HID fitted...

[vampirej]

Hi all,

Went to Impulse yesterday, just for a bit of a chat... then all of a sudden, my bonnet was opened and I found that a set of HID had been fitted to my bonnet, and I'm 150 pounds lighter...
I haven't had a chance to post the pics yet, but will do so as soon as I get to work tomorrow, so should be able to post some pics by tomorrow night.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/vampirej/VR4/NormalHeadlight.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/vampirej/VR4/HIDPassenger.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/vampirej/VR4/HID1.jpg
It's a lot better at night, and it looks sooooo much better. :evil2: :evil2:



Jon

[vampirej]

pics updated... The original ones screwed up... so will resize and re-attach...

[OSiRiS]

Very nice. What temperature?

I have 8000k and this is what it looks like in the daylight even!

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1232/dsc012748pa.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7448/dsc012776ye.jpg

[vampirej]

I think they are either 7500 or 6500, but didn't really read the box... heehee
They surely make a difference, especially down the country lanes at night

[nodding_dino]

150 isn't bad for a decent view of the road! Where abouts did you get them done? I live out in the sticks and could really do with some extra light out front when driving around the twisties!

[vampirej]

Got them from Impulse Performance - www.d2racingsport.co.uk

[BraindG]

Looking Good! /Steeringw - when ive got the cash, thats another one on the list.. :thumbsup:

[SGHOM]

this kit any good ??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/9500K-Xenon-HID-Conversion-Kit-Sky-Blue-All-Types_W0QQitemZ8027734369QQcategoryZ23009QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[OSiRiS]

Yup that'll do the job :)

[ShadyNZer]

how much were yours osiris? and from where?

[OSiRiS]

I can do them $300.00 installed.

[bernmc]

Got them from Impulse Performance - www.d2racingsport.co.uk (http://www.d2racingsport.co.uk)Vamp, how much modding needed to be done to get them to fit? There are a couple of threads on the forums where members have had to dremel and tweak a bit to get the bulbs to fit properly - did you have to do this, or was it a straight fit?

I leave for work when it's dark, and come home when it's dark - haven't seen daylight it months (It Burns! It Burns!), so I'm desparate for decent lights! My current 80W bulbs keep frying their connectors!

[OSiRiS]

The kits I install in NZ are a straight fit in about 30 minutes with NO cutting needed at all.

[ShadyNZer]

3 hundy aye....hmmm

[I-S]

From what I've read the cheapest kits available on ebay and the like have fairly unreliable ballasts. One kit that is well thought of in the uk is the Pilot kit from www.hids4u.co.uk, for £225.

The other issue is colour temperature. As you increase colour temp, you decrease brightness. For an open reflector (like the galant/legnum 8g) the optimum is around 4500k-6000k for a compromise between whiteness and brightness. Higher colour temps give less light output, and 12000k (as are available) are not only quite dim, but so purple that plod will stop you the first time they see you. Buying a 9500k kit won't get you any more light than a decent bulb (eg osram silver star), just a different colour.

[ghanda]

Mine are 8.5K's and being totally honest, they're a little too blue - however, the light output is stunning.

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=1201

[WildCards]

So... sorry to be a dunce but are these kits aftermarket Xenons or are HIDS different to Xenons?

BTW they look very good, would deffo be something i'd be interested in if/when i get a VR4, Also, can you get an extra bright bulb fitted so I can outshine the kuntz on the way home from work in the evening?

[I-S]

There are two methods used to create light for headlamps (until LED headlamps hit the scene in a couple of years time, then there'll be three):

1) Incandescent. This is your normal lightbulb with a hot filament in an inert gas.

2) HID - High Intensity Discharge. This is where a high voltage is applied to a tube of gas, producing a very bright arc.

The confusion arises because "Xenon" is used in conjunction with both types. The brightest incandescent bulbs use Xenon as the gas because it allows the filament to run hotter (and therefore brighter) without burning out. In an HID system, the arc is struck in Xenon gas. HID is the very bright, bluish lighting you see on mercs, bmws, audis, lexus, etc.

[WildCards]

Thanks you Isaac. So these kits would be equally as good as standard German manufacturer factory fit Xenon bulbs. Cheers.

[I-S]

Not quite. Factory-fit HID systems are lower colour temp arcs (usually 4200k) in a particular design of projector lens which gives a colour shift to the blue colour. The 4200k arc is brighter, but in the reflector housing of the galant would give a fairly normal bulb-like colour (and the bluish colour is part of the perceived improvement of HID lighting, because it is much more similar to the light on a clear (blue sky) day). Using a 6000k HID kit in the galant's headlamp will give a similar colour to factory-fit systems, but not quite as bright. Using a 4500k will give the brightness, but not the colour.

The only factory-fit HID systems I know of that used a reflector housing rather than projector were the Lexus LS400 mk 4 (98-01) and the Renault Laguna II (01-05. The 05-on facelift version uses a projector).

[WildCards]

The blue colour might look good, but its the brightness that i'd be after. Thanks for the info Isaac :thumbsup:

[I-S]

It's not just about how it looks. Your eye is more responsive to the bluer colour as it is closer to the light on a sunny day (which is 5600k). In other words, if you saw the same scene lit with the same brightness with 3000k and 6000k systems, you'd be able to see more clearly and easily with the 6000k. The OEM systems get both the brightness and colour, whereas aftermarket fit systems trade one against the other to some extent.

However, an aftermarket 6000k HID system will still be much brighter than even the best incandescent bulbs, even if it's not quite as bright as a 4200k HID.

[vampirej]

Vamp, how much modding needed to be done to get them to fit? There are a couple of threads on the forums where members have had to dremel and tweak a bit to get the bulbs to fit properly - did you have to do this, or was it a straight fit?

I leave for work when it's dark, and come home when it's dark - haven't seen daylight it months (It Burns! It Burns!), so I'm desparate for decent lights! My current 80W bulbs keep frying their connectors!
Sorry about the late reply, can't check the forum from work anymore and missed this thread totally...
Anyway, it took us about 1 and a half hours to do the whole thing, the adaptor fits fine and there are rooms to fit the ballas (sp?). The bulbs go straight in without any drama, the only thing that needs modding is the legs that go into the original plugs to get power to the ballas, but that's only if you want to use the plug / sockets provided, it's basically the 2 wires that goes into the original plug, take the power off there and power to the ballas, then power the control unit to fire up the bulbs. There are no need for us to cut any wires, we only used a pair of pliers (again SP?) to make the legs of the wires to fit into the socket, that's all.
To fit the bulb itself to test, it took 15 mins.

The bulbs supplied are 6k or 6.5k but I can't remember exactly, but the higher you go, the bluer they become... apparently.

Cheers,

Jon

[MunkyWrench]

osiris, how much for those parts? no install?

does anyone know of angel eye kits for the 8g?

[Gly]

no angle eyes, kits can be had for around $300 if you know who to ask,

i got mine for $50 :D

[OSiRiS]

Yup around $300. Obviously you pay for what you get, and get to choose what colour temperature (6000k, 8000k, 10000k etc) and what bulb type.

$50 is a good one off price though. Good buy :)

[Nick Mann]

Good Angel Eye thread:

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5814

[jayjay99]

vampirej, do you know the make of the kits you used, they look brilliant, I so want some HIDs but don't really wanna be doing dremmeling to get them in etc. Or can anyone recommend a kit off ebay etc, easy to fit and around say 6000k?

Cheers

[OSiRiS]

6000k will get you a white colour. 8000k will get you a bluish tinge. 10000k will get you a purplish tinge.

[vampirej]

OSiRiS is correct... I can't remember the make but will double check this with Kenny. I think mine are either 7500k or 8500k.
I know it's a Korean make...

[jayjay99]

Yeah cheers, I keep swaying, to get some or not, I see posts where it's taken under an hour to fit and then other times it's taken people up to 9 hours I just saw on another thread! :inquisiti

[OSiRiS]

It only takes maximum of 1 hour.

Very easy.

[ShadyNZer]

hmmm might give u a buzz next month osiris...unless something comes up then splurt....my lights are tits on the back roads...

[OSiRiS]

lol yup.

[jayjay99]

It only takes maximum of 1 hour.

Very easy.

Ah, cool, well I guess it depends on the set you get, let me know if you find out the make, cheers. Think I know what I might be getting this month!

[OSiRiS]

Ah, cool, well I guess it depends on the set you get, let me know if you find out the make, cheers. Think I know what I might be getting this month!

Hey there,

Should be the same for all kits. Pretty much universal, it's just the lightbulb style and size which is different :)

For Legnum it is H1.

[You See]

For Legnum it is H1.
You sure it's not H7? :P

[jayjay99]

H1, ok, so just something like this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9004-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ8049559335QQcategoryZ72235QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem) or this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ8049502666QQcategoryZ72235QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)? I think I'd go with 8000K.

[bernmc]

H1, ok, so just something like this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9004-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ8049559335QQcategoryZ72235QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem) or this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H4-H7-H11-9005-9006-9007_W0QQitemZ8049502666QQcategoryZ72235QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)? I think I'd go with 8000K.

I was tempted by those too. One of the comments I read from a disgruntled type was that the kits were supplied with ballast but no 'voltage stabiliser' if I remeber correctly. Anyone know what the devil that means?

Does anyone know what we should be looking for in these kits - prices seem to vary fro 90ish to several hundred...? Must be some difference?

[OSiRiS]

It's H1.

Isn't it?!

[scc]

It's H1.

Isn't it?!

Installed H7 on mine.
scc

[OSiRiS]

Weird. H1's dropped straight into mine.

I'll double check tonight, but I was looking at the box last night and it said H1. I remember that factory it was a very small bulb, with a plastic "holder" adaptor thing which mates up to the standard headlight wiring. I did away with the whole bulb and plasitc holder, and fitted a H1 inplace which clamps down perfect fit, even with the that fiddly metal clamp holding the lightbulb in place.

[scc]

I have H1 only for my high beams, H7 for my dipped beams, and T4W/233 for side lights.

scc

[bernmc]

Weird. H1's dropped straight into mine.

I'll double check tonight, but I was looking at the box last night and it said H1. I remember that factory it was a very small bulb, with a plastic "holder" adaptor thing which mates up to the standard headlight wiring. I did away with the whole bulb and plasitc holder, and fitted a H1 inplace which clamps down perfect fit, even with the that fiddly metal clamp holding the lightbulb in place.

Osiris - Is this for your dipped beams? Standard dip is definately H7, but maybe the H1 HIDS are an easier fit and saves the dremeling...? This would make things a lot easier for anyone wanting to fit HIDS...

[Gly]

mine are H7 and fitted directly in, no mods needed

[You See]

but I was looking at the box last night and it said H1
My box also says H1, tho the guy (John) had to zoom home and get the H7s the H1s were the wrong kit. /pan

[OSiRiS]

Oh right maybe that's what the problem is.

I've definately got H1 system in there though. I just bought another set for my mate and it was H1, exactly the same bulbs as mine. I just compared. Weird.

[jayjay99]

Ok, now I'm completely confused, so H1's are for converting the full beam and H7's are for converting the normal headlights? So if I did the H1's I'd have to have my lights on full beam to get them to work wouldn't I? So I need H7's so the HID's are my standard headlights, correct?

[OSiRiS]

Go by what everyone else is saying. I don't know why H1 worked in my standard low beam.

[vampirej]

I went for H7, direct fit.
Didn't get a chance to call Kenny today, but will do so tomorrow.

[Gly]

H7 for dripped main beams
H1 for your high beams

[OSiRiS]

lolers. Must have just been me then :P

[vampirej]

Checked with Kenny, he said that the brand was GHC, made in Korean. However, he's found another Korean make which is better quality and have smaller ballas. Also some other Jap makes as well.

[jayjay99]

H7 for dripped main beams
H1 for your high beams

So dipped main beams = standard head lights = H7? correct?

I know I probably sound like a complete idiot but I just wanna make sure. :)

[OSiRiS]

High and low beams fitted with 8000k H.I.D.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/237/dsc016898be.jpg

[You See]

Now all he needs is some HID spots! ...that'll get them possums!! /haz

[Gly]

So dipped main beams = standard head lights = H7? correct?

I know I probably sound like a complete idiot but I just wanna make sure. :)


yes thats correct

[scc]

High and low beams fitted with 8000k H.I.D.


Is it worth having the high beams done given their actual usage?

scc

[OSiRiS]

Is it worth having the high beams done given their actual usage?

scc

Nope. The owner of that car just had too much money to spend ;)