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Spirit
21-03-2006, 10:42 AM
But, they have been replaced by FK452's :2thumbsup

Lots of info on them HERE (http://www.fk452.com/index.html)

Just on the hunt for some tyres now for RT3. Always been an Eagle GSD3 man, but have considered these before........so may give them a go.

You See
21-03-2006, 10:47 AM
Falken tyres are very good....tho are slightly more expensive than GSD3, probably one of the reasons why GSD3's are more popular.

Nick Mann
21-03-2006, 10:48 AM
They are cheaper over here!

Spirit
21-03-2006, 10:54 AM
Indeed they are, Nick is spot on.

Just called my normal supplier and:

Goodyear F1s = £82.77 (fitted) - bobby bargain price
Falken FK452's = £69.93 (fitted)

Hmmm, which to go for ?

You See
21-03-2006, 10:59 AM
Lucky son of a guns! ...hardly anyone over here have deals with Falkens, but you see advertisements for GSD3's quite often.
Personally, I'd prefer the FK452's...they seem to be more of a all round tyre, where the GSD3's are more for wet conditions.
I'm sure someone's gonna disagree with me here! /Hissy

Spirit
21-03-2006, 11:02 AM
Best prices so far for FK452s:

My supplier - £69.93 (price includes fitting)

Mytyres.co.uk - £69.60 (supply only)

Falkentyres.co.uk - £63.34 (supply only)

Looks like my guys are damn competitive :2thumbsup

pezza
21-03-2006, 11:06 AM
Thats a damned good price! I'd go with the falkens too...esp if not tried before.... They may last one lap or two round the ring tho :thinking:

g6acb
21-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Got my Falkens from www.ctyres.co.uk - based in Bradford near one of the places I work at - they offer free delivery via the web but you can get them fitted for the same price.

The place ALWAYS has a queue of taxi drivers outside waiting for a pit stop so you know that its gonna be cheap!!! (about £25 a corner cheaper than Goodyear)

They don't list the new 452 though.......

Spirit
21-03-2006, 11:10 AM
They may last one lap or two round the ring tho :thinking:

Well, there's a tale. Believe it or not.......I normally sh*g a set of F1's in 30mins at Castle Combe in the dry.......but at RT2 I saw absolutely no tyre wear whatsoever !

bradc
21-03-2006, 11:22 AM
They look quite nice, I'm considering the Toyo T1R's for my next tyres as another option too.

Qwertyco
21-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Had Falkens on Big Lex last time (225/55-16), very good, but changed to Kumho's with the new Enkei's.

Kumho's surprisingly much better in wet and dry, (225/55-16 front, 245/50-16 rear) and lasting much longer than Falkens. And Cheaper ! ! !

(Used Toyo Proxies once, very sticky, Went from New to Canvas in 8k miles!)

Tried Nankangs (because they were all I could get in a hurry!) once.
Threw them away after 10k, with tread like new. They gripped like wet leaves.

HJM
21-03-2006, 02:05 PM
As you know Pete - I swear by the FK451's and they obviously last longer than the Goodyears, although I suspect without the ultimate grip (softer compound and all that) :2thumbsup

H

bradc
21-03-2006, 08:26 PM
Qwertyco, which Kumho's did you change to?

Qwertyco
22-03-2006, 02:36 PM
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712

I'm well impressed with them, the only thing I've tried which can provide a decent bit of traction.
The Big Lex tends to have trouble connecting the engine to the ground.
Nicely predictable in the wet, very good in the dry, and seem to be lasting well. 10k now and still plenty rubber left.
I got them because of the extremely limited choice in 245/50-16 size. I'd definatly use them again.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b107s293p2333&tbv=KUMHO_TYRES_/_CAR_/_KUMHO_712_-_ECSTA_-_KUMHO_SUPRA_712_-_225/55R16_95W_Cheap_Tyres_Discount_Tyres_Online_Tyres_ Direct_Tyres_Mailorder_R16\_-_225/55/16,_225/55_R_16

and your friends at Camskill seem to sell them ! :2thumbsup
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m4b0s576p2331&z=1881

Qwertyco
22-03-2006, 02:40 PM
oops, sorry Bradc, just spotted where you are !

Camskill probably isn't very convienient for you .

bradc
22-03-2006, 08:24 PM
haha, no they aren't :)

I'm trying to locate good tyres that are available in 235/45/17 and 265/40/17, and the Ecsta Supra 712's seem to come up quite a bit, as well as the Proxes T1R and now the FK452's

bradc
16-05-2006, 09:47 AM
Pete, sorry if I missed it, but what did you think of the FK452's in the end?

Spirit
16-05-2006, 09:17 PM
Well, tbh I will be returning to F1's.

Two reasons - the road noise is far less with them and they gave me more confidence in the damp weather on track.

Not going to slate the Falken's, I just think that I have had F1's for so long and I know exactly how the car reacts with them that probably any other tyre just wont measure up in my mind.

Wodjno
16-05-2006, 09:32 PM
Well, tbh I will be returning to F1's.

Two reasons - the road noise is far less with them and they gave me more confidence in the damp weather on track.

Not going to slate the Falken's, I just think that I have had F1's for so long and I know exactly how the car reacts with them that probably any other tyre just wont measure up in my mind.

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thecustomer
12-06-2006, 12:44 PM
I've had FK 512s on, and they've been ok (came with the car), but wearing on the edges (I reckon the alignment's off)... & then there's the pin/nail on one of the rears, that's close to the edge, and won't come out

So tomorrow I'm fitting 452s - should be quieter & with more grip.
(If I were going on a track & looking for ultimate grip, I'd probably have bounced the other way & gone with Goodyear GSD3s)

First feedback on Falken 452 (http://www.tyretest.com/pkw_sommerreifen/falken_ohtsu/fk_452/index.html) on the german consumer site looks promising - but just from 3500kms & 4 drivers.

I found them at FalkenTyres for £50 a corner (http://www.falkentyres.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=289&PT_ID=51&numPageStartPosition=8&strShowBackLink=n)

Will

Nick Mann
12-06-2006, 01:27 PM
Never seen the Falken tyres site before - good find!! :2thumbsup £20 delivery for four tyres, so 235/45/17 94W FK451's are £240 for four at my door! Sounds good to me!

KiwiTT
12-06-2006, 09:42 PM
... I just think that I have had F1's for so long and I know exactly how the car reacts with them that probably any other tyre just wont measure up in my mind.Well Done. :scholar: If you are like me, you know how the car feels. i.e. you are one with the car. If you change something as important as your tyres, you may need to adjust your driving style.

Spirit
12-06-2006, 11:45 PM
Indeed, and I am still set on putting F1's back on, probably after RT4

thecustomer
23-06-2006, 07:47 AM
& jolly nice they are too

aside from being round, black & with a good-looking/ 'means business' kind of tread pattern, much quiter than the 512s that were on before. The noise that does get through is notably softer, so its less intrusive.

+ of course it now goes round corners - though it's hardly fair to compare brand new 452s with the 'worn at the edges to the end of their life' 512s.

£280, fitted & alignment checked, by my trusted local shop.

Next up, ATF flush & amsoil to try to cure the occasional box of neutrals I get when (not) pulling away from junctions. Current ATF is mud-coloured

Will

Nick Mann
23-06-2006, 09:45 AM
:2thumbsup

calum
23-06-2006, 11:47 PM
I've never tried Falkens but have had GSD3s, Kumho Ecsta 712s (came with the car) and michelin pilot sport 2s.

The michelin pilot sport 2s are by far and away better in the wet or dry to any other tyre I've ever driven a car with. I'm sure there's better out there but I've yet to try them. Turn in is good, ride is good, wear is good and grip is good and predictable. High speed cornering is incredibly stable (wet or dry).

They make the GSD3s seem like tyres for kids toys (and I like the GSD3s - got them on both of my celica GT4s). I got all 4 for about £400 from Costco when they were doing a 20% off or £100 cashback deal or similar. Edited to say: The tyres are 225/40 x 18.

With performance like this it's going to take something really special to make me ever buy anything different from now on.

Love them.

Cheers,

Calum