Bulk buy - Clutches

[You See]

Following the recent threads of advice/queries/etc for new clutches, the idea arose upon a bulk buy for clutches.
For those who have MAN-ual gearboxes and not GIRL-tronics, please use the above poll to vote which type you'll be after...this will help us gather prices.
The uprated clutches will probably be of the Exedy/Daikin type, however please feel free to post your recommendations below.
If the price is right, I may also be keen.

[mpau009]

:party3: 'tard question no.1:

What is the difference between heavy duty and extra heavy duty clutches? in terms of driving around in auckland.. and in terms of probable price?

:party3: no. 2
Also what happens with the flywheel? clean up the existing one, or replacement matched to the new clutch?
im starting to get more and more shuddering, so i have a bad feeling it may need looking at at the same time:thinking:

[Axeboy]

I know shipping will be an issue, but including uk members might be worth considering as manuals are reasonably rare...


Id be interested :)

[You See]

1) Heavy Duty provide more 'drivability' ...sharper than factory and can withstand high pressures which come from power mods. Extra Heavy Duty (Twin Plate) is similar to the above but is more On/Off...more for if you're exceeding 500HP...tends to be quiet abit louder than factory.
Both of these are best if you have modded your car.

2) Your existing flywheel can be machined or if you like we can find options for a lightened version.

Hope this helps...I'm sure others may like to add their thoughts. :)

[mpau009]

1) Heavy Duty provide more 'drivability' ...sharper than factory and can withstand high pressures which come from power mods. Extra Heavy Duty (Twin Plate) is similar to the above but is more On/Off...more for if you're exceeding 500HP...tends to be quiet abit louder than factory.
Both of these are best if you have modded your car.

2) Your existing flywheel can be machined or if you like we can find options for a lightened version.

Hope this helps...I'm sure others may like to add their thoughts. :)

Cheers for that, much as i would like to have 500hp+, i'll vote for regular heavy duty:happy:

[You See]

If you'd like, I've currently have a H.D...feel free to take mine for a spin to see if you like the feel. :)

[Axeboy]

If you include us :p

Id be interested in the Heavy Duty & a Light fly

[You See]

Of course we'll include you poms :P ...as long as you're willing to pay the freight costs.

[Axeboy]

Of course we'll include you poms :P ...as long as you're willing to pay the freight costs.


:iloveyou:

[bradc]

If I do convert mine to a manual I want a clutch that engages as long and as slow as a normal one. I don't mind if you need to use a lot of muscle to move it, I just don't want something that is on/off. I do need something that will handle a gt25r upgrade

[Nutter_John]

Hi Guys

Just had my Clutch and flywheel replaced by WRD .

It was an uprated clutch which is good for 370ft/lb , this is made by helix autosport and cost £590 for the release bearing , the pressure plate and a clutch

The flywheel was a custom made lightend one (about 2.1 kilos less than stock ) , this should make the engine rev more freely - this was around £360 ish

if you search for rakeway you will see a pciture of flywheel

cheers John

[maori_by_nature]

i'll get on2 jono's mate about the clutch he was gonna get me and i'll get back 2 you

[jaimz]

I put a 5-finger button clutch in my last car, and it was the worst thing I ever did. It was a pig to drive ever since.
Was a 4WD turbo by the way, so I'd expect the effect to be about the same in the VR-4... I guess...
So, I've voted for the OEM option in the poll, thereby my adding to my 'stuffy old fart' status :2thumbsup

[richy rich]

Hi Guys

Just had my Clutch and flywheel replaced by WRD .

It was an uprated clutch which is good for 370ft/lb , this is made by helix autosport and cost £590 for the release bearing , the pressure plate and a clutch

The flywheel was a custom made lightend one (about 2.1 kilos less than stock ) , this should make the engine rev more freely - this was around £360 ish

if you search for rakeway you will see a pciture of flywheel

cheers John
i can get the flywheels down to a much better price for a group bye looking in the region of £230.

[Munta]

im keen for factory oem clutch but if the heavy duty clutch going to cost about the same price i will go for that. and will get the flywheel machined to match.

[Subaru ETA]

i have voteed for heavy duty coz i got to drive the north western every morning to the shore!
does anyone know of a good place to get them fitted? im a mechanic myself but just dont have the time and a work mate of mine with a legnum said he would pay someone to do it if he had to do it again!

[Xeroid]

For those who have MAN-ual gearboxes and not GIRL-tronics, please use

I prefer to think of them as TIT-tronics meself .....:evilgrin:

[Munta]

anything happing with these clutches?

[You See]

Ok, by viewing the poll results we have 2xOEM and 8xUprated....is everyone who voted still keen? ..no point negotiating prices then have everyone back out.
Please confirm and I'll get some prices on the way.

[mpau009]

Ok, by viewing the poll results we have 2xOEM and 8xUprated....is everyone who voted still keen? ..no point negotiating prices then have everyone back out.
Please confirm and I'll get some prices on the way.

Yes, thats why i voted, but it still depends on what, when and how much:elf: ie next week might be a bit soon etc..:p

[jaimz]

Yeah, still keen, although the price will be the deciding factor :curtain:

[Subaru ETA]

im keen price dependent. and does anyone know where to get it them fitted?

[You See]

Local Mitsi dealer will do the install for just under $400 incl. fluids, labour, etc

[Muppsy]

I'd be keen for an HD, and am looking at Exedy as I'm getting the conversion completed by the end of October.

Dunno if I'll be on the right time scale for this, but count me in for about a month.

[mpau009]

Local Mitsi dealer will do the install for just under $400 incl. fluids, labour, etc

You See, was that with the CVR4 members discount? cause that thing saves a fortune on some jobs./Devil5

[You See]

Nah, without the discount....Auckland Motors is a lil' out of my way. :(

[agilroy]

im a mechanic myself but just dont have the time and a work mate of mine with a legnum said he would pay someone to do it if he had to do it again!

haha im in the same boat.. im also a mechanic but stuffed if im doing a
clutch on this thing at home in the garage without a hoist!!!! no way...
Im voting for a heavy duty.. pref a exedy organic heavy duty.. not at all keen
on puck style clutches.

[You See]

Ok, here's the hard part.....As I'm starting a semi-new position on Monday, I won't have the time to shop around for prices, do we have any volunteers to do this duty?

[bradc]

Uc, do you mean for the clutch itself or for the install?

[You See]

For the clutch...you keen on taking it upon your shoulders Brad?

[jaimz]

Hey dudes,
What's happening with this idea..? Brad, have you indeed taken this upon your shoulders..? :)

[bradc]

nutthin's on my shoulders :)

[You See]

Still waiting for someone who can help.....anyone??

[Munta]

i found me a clutch for $540, genuine ev05 for my leggy, only guna cost me $540 for the clutch and $400 for labour, but willo b pretty far for all you lot in auckland to get it done where i am

[Subaru ETA]

i found me a clutch for $540, genuine ev05 for my leggy, only guna cost me $540 for the clutch and $400 for labour, but willo b pretty far for all you lot in auckland to get it done where i am

i was talking to a dude at trade parts today and said that an evo clutch will fit but will bind up once the box goes on coz the cover is too big... you can make it fit by grinding slots into the bellhousing. this is how ralliart make them fit

[jaimz]

*shudder*
I got my last clutch from Trade Parts... it's the one store I will NEVER go back to. Bad advice, bad service. :uhoh:

[bradc]

I'll talk to Ralliart at some point and see what they say, I'm looking at a cheapish twin plate clutch that is for sale that was on an Evo 4, they'll know.

[Munta]

yay, getting my new clutch done this week. cant wait!!!

[mpau009]

yay, getting my new clutch done this week. cant wait!!!

Let us know what you got and how it works out, id be keen for a NZ review, i keep looking, and cant seem to figure out why some clutches cost $1800, and some $800. Does yours have a sprung centre? I'll be interested to hear how you get on.

[Munta]

just getting a stock clutch put back in it. so wotever they come out standard with i am getting. getting it for $540 :P labour $400. got a progress report from my mekanik 2day, clutch 1/2 out big job he said only started it this arvo. will have it out 2moro. mite have to get my flywheel machined as well, so xtra cost that will be and a delay of getting my car back they have to sed my flywheel to hamilton to get done got told will cost bout $100 for that to get done. been told it should be done in time for the meet in auckland on the 16th. will let you guys know how it turns out 2moro after clutch is actually out.

[bradc]

I've ordered an exedy heavy duty for my car. I'll ask Gary tomorrow how much it will cost for 5x exedy's and 5x clutch installs, if he can't do them for everyone else I'll ask ralliart.

[You See]

Remember that he is pretty chocca block for the next month or so with the rally, wedding, etc....I'd say he should be able to supply them at a good price but we may need to take it elsewhere for the installs...Mitsi dealers charge around $400.

[Subaru ETA]

my cutch is getting worse so i need one!

[jaimz]

I'm keen just for the clutch at this stage dudes... I don't feel mine's that far gone yet - but it'd be good to have the part for when the time comes (read: once I have enough money!).

(My car failed it's warrant on tyres... so I'm up for those next week... Eagle GSD3s HERE I COME!! :evilgrin:)

[bradc]

Jaimz - do you want a heavy duty one or a boring old mans one?

[jaimz]

C'mon dude... you know me better than that.

/Handbag

I hasten to say though I gotta see what price we can get for a bulk buy first... if it ain't a lot cheaper, I'd rather not spend the money at the moment.

[bradc]

ok, I'll work on it a bit more tomorrow, I didn't really get time today I was very busy

[Munta]

got my new clutch in, loving it heaps as, me last 1 was completely fuked they kept it there for me to see will post pics of the old 1 wot it looked like when it came out... in the process of them replacing my clutch they somehow stuffed up my front right abs sensor so my abs light is now on >_< more trouble to get a wof. went round a couple corners after leaving and then the AYC warning light also came on... would that be because the abs sensor stuffed??

[bradc]

It could be yes. The AYC system uses all of those sensors to do it's work. I'd take it back there and tell them the problems you're having.

[richy rich]

i can get the flywheels down to a much better price for a group bye looking in the region of £230.
do you all want a lightened flywheel as well....

Ive just seen that 15 voted for a new clutch with this i may be able to get the price down to a very good price.......

[Munta]

they stayed behind about an hour after shop closed at no extra cost to me to try and fix the sensor. they couldnt, they are ordering a new 1 for me so hopefully that will fix the problems. ill keep you all informed

[bradc]

Richy, how much for freight for about 10 of them?

[mpau009]

Had the day off today, so iv been on the phone trying to get a deal together, the best iv found so far is $715inc each for clutch, cover, and release bearing. Brand is Exedy, iv asked them about a deal for 10, and theyre going to contact their supplier and email me. Has anyone had any better deals??

Ironically my clutch seems to be getting better lately, but if i can afford it i'm still keen to have a replacement on standby for when i turn the boost back up..

The price above was from these guys:
http://www.nzperformance.co.nz/store/view_product.php?product=EXEDYCLUTCH

They could do a ceramic racing clutch if youre really keen, but the price..:bigcry:

They are in Chch so there will probably be some freight involved, but it will be interesting to see what they can offer.

The other suggestion i had from BNT automotive, was to use a freindly contact at mitsi, to organise a purchase and installation deal, where they could use their large trade discounts to get a good deal (BTW they quoted $1345 PLUS gst for the same setup as NZperf..) But still mihgt be worth a look if someone knows who to talk to.

[jaimz]

Good work Mike. :)

Just to throw something else into the mix (potentially), I had a talk to Terrance at Vehicle Specialists of Vincent St (just across the road from my work). He's gonna talk to his supplier about a group buy of 10 Exedy clutches too.
He machines the flywheel with each installation, which is cool, AAAND he said that if people are keen to buy, but not install now (because of money).. he said he'd hold the parts with your name on them until you're ready to pay for the work to be done.

I'll let you know when he comes back with pricing.

His labour seems to be reasonable though - quoted me $800 (plus parts) for a cambelt job, which is pretty cheap isn't it..?

[mpau009]

[QUOTE=mpau009]Had the day off today, so iv been on the phone trying to get a deal together, the best iv found so far is $715inc each for clutch, cover, and release bearing. Brand is Exedy, iv asked them about a deal for 10, and theyre going to contact their supplier and email me. Has anyone had any better deals??QUOTE]

Okay so that was a bit of a mess around, that clutch is for the earlier generation VR4s evo I-III style the one we need will be $995.. if we get 5:uhoh:

Which is more than i can afford at the moment.. So back to the drawing board (or to work:))

Have to wait and see what Jaimz or Brad can come up with.:elvis:

[richy rich]

Richy, how much for freight for about 10 of them?
will look into it later.

[bradc]

mpau, wait until tomorrow and I'll see what I can do.

[agilroy]

Hey peps, any progress on the clutch buy?

I see someone has said our late model VR-4's runs the same clutch as the old school 89's. Can anyone else confirm that our VR-4's run the same clutches as the 89 shape?? I may have a connection to get cheap exedy kits in this case.

[You See]

Aren't the older VR4's push type and ours are pull type??

[mpau009]

Aren't the older VR4's push type and ours are pull type??

I can't say for sure, but i think thats why the quotes i got were confused, because the guy thought the evo 1,2,3 ones were the same, but i think for the 96+ its the later evo 5+?? clutches (which are more expensive..) I think in the other thread Valmes also mentioned that one of the VR4's over there had a twin plate evo 7 clutch? But yeah i would be good to clear it up once and for all.

[Munta]

hey guys, yay i got my my car fully fixed finally. got the new speed sensor put in 2day free of charge (thank god) got new wof and reg. been ages. cant wait for the meet. see you all there

[jaimz]

Righto, got some word back from Terrance:

He's only got a price for standard clutch at the moment (still waiting to hear back from his supplier on the heavy duty)

Daikin standard clutch: RRP = $840... group buy (10 of) = $700... possibly $670.

So, not definitive yet (I don't even know whether it includes pressure plate and thrust bearing etc)... but it seems kinda promising.

Are Daikin a good clutch brand? - I thought they made heat pumps ;)

[jaimz]

A quick google search suggests that Daikin and Exedy are the same brand... so all good.

[Axeboy]

Im still interested in this guys.

both clutches and flywheels

[jaimz]

Yeah, sorry dudes - I've dropped the ball on this a bit.
Been waiting for the dude to email me with final quotes for the heavy duty clutches... looks like he'll need a bit of chasing.

[agilroy]

Day before new years and my clutch has started to slip, wont be taking
the VR-4 away.. feekkk!!!!! Have to take the Mrs. Forester.. not cool. /Grrr

Any progress on the whole clutch thing? I need to get one now.

If anyone has changed there clutch recently I would be keen to hear
what they brought, how much and where they got it from. Any advice or
input would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers Ant'z

[Axeboy]

Id still be interested in a group buy...

[hi flyer]

Did anything result from this? /help i'm going to need one fairly soon./Grrr

[santa222]

will the vr4 clutch work in my non turbo?