fuel was about 3p cheaper then?

also you must remember that even the 2ltr is a heavy car, and as thinking of going for a V6 /Hmmm..think again as their aint much between them :leer:
your car may be in need of a good service to get more mile's per gallon and more power? (think i'd have a look at the condition of my air fillter if i were you?) ....but to be honest when i'm driving along feeling safe and "very" comfy in my car (not to mention all the folk stare'n :smug: )....fuel doesn't even come in to my head :happy:

[Stezie]

OK i'll let a brainy person work this out! /yes
round trip to Japfest this year was 813 miles and i used £120 worth of fuel and fuel was about 3p cheaper then?

also you must remember that even the 2ltr is a heavy car, and as thinking of going for a V6 /Hmmm..think again as their aint much between them :leer:
your car may be in need of a good service to get more mile's per gallon and more power? (think i'd have a look at the condition of my air fillter if i were you?) ....but to be honest when i'm driving along feeling safe and "very" comfy in my car (not to mention all the folk stare'n :smug: )....fuel doesn't even come in to my head :happy:

Its got a full service history, last full service, 3000 miles ago by previous owner. The filter looks clean but its one of those motor factor cheapie looking thing. :embarasse It might be restricting air flow due to bad quality??!!?? I'm just thinking, I wouldn't mind a K&N panel filter, /Hmmm do you know if one is available for these cars?

:scholar: The new model is 200kg heavier than the older 1.8. the newer 2.5 is what?, 170bhp or so, more tourques?. so it should be able to pull itself along a bit easier??

[ANTHONY]

yep i'll 2nd that ....i'm quite happy with my 2.0 sport its got every thing i need

[Smokinmasta2]

OK i'll let a brainy person work this out! /yes
round trip to Japfest this year was 813 miles and i used £120 worth of fuel and fuel was about 3p cheaper then?

also you must remember that even the 2ltr is a heavy car, and as thinking of going for a V6 /Hmmm..think again as their aint much between them :leer:
your car may be in need of a good service to get more mile's per gallon and more power? (think i'd have a look at the condition of my air fillter if i were you?) ....but to be honest when i'm driving along feeling safe and "very" comfy in my car (not to mention all the folk stare'n :smug: )....fuel doesn't even come in to my head :happy:

If petrol was about 85p/litre? you got 26.18mpg.
141 liters is 31.05 gallons @ 4.54 litres per gallon?

I put £32.00 in mine just up the road from Coombe coming home (i nearly ran out on track!!!) i did 212 miles home and the petrol light back on giving 25.60 mpg in my VR4!!!! Doing an average of 80mph (highest 100mph) all motorway (including M25 race track :) ), dual A roads, and reasonable single A road for the last 20 miles.
This made up for 9mpg(ish) i got on the track some what!!

Did not realise the 2 litre was so poor on fuel!!!????

Smokin.................

[Stezie]

This made up for 9mpg(ish) i got on the track some what!!

Did not realise the 2 litre was so poor on fuel!!!????

Smokin.................


I didn't know they were as sore on it, until now, after I've bought one! Filled up this morning again and worked out 26.8mpg /pan and that was a lot of 85mph+(when it did get there! /Steeringw ) on main roads, motorways.

But thats the thing, I'd say you had a very enjoyable 9mpg!!

[Big Ian]

If petrol was about 85p/litre? you got 26.18mpg.
141 liters is 31.05 gallons @ 4.54 litres per gallon?
Smokin.................

:thumbsup: COOL, i can live with that /yes ...get's me ready for my next Mitsubishi :leer:

[Kieran]

I didn't know they were as sore on it, until now, after I've bought one! Filled up this morning again and worked out 26.8mpg /pan

That's not unreasonable. The 2.0 does seem to be a bit thirsty compared to the V6. Still, it's loads better than the 20-24mpg of a VR-4!! :rolleyes4

[Smokinmasta2]

That's not unreasonable. The 2.0 does seem to be a bit thirsty compared to the V6. Still, it's loads better than the 20-24mpg of a VR-4!! :rolleyes4


I put £32.00 in mine just up the road from Coombe coming home (i nearly ran out on track!!!) i did 212 miles home and the petrol light back on giving 25.60 mpg in my VR4!!!! Doing an average of 80mph (highest 100mph) all motorway (including M25 race track ), dual A roads, and reasonable single A road for the last 20 miles.
This made up for 9mpg(ish) i got on the track some what!!

Smokin............

[DUNLY]

ok.

from hard on empty mines takes about 45 quid to fill. put a tenner in it on monday and filled it up the day 38 quid and done 58 mile since then.

before i got the K&N style air filter i used to get 280/290 miles to a tank, now i get 340/350 to a tank.

and yes stevie i know what your talking about sometimes the harder you push it the easier it is on fuel, last 1 was the same, dusny makes sense, but it is a mitsubishi! :thumbsup:

[Stezie]

[QUOTE=DUNLY]
before i got the K&N style air filter i used to get 280/290 miles to a tank, now i get 340/350 to a tank.
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Thats about what I get to the tank right now aswell. I managed to hit the 300miles to a full tank, :smug: :smug: but the light was on for ages! /pan

That K&N style filter, do you get an adapter with it for the airflow meter, pics would be great or even a manufacturers name... /Hmmm I'm desperate to get more mpg outta this wagon because I do alot of driving and its gonna eat into my already low socialising fluid funds! :5shots: :givemebee

@ABESport :: I agree with ya there it a great car, it doesn't need a thing done to it except better mpg /yes . What kinda figures does yours come up with? Oh and cruise control would be nice sometimes too... /Hmmm

[DUNLY]

Hi Stevie this is the Filter i got

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/115mm-Mitsubishi-3000-GTO-Evo-Galant-Air-Induction-Kit_W0QQitemZ7995717311QQcategoryZ36680QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

And yes you do get the adaptor. i had to buy new bolts for it to bolt it on to the MAF sensor, and then make a we bracket to hold it in place, used the top strut hole that one of the bolts for the old air box came out of, to hold the bracket onto.

this pic might help? might not look it but its held on solid. if u want more pics pm me and i;ll take some more from the back and side.
Hope it helps
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=988

[Stezie]

Thats great dun. :thumbsup: I have to get me one of those now and see how she goes!! /Steeringw /Hmmm :smug:

[eeknz]

On the fuel comsumption for my standard VR-4, I use a corporate fuel card that I have to register the KMs every fill, which tells me that the most I've ever got on a tank is 470KMs (about 290Miles), with the worst being 350KMs (217M). I've got a new filter just like that one waiting for me to put in this weekend, so here's hoping it gets better.

[DUNLY]

what i done as well when i installed mine was disconnected the battery, so that when the new filter was on the ECU reset iself then learned the new set up. dont be put off straight away, think mine took about 2 weeks to see any difference.

get pics to you soon Stevie

[Stezie]

the most I've ever got on a tank is 470KMs (about 290Miles),


Thats a respectable figure fore a 2.5 v6 Twin Turbo! :thumbsup: I only got a tiny 2.0 engine and its just as sore to run! :embarasse

Is there a replacement de-cat pipe out there for the 2ltr models that you know of? /Hmmm

[Stezie]

what i done as well when i installed mine was disconnected the battery, so that when the new filter was on the ECU reset iself then learned the new set up. dont be put off straight away, think mine took about 2 weeks to see any difference.

get pics to you soon Stevie


I got another big question about the ecu, :rolleyes4 i'll start nother thread for that, maybe you can help me out there aswell! :scholar:

[Big Ian]

just spoke to my mate /Hmmm
i wonder if a car use's more fuel as it has air-con?...my mate has a 2ltr sport estate with air-con and he use's more fuel than i do

[eeknz]

When I first got the VR-4 the milage was crappy, and the auto climate control was always making me mad. It's been cold down our way so I've had the air con off for the last few weeks and been getting pretty consistant 420 - 450 KM / tank. Last two tanks have been 96 and they seem to be not as good.

[Stezie]

just spoke to my mate /Hmmm
i wonder if a car use's more fuel as it has air-con?...my mate has a 2ltr sport estate with air-con and he use's more fuel than i do


I usually have my aircon off usless it really sunny! Not much of a chance either cause I only have her 16days and it bust last weekend anyway, :inquisiti one of the pipes cracked and pissed refrigerant out from under the bonnet! I nearly emptied a load into my seat thinking I bust the radiator or something!!! :embarasse

But I got another pipe on this week and its getting refilled on the fly by an aircon dude tomorrow evening, for only 50euros! /yes :thumbsup:

[bradc]

In my old 1.8gdi it would be about 9 litres a day driving the 95km to work and back. With my VR-4 it is about 10 litres. I also find that in the VR-4 if I slow down to 100kmh and be careful with the revs I can get it down to 9 litres, instead of driving at 110-115 and flooring it every so often.

In the GDI I wouldn't get any better than 9 litres because I spent half the time with my foot to the floor just trying to keep up.

I can always get 500km out of my VR-4, no problems at all!

[DUNLY]

just e-mailed the pics of the filter i said i would. sorry about the delay. keep us posted! :thumbsup:

[Exbury]

Ok, new member here, owned my Galant (yes and 2.0 !!) :thumbsup: since Feb and put 18,000 miles on it already!!!

I have been logging each tank for the last several thousand miles as 1/2 way through I added one of these fuel magnets to the line in the hope that it improves mileage (like a multi million pound study in Iran showed, although they mainly tested for emissions).

Bottom line is if you are interested I should be able to pass on the results of the Excel file to you all as up to-date as it can be. I do think though I am getting 30-31mpg when driven hard occassionally and a reasonable 33mpg when in cruise mode (hey I drive lots of miles, its easier on the wallet as the company return a grand total of £0.12/mile).

The results (I have tried to keep the driving style similar) seem to show a small increase in fuel economy with the magnet, but hold your breaths as I need to add the last few weeks to the spreadsheet (and its at work!).

In all this time I have not replaced the plugs, and yes I would expect worse mileage as the plugs wear, not better. What I want to do now is to replace the plugs, keep recording for another month (say 8 tanks) and have even more results. However, two quick questions;

1 - What is the spark plug gap on a 2.0 GLS 1998 saloon 130bhp?
2 - Are the technical/service manuals on eBay any good ?

Hopefully someone out there can help me out with the gap as I want to see what difference these new plugs make! :happy:

Jason
Galant GLS 1998
Opel Manta B series 2.2 modified
Opel Manta A series modified and forthcoming project
Lotus Elan SE turbo 1991