Changing the rear suspension [Archive]

Kieran

05-03-2006, 12:10 PM

OMG !!!! /help
that is so low, I cant get the jack out !! /pan

So you remembered to set the ride height using the coilover spanners before you installed them, right?!/pan

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 12:15 PM

OMG !!!! /help
that is so low, I cant get the jack out !! /pan

What !! Lower than it was already.. ??? You making a Snow Plough /pan

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 12:27 PM

you know how low my car was before ??
well now it looks like the front is on stilts !! /help [ batteries have run out, so no pics 'till later [

All done now ! 1 hour . :scholar: :scholar:

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 12:42 PM

So it's Higher.. :thinking: Just confused that you got the Jack under, but couldn't get it out .. 1 hr top jop.. Look forward to the Pics.. :2thumbsup Feckin Batteries /pan

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 12:44 PM

I could get the jack under..just.. to take the old suspension off, but could not get it back out with the lower coilovers fitted !! I had to resort to the scissor jack. /help

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 12:48 PM

So you remembered to set the ride height using the coilover spanners before you installed them, right?!/pan

err ?? nope ! :book: :embarasse :embarasse /duh
As they came off Mo's car, I assumed they would be ok ?

spanners ?? wot spanners ? /help

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 12:58 PM

SLAMMED !!

now that is a bit low !!

HELP !! how do you adjust them without taking 'em off ?? :book:

I cant get my car off the drive !!

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 01:01 PM

/duh /duh /duh :uhoh2: :uhoh2: :uhoh2: :vogel: :vogel: :vulcan: :vulcan: :vulcan: :o :o /dunce /dunce /dunce /JawDroppi /JawDroppi :lipsrseal :lipsrseal /lol /lol /lol /lol /lol

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 01:03 PM

Sorry if my words of WISDOM haven't helped.. /pan

Better start that StopWatch going again Derek :happy:

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 01:04 PM

I'm a numpty arn't I !! :speechles /pan /pan

but can they be adjusted in situ ?? :book:

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 01:05 PM

Just Jack it back up.. You should be able to adjust them.. If you got the Spanners :inquisiti

Just take the weight off them..

BraindG

05-03-2006, 01:09 PM

lol.. holy crap derek... you would never get that car on my drive either!.. get em sorted mate :)

richy rich

05-03-2006, 01:14 PM

d more haste less speed/pan /pan /pan /pan /pan /pan

richy rich

05-03-2006, 01:20 PM

d by the looks of them you need to jack back up remove wheal

then use a spanner/ stillsons (not a good idea as it will damage them)
on the top nut and wind them up
this is only an educated guess

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 02:34 PM

They can be adjusted in situ.
removed wheel, & bottom 17mm bolt. On the top chrome locking nut, there's an allen key. loosen that, & the whole shocker can be wound down.

I've done both sides..down to max/min ?? & it still looks too low ? /help

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 02:41 PM

Piccys.. Batteries must be recharged by now :happy:

richy rich

05-03-2006, 02:43 PM

do you not have a camera on your phone d

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 02:48 PM

this is with the coilovers adjusted to max height !!
something..... probably the tyres are still catching !

richy rich

05-03-2006, 02:52 PM

d is because you have a leggy and mo has a galant

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 02:57 PM

this is with the coilovers adjusted to max height !!
something..... probably the tyres are still catching !

Not trying say your STUPID or Owt... :inquisiti But are you sure they are adjusted the right way.. It don't look any higher, if anything the same or lower..

With coilovers isn't up down and down up.. :thinking:

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 02:58 PM

d is because you have a leggy and mo has a galant

shouldn't be a prob ??

sod it............... I'm going to the pub !! /Grrr /Grrr :5shots:

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 04:47 PM

Not trying say your STUPID or Owt... :inquisiti :

Glenn. they are adjusted to the max.................. almost. :inquisiti I daren't go any further or I'll run out of thread !! /help
I'm not convinced these coilovers are suited to the legnum ? :thinking:

Wodjno

05-03-2006, 05:24 PM

Glenn. they are adjusted to the max.................. almost. :inquisiti I daren't go any further or I'll run out of thread !! /help
I'm not convinced these coilovers are suited to the legnum ? :thinking:

Where they from ? Or have i missed a thread ??

Is it the spring rate ? Are they to soft.. Can you use different springs.. Originals or summat else you got lying around ??

richy rich

05-03-2006, 05:26 PM

glen they are from mo's white vr4 i think

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 05:27 PM

Where they from ? Or have i missed a thread ??

i was led to believe they were from Mo's galant. so theoretically a straight swap for mine. now I'm not so sure ? :thinking: :thinking:

Kieran

05-03-2006, 05:29 PM

Derek - I've just had a thought, thinking back to when we did the suspension on Hordak....

I notice in another thread you said you've only done the rears... That might be the problem. You see, when we did my V6, we did the fronts first. and when we'd done them, it sat about an inch lower than it should have - What was happening was that the standard rears were 'pushing' up the back of the car and tilting the front further down.

As soon as we changed the rears, the nose of the car lifted again - which was good because we could then get the jack out!:inquisiti

richy rich

05-03-2006, 05:32 PM

good point k

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 05:39 PM

could be ??

but I dont think the front is as high as to allow the rear to level it up ?? :thinking:

does that make sense ?? :5shots: /help

richy rich

05-03-2006, 05:40 PM

yes that does make sense

BraindG

05-03-2006, 06:08 PM

youll never get on my drive that low Derek..

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 06:11 PM

youll never get on my drive that low Derek..

I cant even get off my fcukin' drive !! /help
see you in scumchester tomorrow !! ........... NOT !! :inquisiti

SGHOM

05-03-2006, 06:13 PM

I might take the beemer !! :pimp2: :pimp2:

Rally205

05-03-2006, 07:06 PM

Derek,

Have they got a seperate height and pre-load adjustment? It looks to me like you are winding up the pre-load and not the height.

VR4 MAD

05-03-2006, 10:48 PM

Derek,

Have they got a seperate height and pre-load adjustment? It looks to me like you are winding up the pre-load and not the height.

My thoughts exactly. There should be appreciable clearance increase if you've used the full length of the height adjustment.

Usually the adjusted range is slightly larger for the front compared to the rear. For example - the Tein HA adjustment range is - 70mm front and 45mm rear.

If yours are in the same order of adjustment range, you should see at least 40mm change in height.

If you have another adjusting ring below the two at the base of the spring then that's the one to adjust the height with. If there isn't any other adjusting rings below the two at the base of the spring then height is adjusted by changing the spring preload (ie squeezing the spring). Pretty sure that's the way of it...... best check with Mo I reckon.

Hope that helps

Louis

05-03-2006, 10:56 PM

Hi,
You should be adjusting the whole bottom part of the shock (the part with the 17mm hole that bolts at the bottom), and the locking ring.
see here they should be the same as the D2

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13851

good luck

SGHOM

07-03-2006, 09:39 PM

weather permitting...... they will be fitted tomorrow night.
Still not got a 'key' to pre-tension the springs, & I suppose it's a bit of guesswork at 1st , setting the ride height etc. /help
If it goes pear shaped I'll try kicking 'em............ usually works !! :inquisiti /Grrr

richy rich

11-03-2006, 11:27 PM

did you get this sorted d

SGHOM

11-03-2006, 11:39 PM

did you get this sorted d

yep Rich.. :2thumbsup sort of ??

I changed it this morning, & now I've the correct......... err........ slightly better ride height. :inquisiti

I still think the spring rate is too harsh, but It's a bit of guess work to get it right.

Has anyone got any measurements of the best distance from the top to the bottom of the spring ?? I know D2's or Daiyama's may be different ?? :book:

richy rich

11-03-2006, 11:42 PM

so this is a fast change then d

is it a week and counting :zzz: :zzz:

SGHOM

11-03-2006, 11:43 PM

took me 30 mins to adjust. then it's out on the road to test........... & then back to work :thinking: /Grrr /Grrr

richy rich

11-03-2006, 11:44 PM

still 6 days tho

SGHOM

11-03-2006, 11:46 PM

still 6 days tho

gimme a break man !! /help /pan /pan

some of us have to work/drink for a living !! :5shots:

richy rich

11-03-2006, 11:51 PM

/haz /haz

and you should not be drinking/pan /pan /pan

SGHOM

11-03-2006, 11:57 PM

I really....... REALLY.. need to get the fronts sorted ASAP. /help
I'll give Mo a call & get my fronts swapped with his next week. only then can I get it set up correctly.
If I dont, then It's goodbye RT3 :inquisiti :thinking:

richy rich

12-03-2006, 12:10 AM

get your finger out then d

Kieran

12-03-2006, 12:55 AM

Yeah, sort it out, D!!

Louis

12-03-2006, 06:10 PM

Hi Derek,
My D2 settings are on the link below, hope all works out, If the suspension is set up too harsh the car will skip over bumps on corners (causing you to loose contact with the tarmac), good luck.

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13851

bradc

12-03-2006, 07:40 PM

I think it looks just right in the last picture ;) I have made my Legnum look like that in the past with a 42" Plasma (and the box, packaging etc) in the back as well as 4 desktop computers :D

SGHOM

13-03-2006, 12:15 AM

SGHOM

13-03-2006, 08:52 PM

Ok... just 'softened' the suspension somewhat !!
the spring rate was set for a go-cart or something ! /Grrr I can call at the dentists now to have my fillings put back. /pan /pan

Oh for a bl00dy garage.

richy rich

13-03-2006, 09:12 PM

what about ride hight

SGHOM

13-03-2006, 11:36 PM

what about ride hight

ride height is slightly lower now I've 'released' the spring tension. I'll take a look in the morning when the ride has settled down. may need to lift it another 5mm or so.

richy rich

14-03-2006, 07:00 PM

ok mate lets see some pics

SGHOM

14-03-2006, 10:00 PM

no pics as yet Rich, but on my 'enforced' day off today, /Grrr /pan I managed to raise the rear suspension to a more user friendly height. It may have to be adjusted again when I get the fronts done... hopefully this coming W/E.

I also changed the oil & flushed engine. [ Mobil 1 ] :thinking: sorry amsoil, will order yours when I've time.

And.... I also put my old exhaust back on, so now I should be below 98db, ready for the ring !! :2thumbsup

A big thanx to Chris [ Millhouses motor company ] for the use of his excellent facilities whilst he wasn't looking !! :happy: :happy: