vr4 big power

[kevin ap motors]

The time had come to remove the engine and convert over to a manual

all out and striped down, engine striped,and out to the enginering company for work

all auto conroles out and manual ones in

all new parts on the way

will post up some pics soon
will keep you all informed all the best kev

[michaeli]

FANTASTIC!!!

You may start the majority of slush box people thinking about getting a decent gearbox.. LOL /grr

Seriously though, what work is being done to the engine and what gearbox are you fitting?

Regards,

Mike

[Kieran]

Blimey..... What's in store for LJM now then?

I look forward to seeing the results.... :inquisiti :thumbsup:

[Kieran]

You may start the majority of slush box people thinking about getting a decent gearbox...

/HijackOkay, I'll bite....

Nah, mine came from the factory with one - the Japanese owner ticked the 'Don't fit stone-age gearbox' option! /pan /grr

:joker:

[kevin ap motors]

The engine is having the followig
forge pistons
steel rods
Arp bolts
ported and polished heads
poss uprated cams wating to see what can be done
2 new turbos poss td04 but this is stiil to be decided
custom manafolds
custom downpipes
custom intercoller pipes
custom twin air filters with battery in boot
exedy stage 4 twin plate clutch and flywheel
red silicon hoses on all vac,cooling and turbo pipes
standard gearbox, different internals at a later date
pos e-manage ultimate or unichip Qplus [we are launching this very soon]
and a few other mods

[kevin ap motors]

also does any one have the tec data on the vr4 need to knoe the right data for the rebuid

[zentac]

Where are you getting your rods and pistons made up? What spec cams are you going for?

[Spirit]

Kev

Good luck with your plans mate, I know you have been planning this for sometime now.

Hope it all comes together smoothly.................then maybe, just maybe /Hmmm

[michaeli]

The engine is having the followig
forge pistons
steel rods
Arp bolts
ported and polished heads
poss uprated cams wating to see what can be done
2 new turbos poss td04 but this is stiil to be decided
custom manafolds
custom downpipes
custom intercoller pipes
custom twin air filters with battery in boot
exedy stage 4 twin plate clutch and flywheel
red silicon hoses on all vac,cooling and turbo pipes
standard gearbox, different internals at a later date
pos e-manage ultimate or unichip Qplus [we are launching this very soon]
and a few other mods

Blimey, that's quite a list....

who ever is doing the rebuild, would you ask them if they want another one and tell me how much please? Seriously... :thumbsup:

Mike

[Spirit]

Kev will do most of it himself.

[michaeli]

Kev will do most of it himself.

Wow, impressive...

Kev, do you want another VR4 to play with?? Let me know how much... :thumbsup:

I'm not made of money, so don't go :rolleyes4

[michaeli]

/HijackOkay, I'll bite....

Nah, mine came from the factory with one - the Japanese owner ticked the 'Don't fit stone-age gearbox' option! /pan /grr

:joker:

That's funny 'cos I found something very similar... it was a tick list..

Question Answer
1) Do you suffer from lepracy? No
2) Do you have a left arm? Yes
3) Do you have a left leg? Yes
4) Do you like to drive a car rather
than the car drive you? Yes
5) Are you lazy? No
6) Is your wife going to drive it? No

Results: Manual VR4

[Spirit]

You will tell from his username, that Kev works for AP Motors (based in Plymouth). He gets the benefit of his/their experience and knowledge, use of their equipment etc - but of course they are a business therefore you will pay for the work on this basis and not a private person.......of course I'm sure AP will give you a bit of discount though :thumbsup:

[michaeli]

I wouldn't expect him to do it for cost or near cost, but can't afford £20K for example...

Kev, you have a PM....

[Kieran]

That's funny 'cos I found something very similar... it was a tick list..


/haz

On a more revelant point, I think this has huge potential for us UK peeps, as this will be the 1st time a Galant or Legnum VR-4 owner over here has fiddled with the internals on this scale (or rather, openly tell us that they have and provide details, you know who you are /pan )

Kev..... Ever considered becoming a club member? ;) :deal2:

[michaeli]

Kev..... Ever considered becoming a club member? ;) :deal2:

If he agrees to do my internals, I'll pay for him to become a member :thumbsup:

[bradc]

Kieran, who are you referring to there?

Kev, it does sound like you've got a very good project there, please keep us updated with pictures as much as possible. Hopefully we'll see 500hp from you!

[Kieran]

Kieran, who are you referring to there?

There's one or two - wasn't aimed at any one singe person. :scholar:

[ghanda]

Impressive list - reminds me of my toy: But get close to 220 bhp per litre and 300+bhp/tonne and my toy may get worried (;))

[bradc]

That is 550hp, sounds about right to me. :D EVO's can easily have 400hp out of them and be easily street driveable, and 450hp is possible too.

[Louis]

I'm interested in where the pistons and rods, are coming from?, also what rings are you going to use?

[WireD]

checkin up on this thread regularly, i love it! :D

[kevin ap motors]

The turbos i am using are a very high capacity td04 with lots of internel work inside should be god for over 650bhp+
Dont know if transmisson is going to stand up to high power though going to try and if it blows up go fo somthing else

will post up some picts this weekend at work at the mo

[bradc]

why didn't you go with ball bearing gt25r or gt28r?

[kevin ap motors]

The money factor,the room and i have maped 2 cars with similar turbos and on stand engine


550cc injectors
walbro fuel pump
pressure regulator
map ecu
only 16 psi boost
the cars made 450bhp

going on this kind of increase i decided to go for theses turbos but bigger spec

[Wodjno]

Kevin.. If you are going for the TD04's, does that mean you are going to have modified manifolds to allow a direct fit for the TD04's.. Will these be available to all.. Are your TD04's based on the TD04HL's.. :2thumbsup

Cheers

WODJ

[pezza]

Kevin.. If you are going for the TD04's, does that mean you are going to have modified manifolds to allow a direct fit for the TD04's.. Will these be available to all.. Are your TD04's based on the TD04HL's.. :2thumbsup

Cheers

WODJ

How much bigger in dimensions are the TD04s. Apart from manifolds, what other piping is required?
WHat ECU changes are likely must be more than just fuelling? :thinking:

Kevin have all those internals been done yet?

[Nick Mann]

Kevin.. If you are going for the TD04's, does that mean you are going to have modified manifolds to allow a direct fit for the TD04's.. Will these be available to all.. Are your TD04's based on the TD04HL's.. :2thumbsup

Cheers

WODJ

TD04 manifolds for the VR4 will be a top-selling product!! /yes

[Wodjno]

TD04 manifolds for the VR4 will be a top-selling product!! /yes

Just a Tad .. !! I should have done it a long time ago /Grrr /pan

[bernmc]

Just a Tad .. !! I should have done it a long time ago

Nothing holding you back now...

[Wodjno]

If Kevin from A.P. is going to have them made:thinking: there would be no point in me doing it aswell Bern :speechles
Think you need to take some more pills and lay back and watch those Pretty coloured lights some more. :happy:

[bradc]

you would need manifolds as well as the downpipes after the turbos and I assume the oil lines and things like that would need to be changed as well. You would need to do the whole kit as one big bundle

[Wodjno]

If Kevin is going down the TD04 route, i would put money on all of this being done.
:happy: It makes absolutely excellent business sense to me !!:2thumbsup

[Spirit]

Saw the car tonight........no engine, no interior (not even carpets).....hate to think what Shaz would have said as she loved that car to bits /help

But, the manual box was in :2thumbsup

[richy rich]

cool is it going to be a pur racing car.:2thumbsup

[zentac]

Any updates Kev? and which pistons/rods you using?

[Smokinmasta2]

Manifolds, TD04's, WE NEED BOTH please!!!!

[Wodjno]

Manifolds, TD04's, WE NEED BOTH please!!!!

I got Manifolds :2thumbsup

And i got TD04's :2thumbsup

But they don't fit together /Grrr

[ritch_w]

This is getting quite exciting, its even being discussed on the FTO OC :2thumbsup :afro:

[ANTHONY]

Kev..... Ever considered becoming a club member? ;) :deal2:

i see you are now kev .......wecome mate

[Kieran]

This is getting quite exciting, its even being discussed on the FTO OC :2thumbsup :afro:

Link?:inquisiti

[Wodjno]

Link?:inquisiti#


http://www.ftooc.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=49428&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=vr4&start=0
:inquisiti

[valmes]

The engine is having the followig
forge pistons
steel rods
Arp bolts
ported and polished heads
poss uprated cams wating to see what can be done
2 new turbos poss td04 but this is stiil to be decided
custom manafolds
custom downpipes
custom intercoller pipes
custom twin air filters with battery in boot
exedy stage 4 twin plate clutch and flywheel
red silicon hoses on all vac,cooling and turbo pipes
standard gearbox, different internals at a later date
pos e-manage ultimate or unichip Qplus [we are launching this very soon]
and a few other mods

Forged pistons, steel rods, arp bolts... are those really necessary?
Cams? You think stock cams will limit your quest for big power? How much exactly are you aiming for?
If you going to make new manifolds why stick with TD04 turbos?

[Kieran]

BUMP!!!


Come on Kev, let's have an update!

[soapy1978]

i wish to see some pics of how it all coming along

[Spirit]

When I saw Kev earlier in the week he was not a happy bunny - engine and turbos are still not back and he was hoping to have the car running at the end of March ! He is a little p*ssed off with it all at the moment I think, so not surprised he has not been on here with updates. Basically, there are none - just watch this space.

[kevin ap motors]

At last the pistons have turned up the are spanking:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
they are JE forge pistons
The cylinder block was being bored out while i was down looking at them,the crankshaft has been heat treated and the cams have been re profiled
Soon it will be time to try and put it all back togather i am hoping to have it up and runing very soon, as i am grting very impaitiont.

I have recived my evo 7 seats so they will go in this weekend

I am hoping not to miss japshow as i missed japfeast

[zentac]

Ah JE pistons, Ive was quoted 580+vat for them, but now they have the patern I may be able to get them cheaper ;)

[Spirit]

Great news Kev, will try and pop down soon.......need the Honda MOT'ing anyhow /help

[BraindG]

/GJ - Can't wait to see this in action!...

[Spirit]

Saw Kev today and he's hopeful the car will be put back together by the end of this month.

I would say fingers crossed, but Kev suffered an injury Monday and nearly had one of his middle fingers chopped off........was down to the bone and hanging apparantly. Now all bandaged up, poor thing.

[Kieran]

OUCH!!! What heppened?

[Spirit]

Cooling fan......../help

[Paul Beazer]

:sad3: :sick2: :sick2:

Hope your finger heals up ok kevin!

[kevin ap motors]

all heald up:2thumbsup

I am hoping to get it up and runing by the end of the mounth been working on the car for the last 2 nights till 3 am in the morming thats dedication for you.
engine is due back to me on friday and than the fun can begine trying to remember where all the bits go.

decided to go standalone managment link g2 should do the job:evilgrin:

will post some pics up when spirt shows me how /help

snack time over will post up later kevin

[zentac]

seems to be taking a hell of a long time kev, hope its worth it in the end.

[Spirit]

Kev, will pop down as soon as I can and show you :2thumbsup