Recommend me a Clutch

[Axeboy]

Hi Gents...

Im needing a new clutch as my current set-up causing slip at high boost.

So.. :book:

Ive read through the various threads before, but wondering where to buy, and what to buy in terms of upgraded clutch?

Might as well get a light flywheel too? :5shots:


Ive seen cheap evo 5/6 kits on ebay which talk the talk, but would they fit?

And can someone confirm the size... are they 230mm?

Cheers all.... :2thumbsup

[Nutter_John]

Hi Axe

I have an helix uprated clutch and a lightened flywheel

The clutch , release bearing and plate cost around 600 ukp and is good for 370lb/ft of torque - not managed to slip yet even at full 1bar boost on the track

The flywheel is about 2.5 kilos lighter than the original meaning more free reving engine , this cost 345 ukp via WRD - i think if there where 2-3 people after them this price would go down as I think mine included the development work by them as well

hope this helps

[Axeboy]

Thanks mate

Where did you get the clutch from?

[BraindG]

I would recommend a SPEC Clutch, i like mine (before i scrubbed it) its very grippy, a bit on and off when driving slow... but when your underway zwooosh off it goes..

I got a SPEC Stage III, with a lighter flywheel. - perhaps OTT, and i did reconsider thinking i should have got a Stage II.. it was abou 900 quid shipped to the UK, but i needed to get a Blanking plate created which cost me about £50.

To give you an example of difference.
at bruntingthorpe, with old clutch i only managed a 6.2
(although i did change gear before hitting 60, and there was no boost - but if you look at the graphs Dave akers put up which compare the auto/manual yu can clearly see a flatline in speed when i change gear, this imo slowed me down somewhat)
at santapod, with new clutch and no boost i done a 5.4 0-60 :shocked:

[Axeboy]

Damn the expensive bits...

[Nutter_John]

Hi Axe the clutch came from helix auto sport , do a search under the transmission section and there is a post by richy rich with all the info in etc

Cheers John

[Axeboy]

Cheers mate

[Axeboy]

Anyone know is an evo 7/8 clutch would fit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evo-7-and-Evo-8-Fast-Road-Clutch_W0QQitemZ260037994035QQihZ016QQcategoryZ104 00QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Might try it at this cheapo price..

[Nick Mann]

Barry fitted an Evo 8 clutch. I assumed you had read the thread, but if not, here it is:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11086

Buy it, fit it, let me know what you think!

[Axeboy]

Yeah read that one a few times, interesting stuff, just not too sure about the spacer required, but im sure ill be ok :)

If asked the seller a price for a light flywheel at the same time/.. worth a punt.

[Axeboy]

Reply from Techniclutch...

"Hi Scott, the lightened flywheel I have is made by Alcon with the detachable centre section (which are no longer made by Alcon) so its quite dear. I need £574 for the clutch and the Alcon flywheel or £474 for the clutch and our own lightened new flywheel (which does not have the detachable centre section).
Regards, John."

[Axeboy]

Looking at MLR though, best avoided.

[Axeboy]

gents..

Ive read through the forums and it looks like all evo clutches would fit, from 1 to 9...


Do you think id need that spacer Brain had made up no metter what?

[Nutter_John]

I think the spacer was for the flywheel not the clutch so if your not doing the fly then you should be ok

[Axeboy]

I was going to do the fly at the same time...

Well, hopefully!

[Axeboy]

What do you guys reckon to this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MITSUBISHI-LANCER-EVO-7-8-EXEDY-CLUTCH-KIT-240MM_W0QQitemZ230034891765QQihZ013QQcategoryZ1040 0QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[psbarham]

hmmmm andy and me tried to fit an exedy evo 8 clutch to his vr3 3/4 and its completely the wrong size

[Axeboy]

Hmmmmmm

So, maybe an Evo 9 Exedy would fit....

[Axeboy]

Can you remember why it didnt fit?

I see that the 7/8 kit is 230mm, but the 5/6 kit is 240mm

[psbarham]

i think it was waaay to big , andy will probably remember all the details better than me

[Nick Mann]

psb - was it a VR4 box though? Is the VR4 clutch the same as the V6 clutch?

[psbarham]

PSB - was it a VR4 box though? Is the VR4 clutch the same as the V6 clutch?
and you moan at others for daft questions/catfight its a V6 box coz its FWD , but if i remember the diameter was to big for the VR4 engine

[Axeboy]

Hmmmmmm!

Further investigations required!

[psbarham]

Hmmmmmm!

Further investigations required!
just double check with andy (the vee) before you go any further

[Nick Mann]

and you moan at others for daft questions/catfight its a V6 box coz its FWD , but if i remember the diameter was to big for the VR4 engine

:p Heh!

My question was because I assumed it was a V6 box, which does not necessarily have the same sized bell housing as the VR4. When you said too big, I thought it could have been too big for the bell housing, but if it was too big for the engine, then I am confused!

As I understand it, the VR4 has a gearbox that is very similar internally to the Evo box, and externally is not much different. The V6 block can't be smaller than the I4 surely? Barry has fitted a clutch which was for an Evo 8. So if the Evo 8 clutch was too big for Mr. Vee's then something doesn't add up somehwere!

[Axeboy]

After some digging, early evos are 230mm and later evos (the 8 & 9) are 240mm.

helix report the vr4 as 240mm also....

http://www.helix-autosport.com/groupn.asp

Ive emailed barry for some more info....

[Axeboy]

Been in touch with Camskill today and they are ordering a standard clutch to investigate further.

They stock all the evo and fto clutches both OEM & uprated and are going to investigate a combination that may work with the vr4. They are also speaking with exedy with regards to developing a kit for us.

:)

[Axeboy]

Camskill now list the OEM clutch kit:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m22b0s1401p8106

[soapy1978]

Camskill now list the OEM clutch kit:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m22b0s1401p8106


don't sepose they looking into the flywhel aswell for you are they i getting closer and closer to eeding ine sorted

darren

[Axeboy]

I'll ask them to list it on the website later today...

[Axeboy]

Flywheel now added to camskills site:


http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m22b0s1401p8122