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AllBeItMine
03-11-2005, 08:34 PM
thought i would post these up, the reason why my car has been off the road now for about a month...

more to come

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right - factory manifolds aren't going to work - going custom
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/flanges.jpg

2x
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/tial.jpg

some of the bends i will use
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/doughnut.jpg

jig's for the manifolds...
front manifold - bottom mounted turbo.
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/frontbottommount.jpg

rear manifold - top mounted turbo.
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/reartopmount.jpg

well, this is the first attempt...
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/manifoldtake1.jpg

first attempt at welding. omg i need to get better at this real quick!
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/welding.jpg

right... well, i guess the only thing you car really say is that its not coming apart in a hurry!!!

ugly on the outside but i am quite happy with the way it turned out on the inside. and please dont give me any crap with the thing not being equal length, or not flowy enough - theres just not enough room for it.

this is the rear manifold for the top mount turbo - and yes - i still need more practise welding!

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/man1.jpg
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/man2.jpg
http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/man3.jpg

well - rear one bolted on in place. just where i wanted it too which is good!

no wastegate flange as yet...

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/bolted1.jpg
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some pics of the front. work from the weekend.

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/frontmani1.jpg
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front.
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okay - back... DONE :-D

its in - wrapped, all gasketed and torque'd... its funny how long it takes to do up 7 manifold nuts... everytime you do up one, all the others get loose again!

anyway - so its all oiled and watered, it might look a little funky - but it should work!

just got to put the screamer pipe on the wasty and then start on the front... not long to go now! :-D

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one more - just with the added hose heat protection and the dumpy bolted on...
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last pic below of the back before it went in the car.
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some pics of the engine back in the car... i have photos of progress from the workshop. but took these after it got towed home this afternoon

(and yes... the radiator WITH fans is in as well :thumbsup: )

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right. so thats the front all assembled and ready to bolt on...

just waiting on my modified oil filter holder thingymajig now.

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okay - modified oil filter bracket on the left - original on the right. 1 inch down, one inch to the left.

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heres where it is now. just intercooler piping and finish of the exhaust to go.

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enigma
03-11-2005, 08:38 PM
hmmmmmm.....diy hybrids?

Nick Mann
03-11-2005, 08:52 PM
SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!

Let us know when you have the car running again, and I'll start asking!

Kieran
03-11-2005, 09:28 PM
Hmmm... So, new manifolds and bigger compressor housings.... And no doubt more that I've not spotted. Those manifolds look interesting. The stock ones also surprise me..... I'm far from an epert on gasflow.... But they are not good - unequal runners and a odd shape too!

I look forward to reading more. Where are you having the work done? Is that a friend's garage or something?

AllBeItMine
03-11-2005, 09:41 PM
they are wrx turbos. TD04-13t's not hybrids but complete

the wrx turbos that are in NZ on our wrx's are obviously different to the ones you guys get in europe hence the big 90degree bend on the snout which i had to chop off.

those are the factory manifolds and for the space they use, flow ALOT better than anything i could make/get made for anything less than a grand each.

its a mates garage, pitstop newmarket but i am doing all the work myself... well, apart from the odd bit of engineering, like the adapter plates on the manifolds...

there are two serious issues at the moment...

the front engine mount on the cross member will need to go around or over the front turbo...

and the firewall will need to be boxed.

oil and water lines are next then i will do a dummy fit...

TTV6VR4
04-11-2005, 05:00 AM
Are the WRX TD04's bigger than the TD04's off an evo?. What do you mean by the firewall will need to be boxed?. Also what are you gonna do bout the cross member?.

AllBeItMine
04-11-2005, 05:05 AM
Are the WRX TD04's bigger than the TD04's off an evo?. What do you mean by the firewall will need to be boxed?. Also what are you gonna do bout the cross member?.


smaller than the TD05's that are on the early evos, bigger than the TD04-13'gs that are on a gsr.

but remember i have two of them... and one of these turbos can power a worked wrx into the 12's

the rear turbo protrudes about 6cm;s further out that the old TD03 use to and the clearance wasn't huge to begin with so i will need to cut a section of the firewall behind the turbo and box it in to give the turbo and heatsheilding some clearance.

the front engine mount will be handled by an engineer - will let you know how i go with that when it happens

TTV6VR4
04-11-2005, 05:11 AM
Wouldn't it need like a cert then cause you have modified the firewall. How easy would it be to use TD05's then or is it pretty much impossible?. Good luck on your build I will be watching it on here and msport :thumbsup:

AllBeItMine
04-11-2005, 05:18 AM
td05s would be too big. i will already be able to 'outtune' the car with these turbos.

they should support up around the 500-550hp mark and i aint going close to that.

the reason i chose the wrx turbos was mainly because of the exhaust flange design, its reasonably close, and when all rotated and bolted on - they should fit.

the TD03's are soo small, that pretty much any turbo you choose to upgrade is going to cause you problems like i have.

and as far as certing goes - i haven't really looked into it. i probably should have got a cert for my suspension, and brakes.. but it hasn't stung me so far.

i am more worried about insurrance to be honest - i don't think anyone will touch me after doing this. but ah well.

bradc
04-11-2005, 07:48 AM
Hey ABIM, what times are you going to be there next week? I've been intending to bring my car in because the exhaust rattles a bit, I'll come past and look at your setup, it looks great, I think TD04's are in my future too ;) Where did you get the turbos from?

zentac
04-11-2005, 09:38 AM
td05s would be too big. i will already be able to 'outtune' the car with these turbos.

they should support up around the 500-550hp mark and i aint going close to that.

the reason i chose the wrx turbos was mainly because of the exhaust flange design, its reasonably close, and when all rotated and bolted on - they should fit.

the TD03's are soo small, that pretty much any turbo you choose to upgrade is going to cause you problems like i have.

and as far as certing goes - i haven't really looked into it. i probably should have got a cert for my suspension, and brakes.. but it hasn't stung me so far.

i am more worried about insurrance to be honest - i don't think anyone will touch me after doing this. but ah well.

only 500-550, hmmm no use for me then.... still thinking GT35R as a christmas pressie for the car :)

AllBeItMine
04-11-2005, 10:29 AM
only 500-550, hmmm no use for me then.... still thinking GT35R as a christmas pressie for the car :)


to be honest - i will be happy with anything over 200kw at the wheels that doesn't require a fuel system change.

the idea is to do the turbos, then get an aftermarket ECU and take it somewhere and tell them to tune it till it runs out of fuel.

after that i will look at it again.

200 honest kw's at the wheels with no-nos will keep me happy for a while

oh and (apart from the ECU which you will have to do anyway) my whole conversion will cost less and respond better than a big ball bearing single so seriously think again about the big garrett... there are easier ways.

AllBeItMine
04-11-2005, 10:31 AM
Hey ABIM, what times are you going to be there next week? I've been intending to bring my car in because the exhaust rattles a bit, I'll come past and look at your setup, it looks great, I think TD04's are in my future too ;) Where did you get the turbos from?


first thing you do before anything else - is buy another car.

i bought a mazda familar hatch back. 1500cc single cam 5speed. its been a life saver. once you have an alternate form of transport - then come talk to me about upgrading your turbos... its not a weekend job.

enigma
04-11-2005, 11:04 AM
oh and (apart from the ECU which you will have to do anyway) my whole conversion will cost less and respond better than a big ball bearing single so seriously think again about the big garrett... there are easier ways.

??

I wouldn't be sure about that! Can pick nice ball bearing turbos up for $500US, cheap as chips! The actual conversion to single would be minimal in terms of other costs, the engine could stay in and I reckon I could do it in a weekend!

Wodjno
04-11-2005, 11:10 AM
first thing you do before anything else - is buy another car.

i bought a mazda familar hatch back. 1500cc single cam 5speed. its been a life saver. once you have an alternate form of transport - then come talk to me about upgrading your turbos... its not a weekend job.

Looks like an interesting job.. It's good to see members trying there OWN thing :thumbsup: All these VR4's are individual and so are the people that own them... /yes Good job too.. :happy: As we all wouldn't want to be driving around in identicle cars would we.. /pan Or all think the same way about our MODS.. :rolleyes4
Keep up the good work and all at your own pace.. :thumbsup:

bradc
04-11-2005, 11:53 AM
I've got access to 2 spare cars, so no problem there ;)

valmes
04-11-2005, 01:01 PM
only 500-550, hmmm no use for me then.... still thinking GT35R as a christmas pressie for the car :)

What CFM would a single GT35R make?
Cause 2 TD04L-13T will each make 428CFM (rated at 2.0PR with a choke flow of 445CFM) = 856 CFM (890CFM) ... for a price of each at around 200$ = 400$ for both. How much is for a GT35R (830~940CFM)?

No need to make custom manifolds...
Yes, you would need a new/altered front engine mount.
Some hammering :) on the rear wall will get you enough clearance.
Oil and coolant lines are not so hard to mod.
Front fan from GTO/3000GT or something a bit slimmer than stock is required.
Oil filter line has to be bended somewhat...

No changes in response... at least nothing noticeable.
I still believe that for V shaped engines Twin Turbo setup yields better results for less money and effort...

AllBeItMine - good luck with your project! :thumbsup: Hope to see some results, since my car won't be pushed now until Spring... too much snow and ice already...

... and one more thing.

You will have problems getting standard plastic intake pipes to feed your new turbos. Unless you will make something custom. I made separate intakes for MAP, but for now will be using this (ordered.... hope it fits...):

Dejon Tools intake runners to turbos ;) (http://3s.dejonpowerhouse.com/) (Look under "Intake Pipes for CIP-3SC kit - 115$

BTW compare this, to price tag of PROS Eng. intake runners (something over 2000$) and you will see why "restrictive plastic intake" is not a problem anymore for Twin Turbo setup (if you remember the talk of pros and cons of one setup vs. another a while ago) :scholar: /yes

AllBeItMine
04-11-2005, 06:16 PM
... and one more thing.

You will have problems getting standard plastic intake pipes to feed your new turbos. Unless you will make something custom. I made separate intakes for MAP, but for now will be using this (ordered.... hope it fits...):



thanks for the info - i blame you blaintantly for insipiration to do this so its all your fault if it goes right! :thumbsup:

and thanks for the intake link - i will probably butcher the standard intakes for the meantime as i will be running seperate air filters once the ECU is done

AllBeItMine
04-11-2005, 06:30 PM
??

I wouldn't be sure about that! Can pick nice ball bearing turbos up for $500US, cheap as chips! The actual conversion to single would be minimal in terms of other costs, the engine could stay in and I reckon I could do it in a weekend!

$2500-3000 for a new GT35R in new zealand
$1500-2000 for the manifolds which would be around $750-1000 each
$$$ intake modifications for the throttle body to be placed on the other side.
$$$ intercooler piping

so far everything you see in the pics above owes me $361 nzd

i think technically the big single would be easier. but the engine would still come out. it wouldn't be worth ruining your back playing with the rear bank.

performance wise its hard to tell, the big turbo would be very remote but being ball bearing it would respond well, these turbos Valmes and I are using are well sized for the engine and very close for good response. Everybody i talk to tells me to stick with twin turbos on a V.

AllBeItMine
10-11-2005, 06:53 PM
found this. looks like somebody else down here tried similar thing to me... looks like they got it wrong though? can anybody see the obvious problems...

doesn't stop it looking good though!

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/ethcells.jpg

richy rich
10-11-2005, 07:00 PM
front turbo wrong way round isn't it.
looks good though.

Kieran
10-11-2005, 07:02 PM
No cambelt, and the turbocharger outlet is pointing downwards!! :inquisiti

AllBeItMine
10-11-2005, 07:10 PM
yeap. the turbos are facing the wrong way. meaning the exhaust will be a pig.

also the headers are way too big, this will never fit back in a VR4 engine bay.

the rear turbo also occupies the same space as the alternator should...

i am thinking they may have a different car in mind for putting this engine into... possibly a rear wheel drive north/south configuration.

enigma
10-11-2005, 07:33 PM
found this. looks like somebody else down here tried similar thing to me... looks like they got it wrong though? can anybody see the obvious problems...

doesn't stop it looking good though!



turbos are arse about face

bradc
10-11-2005, 07:33 PM
wow, that is one nice looking 6a13tt, where did you find it? I guess they put the turbos that way to have the compressor side of the turbo at the left of our engine bay, but kind of forgot the outlet ;)

TTV6VR4
10-11-2005, 10:12 PM
Where did you find that picture. Is that the 6A13TT from etchells race partz? I think they have one on a stand to show to people in their shop so that is probably it. If that is it then I dont think they use it.

AllBeItMine
10-11-2005, 11:17 PM
yeap. thats the one.

TTV6VR4
11-11-2005, 04:59 AM
Do you know much about that engine?

to4garret
11-11-2005, 06:16 AM
i new i should have water marked that image before i sent it to Allbeitmine /pan

the motor is internally standard, rebuilt to factory specs, the engine was more of a show pony to get people interested in the work he *ahem*Andy*ahem* does.

looks good though, i dont see it running any time soon though.

TTV6VR4
12-11-2005, 01:22 AM
i new i should have water marked that image before i sent it to Allbeitmine /pan

the motor is internally standard, rebuilt to factory specs, the engine was more of a show pony to get people interested in the work he *ahem*Andy*ahem* does.

looks good though, i dont see it running any time soon though.

Do you know what the adjustable cam gears on it are?

AllBeItMine
12-11-2005, 08:11 AM
you could give them a call... they might have made them themselves..

You See
16-11-2005, 08:07 AM
to be honest - i will be happy with anything over 200kw at the wheels that doesn't require a fuel system change.

the idea is to do the turbos, then get an aftermarket ECU and take it somewhere and tell them to tune it till it runs out of fuel.
You may need to change your fuel pump if you get around 200kw. I was talking with the guys this arvo, my car is leaning out around 5000rpm...fuel pump and/or larger injectors should solve this problem. :thumbsup:

TTV6VR4
16-11-2005, 08:20 AM
Do you think that a set of 550cc Evo injectors is a good upgrade over the stock VR4 ones?

You See
16-11-2005, 08:32 AM
All depends on your setup.....bigger is not always better.

AllBeItMine
16-11-2005, 10:10 AM
Do you think that a set of 550cc Evo injectors is a good upgrade over the stock VR4 ones?

450-510 would probably be enough for me... but evo injectors wont fit... i don't think anyway

and thanks you see. good to know. i think don got 188kw at the wheels without upgrading fuel... but yeah, fueling will come after the stock stuff is tuned to its limit.

are you able to PM me how your car finally went on the dyno?

You See
16-11-2005, 10:16 AM
:thumbsup:

bradc
20-12-2005, 07:44 PM
Just making a new post because while I know I've been following the picture updates Andy has been making, there have been no new posts, so the thread has dropped down a little bit.

It looks like you a still pushing along with the manifolds, and the back turbo is all done and in place. How much longer before the front one is done as well?

AllBeItMine
06-01-2006, 08:58 AM
HOLYCRAPOHMY****ENGODITFITS!!!

i mean it seriously fits, its in, the back turbo has the same amount of clearance as the old one did. all the lines are on, the shifter cables are on, nothing is fouling or touching anything!

its a fricken miracle!!!

i didn't even need to use a hammer!

oh - and it looks like its all going to fit at the front too. will even beable to keep the radiator and radiator fans. its a fricken miracle... honestly it is.

bradc
06-01-2006, 09:14 AM
haha, to be honest I'm surprised, but damned happy for you at the same time. What is the ETA now?

You See
06-01-2006, 09:37 AM
So what's next ABIM?

AllBeItMine
06-01-2006, 10:05 AM
i am waiting on a modified oil filter bracket. when that comes through i will be able to bolt the front stuff on, make up a new set of 2-> down pipes and i will be done.

Wodjno
12-03-2006, 07:14 AM
i am waiting on a modified oil filter bracket. when that comes through i will be able to bolt the front stuff on, make up a new set of 2-> down pipes and i will be done.

Any Further Updates :huh:

valmes
12-03-2006, 12:32 PM
i am waiting on a modified oil filter bracket. when that comes through i will be able to bolt the front stuff on, make up a new set of 2-> down pipes and i will be done.

If funds permit, get yourself a GREX oil cooler. It comes with oil filter relocation kit (as a bonus you will also have a place to stick your oil temp and pressure sensors at ;) ) ... I am getting one soon, so I can throw out my "modified" (bended and welded) aliuminum oil filter bracket.

Btw, did you get you front engine mount modified?

Wodjno
12-03-2006, 12:36 PM
If funds permit, get yourself a GREX oil cooler. It comes with oil filter relocation kit (as a bonus you will also have a place to stick your oil temp and pressure sensors at ;) ) ... I am getting one soon, so I can throw out my "modified" (bended and welded) aliuminum oil filter bracket.

Btw, did you get you front engine mount modified?

Would that to be like this ;)

valmes
12-03-2006, 02:44 PM
Would that to be like this ;)

did you get it? :2thumbsup nice stuff!

Wodjno
12-03-2006, 02:59 PM
Yes, I got this 1.. :happy: Just another thing on the list to fit B4 the Ring /help

valmes
12-03-2006, 04:09 PM
Wodj, will it fit ec5w?
Does it have a thermostat?

PS: Btw, I can't use pager... not yet anyway. I've been either too lazy or too busy to pay my fee to clubvr4. ;) (sorry guys!) Once payment bounced back I didn't feel like doing it again (way too much paperwork at the bank for my taste)... I asked my mother to create a paypal account for me (she lives in Switzerland... there is no way I can register with paypal from Russia - I guess ppl at paypal don't trust Russians :inquisiti ) as soon as that is done I will be able to use pager :) Sad story :evilgrin: j/k.
Well, until snow melts, no usefull news from this part of the world anyway!

Wodjno
12-03-2006, 04:15 PM
It's Universal. Make it Fit :2thumbsup

Thermostat does not come with it !!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8039974962&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT

valmes
12-03-2006, 06:16 PM
It's Universal. Make it Fit :2thumbsup


Hmmm, good point... will have to take a look at some nissan and toyota oil filters... thanx.

AllBeItMine
24-10-2006, 10:53 PM
so it has been a little quiet on this front... for quite some time actually. oops:

but i went and lifted the bonnet of the car and tried to get the latest jig saw puzzle back together.

so finally made some progress. wahoo. might even get my motivation back now daylight savings is here and summer is coming. :-D


http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/22-07-06_1642.jpg

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/15-10-06_1017.jpg

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/15-10-06_1016.jpg

d i c k i e s
24-10-2006, 11:57 PM
lookin great! damn from back in march...

AllBeItMine
12-01-2007, 12:24 PM
well its done.

i am taking it into a mates workshop next weekend to put it on a hoist and give it a spanner check - its been sitting so long i am terrified i have forgotten to tighten something. Then I fill it full of fluids and see if it goes.

once its running - then we will look at the ecu. dont think anything really exciting is going to happen till i get it to a tuners...

http://andrew.blackpepper.co.nz/04-01-07_1446.jpg

i'll get hold of a decent camera and take some better pics when i get a chance.

its still at bit bitsy at the moment cause i am still running the MAF - but once i can get rid of that i can setup the cold air box and proper airfilter arrangement. should look less moari then.

bradc
12-01-2007, 07:49 PM
Cool :D

MR202
14-01-2007, 09:11 PM
.../gj

AllBeItMine
17-02-2007, 09:38 AM
well i turned the key today. after spending all morning making up the dumpipes, downpipes and screamers.

it actually started first time. which ****en amazed me! i was seriously like - WTF the engines been sitting for 15months with no oil in it. and i just put a set of jumper leads on her and away she went.

was wicked



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about 25 seconds



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i have never ever


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was pretty surprising actually.


the engine idle for about 25 seconds and i was all smiles then i hear this funny noise like somebody blowing bubbles in a bottle of coke with a straw. and i realise that one of my turbo oil feeds isn't hooked up righ and there is 4 litres of oil on the ground

that was coool.

/sigh

so i clean it all up. fix the feed. degrease the engine, degrease the workshop. put another 4 litres of oil in it. and start it again.

this time i get a drip..... drip..... drip and its coming from behind my modified oil bracket. seems its not flush.

so i take it all off. oil goes every where again. put another gasket in there and put it all back together. bit of a mission actually cause i have to remove the starter to get to it. clean up again. start it again.

now thats fixed. but now there is a dam drip drip drip of water. trace that to a perished water hose. replace that. wahoo - fixed that.

go to put the intercooler piping back on after replacing the hose and somehow manage to catch a bracket on teh top of the radiator. the plastic top of the radiator. the cheap, thin, plastic top of the radiator. catch it in such a way as this little brack thing comes off and takes a chunk of plastic with it.

great.


now i have a hole in the top of my radiator.


/sigh.


i think - that can wait. start it again.

no more leaks.

hazar!

i am actually amazed at this point. all that stupid piping and plumbing i did is all holding onto the exhaust gases quite well. no leaks.

but there is this strange ticking noise.

which takes me about 2 hours to trace.

i've worked out its the three pronged disc that rotates through the crank angle sensor.

i think i must of accidentally bent it when i was replacing the cam belt. and evertime it rotates its wacking something in there.

which is a real ****. cause its a bit tricky to get to.

but i am happy.

i managed to drive the car from one side of the work shop to the other today. first drive in since october 2005. haha.

haven't even reved the engine yet cause of the stupid crank sensor is giving me the heebeejeebees.

so - i think my plan now is to *possibly* find a radiator repairer and a new bunch of parts for the cam cover area.

then i might take the whole engine out again. give it a dam good clean up. put all the stuff back on nice and properly and get it running smooth as silk.


argh


what a day. honeslty.

bradc
17-02-2007, 09:54 AM
so we'll see you tomorrow in the VR-4 then? :)

AllBeItMine
17-02-2007, 09:57 AM
so we'll see you tomorrow in the VR-4 then? :)

not a chance. not driving it anywhere with the risk of the crank angle sensor chopping itself to bits.

but i will be fishing around for parts so if anybody has something they may like to "lend" me that would be great.

rayray24
17-02-2007, 10:30 AM
:speechles That is a piece of art man!


/rally Bet you can't wait until you get to drive it a more than 20meters!

Good luck, hope you don't have that much trouble again!!

Kieran
17-02-2007, 12:47 PM
It'll be nice to see this project come to fruition! You have the patience of a saint! Keep going!:happy:

AllBeItMine
10-03-2007, 08:53 PM
okay so it done. its workin and everything is pretty much sweet.

drove it all the way home from the workshop. even boosted it a few times to see how the screamers work.

its actually pretty quick considering its only running 7.5psi.

i got a couple of issues though.

i got a catch can and i cant find anywhere to put it in the engine bay... HELP.

i got a small oil leak coming from behind the oil filter bracket...which is going to be a bit of a ****.

um. other than that its just tidy up stuff. needs a wash, wof, rego etc.

but yeah. she goes pretty good.

bradc
10-03-2007, 09:18 PM
GREAT :D

You'll have to get that oil leak sorted and go and see Robin at Torque poerformance. Is it laggy compared to stock at all and how much faster is it? (If you can remember hahaaha)

Nick Mann
10-03-2007, 10:20 PM
Top job! Well done, sir. I too am interested in your seat of the pants interpretation of the power change, plus actual figures after the running in period.

:thumbsup:

I bet it's a good feeling to drive it again!

AllBeItMine
13-03-2007, 01:33 AM
funny aye. its not laggy at all. maybe once i get the boost turned up a bit it will feel a bit more laggy.

brad - you will have to come and take it for a spin with me - i haven't driven a vr4 in 18 months so i cant remeber what they are like.

triniVr4
13-03-2007, 04:19 AM
congrats man....pm sent btw...

bradc
13-03-2007, 05:48 AM
Might do, I will be at Kenneths this weekend, not sure how much free time I will have unless you feel up for a drive out to Albany? (not that I'm inviting you to someone elses house hehe)

AllBeItMine
15-03-2007, 10:56 PM
Might do, I will be at Kenneths this weekend, not sure how much free time I will have unless you feel up for a drive out to Albany? (not that I'm inviting you to someone elses house hehe)

i will be going in to see lance on saturday morning.

so pop in on the way if you are around


edit / do you still have my tools? or do i have them?

bradc
16-03-2007, 12:09 AM
I've got your tools, what time will you be there?

AllBeItMine
16-03-2007, 01:34 AM
I've got your tools, what time will you be there?

have you got a phone yet i could text you?

bradc
16-03-2007, 01:53 AM
haha nope. As it turns out I'll be heading over to newmarket at about 9:30, then coming back at about 10:30, are you going to be there at either of those times?

AllBeItMine
16-03-2007, 02:20 PM
yeah. i will try and be there (greenlane) at about 8:15-8:30 so pop by then.

Munta
16-03-2007, 11:35 PM
dam would be nice to see your car. been waiting till u got it finished. would like to meet u as i live in te atatu as well.

bradc
16-03-2007, 11:45 PM
went for a bit of a cruise today, it feels a lot faster on boost than a stock car, and there is no difference in lag at all, I'm impressed.

AllBeItMine
17-03-2007, 12:27 AM
got a warrant. wahoooo!

once i get a few more leaks fixed and the BOV on there and a couple of other things i will come along to a meet.

still got to get the balls to put my foot down!

Munta
17-03-2007, 02:17 AM
good work man... impressed ^_^

AllBeItMine
19-03-2007, 05:00 AM
Brad - did you get my PM?

bradc
19-03-2007, 07:51 AM
nope....when did you send it?

AllBeItMine
19-03-2007, 12:52 PM
Alternator Tensioner Pulley

Hey Dude -

do you think when you are next around new market - you could lend me your alternator tensioner pulley?

would be greatly appreciated.

bradc
19-03-2007, 08:04 PM
ok, not a problem, now what does it look like? And it wasn't the belt that I cut in half?

AllBeItMine
19-03-2007, 10:08 PM
nah nah - just the pulley.

its a ribbed pulley that sits on a tensioner bracket just left of the dip stick.

it holds the belt on for the alternator at the back end of the engine.

just need a 14mm socket and undo the nut in the centre of the pulley

bradc
19-03-2007, 10:29 PM
ok, I'll look for it tonight

AllBeItMine
20-03-2007, 10:10 PM
ok, I'll look for it tonight


anyluck?

bradc
20-03-2007, 10:24 PM
not sure, I've got one, but I don't know if I got the right one, remember I pulled apart the entire thing. How about I meet you on Saturday at either Lance's or at the cafe next to NFC in newmarket?

AllBeItMine
21-03-2007, 03:53 AM
yeah cool dude.

i will be at the New Market PitStop at 8 in the morning.

bradc
21-03-2007, 04:24 AM
8??? hahaha, see you at 9

AllBeItMine
23-03-2007, 12:44 AM
Engine Check Light came on this morning

****.

The stupid fans aren't coming on.

The car is getting REALLY hot but the temp gauge isn't moving from the normal place

So the temp gauge must measure the temp from a different place. The fans work fine as they come on before the car starts.

piece of junk.

Kenneth
23-03-2007, 01:06 AM
Engine Check Light came on this morning

****.

The stupid fans aren't coming on.

The car is getting REALLY hot but the temp gauge isn't moving from the normal place

So the temp gauge must measure the temp from a different place. The fans work fine as they come on before the car starts.

piece of junk.

Temp gauge measures water temp I think. which means you either don't have water flowing, or your engine internal temp is actually ok.

I am having the same issue with my galant, though for different reasons I suspect.
The test is to let the car idle and see if the fans come on after reaching running temp, or if the water boils over into the expansion bottle first. Obviously if it boils, turn the car off.

you have a lot of stuff wrapped with heat wrap? I wonder how this affects the temperature of the block...

AllBeItMine
24-03-2007, 07:46 AM
8??? hahaha, see you at 9

hey dude - what happened today?

i got my powersteering sorted. custom fabricated a bracket to hold the tensioner.

but now i dont have an alternator :-(

any chance i could grab my tools and that pulley off you tommorrow?

bradc
24-03-2007, 08:39 AM
Dropped off what I thought you wanted to Lance in the morning at about 9am, did you get that from him and was it the wrong one?

I gave him the tools as well :)

AllBeItMine
25-03-2007, 03:00 AM
Dropped off what I thought you wanted to Lance in the morning at about 9am, did you get that from him and was it the wrong one?

I gave him the tools as well :)

ahhh - haha - i was in the new market pitstop.

saw lance last night. pretty sure you dropped off the wrong one.

its the alternator tensioner pulley i was after - not anything to do with the cam belt.

what are the chances i could get that off you early next week?

bradc
25-03-2007, 03:14 AM
you mean the one that swings about to change the tension on the pulley? I thought there was only one of them, and that was the one on the cambelt

AllBeItMine
25-03-2007, 04:57 AM
you mean the one that swings about to change the tension on the pulley? I thought there was only one of them, and that was the one on the cambelt


no no - haha. stop thinking about the cam belt

its the alternator belt. the one you can see on the outside of the engine

driven from that big pulley we took off your engine with the slide hammer.s

AllBeItMine
25-03-2007, 07:53 AM
this one here. its even already circled in the picture uploaded by another forum member

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/uploaded/2949/1173134429.jpg

i have beer and stuff waiting if that is an incentive?

bradc
25-03-2007, 08:31 AM
ahh right, the one on that sliding bracket thingee. I'll bring it to work on monday, when will you be able to pick it up from me or lance?

AllBeItMine
25-03-2007, 01:05 PM
ahh right, the one on that sliding bracket thingee. I'll bring it to work on monday, when will you be able to pick it up from me or lance?

dude - that would be awesome.

yeah i will pick it up from lance along with my tools

thanks dude! this is the last thing i got to worry about.

Gly
25-04-2007, 09:38 AM
any chance this is all done now?

got any picture updates for us?

(what happended to all the original ones???)

snickells
01-05-2007, 05:14 AM
Yea, none of the picks are working and id LOVE to see em.

timmae2009
29-03-2010, 05:03 AM
Bump.........Update????

CANDEE
29-03-2010, 06:20 AM
Bump.........Update????
Car is looooooong gone dude... Think he had mega issues with it running right and sold it...

Turbo_Steve
29-03-2010, 11:21 AM
Nah he got it running right, but sold it so he could skipper a boat :D