Icpc & Ice

[n13l pm]

Just a update on my in car pc project, Iv set up the pc in my house with my alpine 4 channel amp to two sets of 16.5cm speakers:

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Im planning to run it in the house for a few weeks before installing it in the car. So far no problems and it works GREAT, the sound is unbelievable. :2thumbsup The setup includes:

LinITX 8" touchscreen lcd
VIA EPIA M10000 Nehemiah Mainboard
1GB Ram
60GB hard disk
leadtek gps receiver
dvd slot loader
M2-ATX power supply
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS

As for the audio itself I got the following:

Apline 4 Channel Amp MRV-F540
JL Audio VR650-CSI Front Components
Kicker R6C Mid Range Rear Speakers
Rockford Fosgate FNX2401X Rear Tweeters

For bass I also have the following (which I made a box for last weekend):

2 x Pioneer 12" Sub TS-W3004SPL Max 3.000w, Nominal 1.000 Watt 4ohm.
2 x Directed Mono Amplifier D2400 running at 2 ohm 800W RMS each.

To power all this I got two yellow top batteries, one in the front and one in the rear, all connected using a spilt charge kit so the alternator only charges one battery at any time.

Iv also taken the inside of the roof off in order to mount my flip down screen, im planning to cut the shape of the screen out of the roof card in order to have the screen flush when closed. Iv got pvc leather look material in black to cover the roof card with so that it will match my black leather seats, sumthing iv havent seen done yet and think will look good!

[n13l pm]

Oh yeah and the front 8" touchscreen and DVD slot loader will be mounted on my console iv made from a old console (Primered up and needs to be sprayed):

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The two holes at the bottom are for two small pc fans to pump air to the lcd monitor and i guess it will look kool.


finally as I was gonna have to spray that I decided to mod the gear surround and add a USB input on it:

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[Wodjno]

Looks Schweeeeet :2thumbsup

I take it Sound and Vision is your thing then /help

[BraindG]

Looking good, and sounding very interesting.. looking forwards (well up actually) to seeing how the roof will look :2thumbsup

[n13l pm]

yeah im looking forward to how the roof looks too, I forgot to say the flip down screen is a 17" widescreen!

[djb160]

17 !!!!! holy crap !!! why not just mount a projector. A 17 drop down sceen is sooo ridiculously cool

[CANDEE]

Looking good dude!! Some of my mates over here have been looking into the car PC side of things but nothing has really happened.. :(

Be careful with those speakers running without an enclosure.. :)

[n13l pm]

Be careful with those speakers running without an enclosure.. :)

Yeah im aware of it mate, i havnt been kaning them. Thanks for the warning anyways :2thumbsup

[CANDEE]

Yeah im aware of it mate, i havnt been kaning them. Thanks for the warning anyways :2thumbsup

No worries dude.. Ive seen/heard of a few people do that.. oops :inquisiti

Let us know how it all goes when you get it in the car.. :2thumbsup

[d i c k i e s]

looks mean bro

[OSiRiS]

**** that puts my setup to shame :(

Good stuff :D

[Wodjno]

KIN AWESOME :2thumbsup

Me next :iloveyou:

[n13l pm]

OSiRiS your set up looks solid aswell mate. I see you went full out on the screens, I was thinking about having a few screens too but I ended up getting a 17" for fairly cheap.

forgot to say; im making my own custom install in the boot. I finished building my box for the subs last weekend and hopefully if it doesnt rain this weekend im looking to create mounts on the box to bolt it down the the car and also make a battery tray. The plan is to finish the install off with the pvc black leather look material, the same stuff im using for my roof.

[n13l pm]

Anyone see any problems with mounting the sub box to the rear shocks? I planning to make some metal mounts which bolt on to one of the three nuts which bolt the shocks down on each side.

[Nick Mann]

Nah - bolt it between both and get a strut brace into the bargain!!

[n13l pm]

yeah that was the idea mate.. to bolt each side of the box to each shock and il probly bolt it to the floor of the boot :happy:

[n13l pm]

Just a update; This weekend me and my cousin hooked up the car PC with all the amps and subs for the first time. Hes building the same setup but for this IS200. As we only had space for setting up one ICPC, we did his, seeing it was his house. The bass from the subs was just unreal! It shook his room hard and most of the house aswell. I think it must of taken about 2mins of loud volume before the neighbours came knocking!! Some pics of the set up:


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[d i c k i e s]

**** that looks mean too! and its not even in the car yet!... hahaha

[n13l pm]

Yeah its looking and sounding really good. We added a EQ with built in line driver last night, which has made a fairly big difference, the bass is a lot cleaner and a lot louder:

ICPC1 (http://img.akainternet.com/niraj/lexus/testbench_09.jpg)
ICPC2 (http://img.akainternet.com/niraj/lexus/testbench_10.jpg)
ICPC3 (http://img.akainternet.com/niraj/lexus/testbench_11.jpg)
ICPC4 (http://img.akainternet.com/niraj/lexus/testbench_12.jpg)
ICPC5 (http://img.akainternet.com/niraj/lexus/testbench_13.jpg)
ICPC6 (http://img.akainternet.com/niraj/lexus/testbench_14.jpg)

[WildCards]

Streuth, what does that lot weigh?

Looks good BTW

[n13l pm]

Yeah all this is going to be quite heavy. I guess about 130kg MAX (if that) which is about the same as having one and a half people at the back.

[d i c k i e s]

alot i bet.

[matsondawson]

Have you considered software yet?
I wrote my own system in Delphi with my old Vr4.

http://www.ivehcs.com/ivehcs/index.php

I put the project on hold when I was doing radio as none of the hardware out there for radio even approaches a reasonable standard yet. i.e. Their seek is rediculously slow, and the drivers are always broken.

If someone finds a radio card that seeks as fast as a normal car tuner, i'll reconsider.

[n13l pm]

Nice easy to use software you have there mate. I was thinking of putting something simple together or finding something off the internet. I was going to think about that more once I get the whole car wired up and ready to install. Your software seems like what I will need, but i need sat nav in addition.

As for a radio card, have you consider a usb digital receiver (http://linitx.com/product_info.php?cPath=79&products_id=1099)? im not sure if its any good in a car but i know they do work quite well on a laptop or in house computer. You will notice they come with a antenna as well.

[matsondawson]

Well mp3.com is the place to be fore software then.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=60

I actually hated all the current systems out there, which is why I wrote my own. The all had terrible user interfaces, and no end of compatability problems. Also I only wrote my system for my use, which is why it only plays video and music off the hdd/cd/flash and doesn't do dvd, cd, or gps. Basically all the buttons are positioned so you don't have to look at the unit to do things like pause and volume.

I have a couple of other friends using it also who want me to expand it and sell it as custom software to thier customers. But truthfully there is a hell of a lot of effort in developing it and I don't have my beautiful vr4 anymore so it doesn't really benefit me.

[matsondawson]

Not to mention I live in smelly old nz where we don't need gps, don't have digital radio, and incar systems such as this are illegal. Only OEM units are allowed.

[n13l pm]

Oh right I didnt know it was illegal for such aftermarket systems!! Thats unbelievable!!

[tesna]

very nice stuffs! I was also planning to implement car pc setup (I already got amps which accepts optical/coaxial digital input) but ended up just with all-in-one HU. All because lack of moulding dashboard skills, and quite hard to find the screens and psu in my area (most online stores blacklisted my country and if not, I'm afraid the package will somehow lost)

I heard from mp3car forums, using analog connection from car pc soundcard will have higher risk on alternator whine/noise on to the audio system.

[n13l pm]

I mounted my rocky tweeters today. I used angle changing mounts. What you lot think?

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And the project continues..

[d i c k i e s]

looks nice, should have like 3 or something there.

[pezza]

Yep saw the car on saturday in its ICE morphin' stage and boy does it sound LOUD but nice and clear. The car looks like its destined for orbit with all that silver sound deadening material inside too. :thinking:

The weight of the install is even enough to show up on the rear of the B12 suspension with no passengers! :speechles

This will be one special 8G when its done. /yes

[n13l pm]

:2thumbsup Glad you liked it pezza.

Wait till its finished mate, remember that was without the rear speakers connected and all run off a ipod!!

[n13l pm]

Finally got around to installing my custom console with 8" touchscreen lcd..

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Im conneting my sound system to the car today.. will keep you updated..

[matsondawson]

Yeh, the vr4 console is just perfect for a touch screen, all fits great.
Only problem is it can be blinding at night.

In the end though, I feel even though a touch screen is good, you really need some buttons for that tactile feedback.

On another note since I can't seem to edit my old post, so my software has moved here.
http://www.mdawson.net/ivehcs/index.php

[White Lightning]

Looks awesome ... good luck with the work today ... :2thumbsup

[n13l pm]

Yeah the screen is really bright at night, but looks great! Cheers for the link to the software again.

I didnt get a chance this weekend to connect my sounds up.. its was too hot to be messing around in a car with black leathers!!

[Nutter_John]

what you need is a program that adjusts the brightness depending on the time , i think i have seen one somewhere will try and dig it out

looking good though , I'm looking at the infill g4 unit and considering going for that as it's an all in one unit

[pezza]

...... its was too hot to be messing around in a car with black leathers!!

Hmmm :thinking: .. I am guessing you mean the seats :inquisiti

The install is looking very smart indeed.. liking that screen.. So doesn't adjusting contrast and brightness of the screen help at night?

You must have miles o cabling in there :speechles

When does the 17inch screen go in?

When do you hope to get it finished by?

Cheers

[n13l pm]

what you need is a program that adjusts the brightness depending on the time , i think i have seen one somewhere will try and dig it out

looking good though , I'm looking at the infill g4 unit and considering going for that as it's an all in one unit

oh really.. I didnt know there was a software out there that does that.


Hmmm :thinking: .. I am guessing you mean the seats :inquisiti

The install is looking very smart indeed.. liking that screen.. So doesn't adjusting contrast and brightness of the screen help at night?

You must have miles o cabling in there :speechles

When does the 17inch screen go in?

When do you hope to get it finished by?

Cheers

Yeah I meant the leather seats!! Its like a damn oven in there some times.

Theres not much left now, I only got the 17" lcd to mount and to line my boot up with leather for the finish effect. Everything else is done mate. In fact the whole system is done really but just need to do the finishings and software side of things. I think it will take no more then 4 weekends, tops. Im off on business for the next weekend and the last weekend of june, otherwise this would been finished end of the month. il keep up updated.

[Brunty]

Finally got around to installing my custom console with 8" touchscreen lcd..

That looks absolutely fantastic.

[n13l pm]

That looks absolutely fantastic.

Cheers mate :). I took the photos before cleaning it so the photos dont really give it justice. oh yeah and I didnt take photos once the gear surround went on.. the USB port on the surround looks kool.

[djb160]

Cheers mate :). I took the photos before cleaning it so the photos dont really give it justice. oh yeah and I didnt take photos once the gear surround went on.. the USB port on the surround looks kool.

Can we have a pic or more of that??

[n13l pm]

Can we have a pic or more of that??

Sorry for the late reply mate.. I over looked this reply. il have more photos this week some time.

[MunkyWrench]

ha hey ive done this in my legnum - ur gonna find the touch screen a little high, since ur hand rests on the gearstick. But I think its unavoidable. Like someone said - u need buttons ideally.

I mounted mine in the rear corner (wagon) right next to the amp in what used to be the mmcs box.

Check out the carPC guys using programmable force feedback rotary encoders - basically the ultimate solution, i think bmw or mercedes have them.

[n13l pm]

The touch screen isnt too bad if your running a software with big buttons, which im in the process of doing. but yeah in the ideal world you want controls where your hands rest.. I was thinking more along the lines of a PC RF remote control, as its RF I can control it from anywhere in and around the car > like this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Griffin-AirClick-USB-Wireless-Remote-for-iTunes-PC-MAC_W0QQitemZ160134035518QQihZ006QQcategoryZ48680Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem) <

[jayjay99]

I saw someone using this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATI-Remote-Wonder-for-PC-Mac_W0QQitemZ220133132295QQihZ012QQcategoryZ51086Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) one in their setup, good if you wanted something with a few more controls, although could be a few too many while driving.

[jayjay99]

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[n13l pm]

I saw someone using this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ATI-Remote-Wonder-for-PC-Mac_W0QQitemZ220133132295QQihZ012QQcategoryZ51086Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) one in their setup, good if you wanted something with a few more controls, although could be a few too many while driving.

Yeah I think thats a bit too many controls. With small simple remote I can mount it some where near where the hand would rest.. :thinking:

[n13l pm]

Heres some photos of my console at night:


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[Beastlee]

I already have one of those ATi Remote Wonders and they are rather large. I love the whole ICPC idea and have always wanted to build one. I have an old Ideq(onboard NVIDIA graphics and Socket A) here that I plan on doing something with but I need to make sure I get the right PSU for it.

[n13l pm]

I already have one of those ATi Remote Wonders and they are rather large. I love the whole ICPC idea and have always wanted to build one. I have an old Ideq(onboard NVIDIA graphics and Socket A) here that I plan on doing something with but I need to make sure I get the right PSU for it.

If your thinking about it I must say its quite a easy job but very very time consuming, but having said that the result at the end will be awesome. As for the PSU I used a M2-ATX, a power supply made for in car pc's. Theres also a M1-ATX but the M2 was a bigger and better model. I used www.mp3car.com for ideas and reviews. In the UK theres only a few places other than ebay to get any parts from, I used linitx.com and thers also itx-warehouse.co.uk.

Let me know if you do plan on starting on a icpc project.

[psbarham]

can i just add , after seeing and hearing this in the flesh yesterday , you are one talented clever little begger , this thing is awesome , and i doubt my ears could cope once you do finish it

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[Beastlee]

I sorry we had to leave before I go a real chance to see it although I did see the PCB through the window.

I'm definitely looking at doing one and have been following your work in anticipation. Wil chat offline about my ideas if you're Ok with that, do you have MSN?

[n13l pm]

can i just add , after seeing and hearing this in the flesh yesterday , you are one talented clever little begger , this thing is awesome , and i doubt my ears could cope once you do finish it

Thanks mate :happy: glad you liked it. Looks a lot better now that I installed the touchscreen, got rid of that old mouse and closed the glove box!


I sorry we had to leave before I go a real chance to see it although I did see the PCB through the window.

I'm definitely looking at doing one and have been following your work in anticipation. Wil chat offline about my ideas if you're Ok with that, do you have MSN?

Yeah no probs mate, im on MSN all the time. Il PM you my address.