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Kieran
23-11-2003, 10:25 PM
...May soon be able to get off the ground again!:thumb:

Just tried a quote with Elephant.co.uk... With a list of modifications that would give the GLS the nice bits that I like about the 2.0 Sport / VR-4...


...And they didn't try to stitch me up!!:boing4: In fact, it was the cheapest quote I've had so far!!!! Yipee!


GLS Power may just be about to change!!!:devil5:

I can see it now...

Optional Extra 17inch Sport rims
Kit from the optional extras brochure INSERT INTO post VALUES (Skirts, airdam bibs & spoiler)
Hi-contrast dash from 2.0 Sport
MMCS INSERT INTO post VALUES (it's the law!!) somehow plumbed in - I want my takeaway ordering service:D
Dark interior from Sport / VR-4 model...
Cool foldy in mirror things INSERT INTO post VALUES (learnt that EOP UK cars were fitted with these, yay!)
Remus backbox

Mmmmm....
Tasty!

Kieran
23-11-2003, 10:29 PM
And don't start with the 'Why do that when you could get a VR-4' line...

OK, cash spent on mods would go a fair way, BUT, if I do choose to pursue this way forward, then I get the following savings...

2.0 GLS fuel economy INSERT INTO post VALUES (which has recovered since Redex treatment to 30mpg mixed so far...34ish if I'm on the open road)
2.0 GLS insurance costs INSERT INTO post VALUES (at 24 this is important!)
2.0 GLS servicing & warranty costs
Ten times less grief from Alex INSERT INTO post VALUES (just because she's agreed to a VR-4 doesn't mean she's happy about it:D)

zedy1
23-11-2003, 10:37 PM
that sounds cool, now whats the cost :D

Nick VR4
23-11-2003, 10:39 PM
Why do that when you could get a VR-4 ;) joking :lolz:

I can see what you mean mate :D

You forgot to mention the savings on the servicing on a VR4 :D

Kieran
23-11-2003, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by zedy1
that sounds cool, now whats the cost :D

Erm....

Oh, is that the time?! - I really must go and erm, walk the cat:D:D

KiwiTT
23-11-2003, 11:03 PM
Sorry Kieran

Here's my estimate ..... :lolz:

17" Alloys and tyres $1,500
Body Kit $3,000
Dash $500
MMCS $2,000
Dark Interior $2,000

$9,000 + $12,000 INSERT INTO post VALUES (GLS price) = $21,000

Hmmm .... No 280hp, No 4WD, No AYC, No TC, No Fun

$15,000 INSERT INTO post VALUES (STD VR-4) = $6,000 less.

This $6,000 can be used to pay the insurance and other costs.

Brind
23-11-2003, 11:04 PM
What about power and handling? why don't you just save and get a VR-4. :D :D

Kieran
24-11-2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by KiwiTT
Sorry Kieran

Here's my estimate...


I presume these prices are in NZD? Nevermind, here's both INSERT INTO post VALUES (of what I know so far):

17" Alloys and tyres £680 = NZ$ 1,808

Body Kit... Haven't priced - but the kit is fitted to some UK cars as standard - and non VR4s appear somewhat more often in salvage yards...

Dash £380 = NZ$1,010 - but again, some UK 4cyl models had them as standard, so salvage is a possibility...

MMCS - Peterernest is bringing his MMCS screen to the next meet we're both at, and I've seen posts from one or two other peeps on here saying they're fed up with it, so I should be able to get the screen + back end bits fairly cheaply INSERT INTO post VALUES (anyone who wants rid of their MMCS system, let me know - please!) :bow:

Dark Interior - Again, UK spec cars eventually got dark interiors... Salvage again.

The GLS, bearing in mind it's mileage currently books at £4,000 - NZ$10,643

So far, the mods add up to £1,060 - NZ$2,820

OK, as mine are incomplete, let's take your final figure of $6000, which works out at £2,254. Considering I'm facing quotes ranging from £600~800 for the GLS, I think a VR-4 would be circa £1200 for me.

This leaves £1000 for fuel + maintenance. with the miles I do, I'd be surprised if that lasted more than 4ish months.

I think the key thing here is that you're forgetting ongoing costs. I did a spreadsheet that plots whole life running costs INSERT INTO post VALUES (not including depreciation) over 1, 3 and 5 years. Add the average figures for a VR-4 into it and the result is way above GLS territory. I'm not convinced that I would not be in a 'diminishing returns' type scenario with a VR-4...

Re: No 280hp, No 4WD, No AYC, No TC... My loss - but I've never had it to loose.

No Fun - :headsc::mad:Knickers!:nono: I firmly believe that you can have fun whatever the car - different cars bring different fun!


NEXT!:screwu::D

zedy1
24-11-2003, 12:22 AM
i seen a gas conversion kit for £850.00 supply only, say i do 100 miles a week INSERT INTO post VALUES (averaged out after travelling to meets ect) hw much can i save. a tenner will give me 30 miles

we need to have kieran for accounts and finance :D

KiwiTT
24-11-2003, 12:30 AM
Oh well ;)

I suppose, if you are going to rationalise a dream, its not worth having. A GLS + VR4 kit is OK, if it is not your dream. I don't believe a VR-4 is a really rational car. There are always, cheaper, faster, more economical, etc. available. A dream has no real price. Put a price on it, and it loses it's appeal. INSERT INTO post VALUES (re. spreadsheet)

My VR-4 and many others, it is their dream car.

Brind
24-11-2003, 12:53 AM
Kieran's a Witch! :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

;) :D

Kieran
24-11-2003, 12:55 AM
KiwiTT...That's a very insightful aspect.

My dream at the moment is to get my own drive to polish mine and Alex's GLSes on. Once we're there, then maybe.
I think getting extra financial pressure at the moment would jepordise that dream...

Argh! I'm wandering into 'up all night pondering mode'.... Not good!:nono::rolleyes:

Kieran
24-11-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by Brind
Kieran's a Witch! :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

;) :D

LMAOLOL!!!!!!:D

I've been rumbled!:D

Brind
24-11-2003, 12:58 AM
Knew you would fall down at some point!! :devil2: :lolz:

KiwiTT
24-11-2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Kieran
...My dream at the moment is to get my own drive to polish mine and Alex's GLSes on. ...

I can understand that. You have your priorities right.

We already own our own home. Hence, my dream fulfillment

Japmetal
24-11-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Kieran
Ten times less grief from Alex INSERT INTO post VALUES (just because she's agreed to a VR-4 doesn't mean she's happy about it:D)

I have the perfect way to counter this; whenever she starts whinging about my obsession with all things Mitsubishi [usually starting "WHAT is so amazing about them ? It's just a car !"] I threaten to go buy a Micra.

You should see her panic !!

I'm with Kieran on this one tho; Considering how much my 2.0 GTi costs to run [even allowing that my other half lives in Notts] VR4 ownership is currently a scary prospect !!

Kieran
24-11-2003, 01:12 AM
Cheers, KiwiTT:)

Brind - No put those flames out! Arrrgh!:flamer1:

:devil2:We all GLS down here!!!:devil2:

And you will GLS too!!!

Brind
24-11-2003, 01:14 AM
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Spirit
24-11-2003, 01:20 AM
:lolz:

Kieran
24-11-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by Japmetal
I have the perfect way to counter this; whenever she starts whinging about my obsession with all things Mitsubishi [usually starting "WHAT is so amazing about them ? It's just a car !"] I threaten to go buy a Micra.

You should see her panic !!



:D
That sounds familiar... Alex HATES Micras... 'Nasty Microbes' she calls them:D

BraindG
24-11-2003, 09:55 AM
No!!.. not that clown again, it scares me!!.. /runs away and hides behind sofa

Kieran
24-11-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by BraindG
No!!.. not that clown again, it scares me!!.. /runs away and hides behind sofa

Admit it - it wasn't the clown! It was the dreaded three letters in the picture that got you going!!

Brind
24-11-2003, 10:33 PM
BEEP BEEP BARRY!!! :devil2:

:D

Kieran
24-11-2003, 10:47 PM
:lolz:

I thought that Tim Curry did a great job with Pennywise... I liked him!

ritch_w
25-11-2003, 01:45 PM
can i be really thick and ask what the "MMCS system" is?
and is it only on the VR4 or is it also on the V6 sport?


Kieran, if you cant afford the VR4 stick with the GLS, Galants are all good cars in their own respective sectors.

Duncans managed to get most of the parts for his galant reasonabley priced so its definately possible

I could have got a VR4 with what my V6 Sport cost - but i would not be able to service it and fuel it... INSERT INTO post VALUES (i've done over 16K in six months)
if i win the lottery i'll buy one - no question about it!

zedy1
25-11-2003, 02:13 PM
its some sort of a stupid screen which has tv sat and heater and audio controls and doesnt work here :D

not too bad for kieran as he is learning to read and write japenese :D

peterernest
25-11-2003, 04:14 PM
LOL

BraindG
25-11-2003, 04:40 PM
is it safe to come out yet?

Brind
26-11-2003, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by BraindG
is it safe to come out yet?


That's somethng personal, and we won't judge you here mate. :D :D

zedy1
26-11-2003, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by Brind
That's somethng personal, and we won't judge you here mate. :D :D



:lolz:

Spirit
26-11-2003, 03:24 AM
:lolz:

Kieran
26-11-2003, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by zedy1
its some sort of a stupid screen which has tv sat and heater and audio controls and doesnt work here :D

:mad2:Wash your mouth out!:D

zedy1
27-11-2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Kieran
:mad2:Wash your mouth out!:D



sorry kieran didnt mean that honest