pics of my -01 vr4 5-speed

[Eagleton]

Hi!

Just got this one (if you missed my noob thread) It´s a VR4 Type V (I guess) it´s a -01 on the papers but bought from mitsu -03. It has a Momo stearing wheel with mitsubishi logo on it, black recaro seats, a ralliart logo on the trunk and a Ralliart handbook. Trigger Mauve colour.
Dont know what else to say. I´ve allready fitted a "monster style" cf hood and the cf trunk to it. 19" are ordered (see pic below)

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f338/Eagleton/IMG_0120.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f338/Eagleton/IMG_0115.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f338/Eagleton/IMG_0117.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f338/Eagleton/svart.jpg

Plans are to get a new exhaust, higher boost pressure, black tinted windows and get the car lowered, for now

[Nick VR4]

Nice pics :D

[AncientOfMu]

Just out of interest where did you get the hood from and how much? if you don't mind me asking.

[Funkstar]

Love that bonnet.

[Eagleton]

I got it from someone in the US, he had it on his car, dont know why he decided to sell it. Can´t remember what I got it for, total with freight, taxes and stuff to Sweden was about 6000swedish kronor (about 800 USD)

I´ve had it on my previous Galant for like a year or so.

[AncientOfMu]

I got it from someone in the US, he had it on his car, dont know why he decided to sell it. Can´t remember what I got it for, total with freight, taxes and stuff to Sweden was about 6000swedish kronor (about 800 USD)

I´ve had it on my previous Galant for like a year or so.

Thanks :).

[stuartturbo]

does look nice after one me self

[bradc]

You've got the best type of bonnet possible. Any chance you could take some more pictures of it, preferably outside? I've got the same bonnet, and a facelift car in the same colour, and I'm interested to see what my bonnet would look like in black.

Nice mags by the way, how wide are they and what is the offset?

[ShadyNZer]

nice man, love that bonnet

[Eagleton]

You've got the best type of bonnet possible. Any chance you could take some more pictures of it, preferably outside? I've got the same bonnet, and a facelift car in the same colour, and I'm interested to see what my bonnet would look like in black.

Nice mags by the way, how wide are they and what is the offset?

Hi, I can take some pictures in a couple of weeks outside, right now there´s snow everywhere here, I dont drive the car now.

The mags are 19x8" ET46

[Gly]

19 x 8s? they actually fit under there? any rub?

what size tyres?

[Eagleton]

Yeah they fit, I had 19x7.5" on my -99 Galant with 40mm lowering springs with out any problems at all. I have not decided about tyre size yet, but I guess it´ll be 2xx*35*19

Dont any of you guys drive on 19" ?

[Gly]

most of us have 17s or 18s, comfort/looks

the roads here in NZ can be quite shocking in some places,
19s with rubberbands on a daily driver wouldnt be very nice.

my 18 x 8.5s 35p offset,
come extremely close to the rear supension arms,

they have 225/40/18s on them,
i wouldnt have thought a 19" that wide with a lower offset would fit?

[bradc]

I would doubt they would fit either, especially with a 46mm offset. I would think you would need them with approx 30mm offset to clear the rear suspension arm, but with that sort of offset you would need to get your guards rolled quite heavily.

[djb160]

Ive got 19s. Having some issues with tyres at the moment, not sure whats caused them to rub. Whats the metal piece right above the rear tyres?

[Gly]

that would be the top of the hub carrier / upper suspension arm

[djb160]

Is it possible that will rub when suspension is depressed?

[Gly]

if it rubbing the inside of the tyre then its hitting the coils on the shock,
will only happen when depressed,
mike (mpau009) has/had this prob,
may have been sorted at the workshop day

[djb160]

/Grrr would this be the cause of this (see attach)

[Gly]

no thats bad alignment or way to much camber,

i use to go thru a set of tyres a year coz i had 3 degrees of negitive camber on the rear,
same as you down to the canvas on the inside, rest of its fine. (- camber is cause by lowering)
even carrying heavy loads all the time would cause this over time

either that or you have to much toe out
which will put more pressure of the inside of the tyre

having a real close look at,
is the very inside edge sorta carved out in a concaved kinda way?
if so its rubbing on a coil,

have a look at your suspension see if you can see any shiney bits where is could be rubbing??

thats also an issue that comes up with lowering, even on standard wheels

[djb160]

How much can you trust the laser printoff in alignments coz one wheel was out by 1mm and that was it.

[bradc]

As Gly said, if you can see a shiney bit on the suspension arm, then it has been rubbing, otherwise that problem is just down to camber or toe-out problems.

What width and offset are your wheels and what sized tyres do you have?

[Gly]

what was the camber angle?

what wheel and tyre size?

[djb160]

tyres be 215/35/19 on 19s(obviously) wheels are either 7.5 or 8 not sure about offset(where would I look for it?)

[Gly]

its cast into the inside of the mag,
usually on one of the spokes,

sometimes on the inside of the center hub,

what was the camber??
if its more than -1 degree on the rear thats your most like culprite,
and then the spring if its been lowered?

[djb160]

Not lowered. Need to figure it out before buying eagles. I appologise to Eagleton for this hijacking. Will wider tyres be more prone to this, 225 - 245? Whats a good price for eagles?

[bradc]

It isn't a hijack though because he's going to be running into the same problems as you have.

Anyway I would suggest you find out how wide the wheels are, if they are 19x7.5" then you could run 225's on there, but you would have to make sure an extra 5mm on either side wouldn't rub on anything.

TBH I highly doubt Eagleton will be able to get anything wider than 225's on there.

[mpau009]

if it rubbing the inside of the tyre then its hitting the coils on the shock,
will only happen when depressed,
mike (mpau009) has/had this prob,
may have been sorted at the workshop day

Thinking about that, and your PM Djb, if it was rubbing it would be really obvious even if it is only under load, as you can see from my pic, i could actually smell tyres when i got out, thats what made me have a look. And from the amount of wear in your pics, i would say that it must be alignment, or cronic rubbing, even with my old stock suspension i had over 3 degrees of negative camber, which surprised the guys doing the alignment.

I dont know how much bigger rolling diameter your 19s would have, but is it possible it might be hitting that carrier arm? I can sort of imagine the wheel travelling on an arc up to it on that inside edge with nice bouncy stock springs.
Id have a good look around for clean patches, if not then its got to be alignment.

I noticed the Eagle f1s also seem to have quite a thick side wall despite the flex it gives, they seem to stick out a few mm further than other tyres i have had in the same 205/55-16 size?

[bradc]

215/35/19 is only a few mm bigger than 205/55/16. My 255/40/17's are going to be quite a bit bigger, but my offset will position the wheels a lot further out.

[djb160]

What values should my offset be between coz Ive got my wheels off and sitting where I can see them?

[Gly]

35-45ish

will either usually be followed or preceided by ET or P
(40p, et35,etc...)

[djb160]

I found what looks like ET 45. Whats this mean as far as tyres/wheels are concerned?

[Gly]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_%28wheel%29

[djb160]

Thanks Gly. So my take from that is I probably need a smaller offset which would move my wheels out from the suspension arm right?

[Gly]

yep,

you could buy spacers also

[djb160]

Spacers? Got another good link or explanation?

[Gly]

a spacer to fit between the wheel and the hub so it pushes the wheel futher out

when doing this you may need to roll the guards to give more room for the outer edge of the wheel so it wont rub on the outer guard

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Toyota/Engines-drive-trains/auction-89406899.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Wheels-tyres/Other/auction-89431446.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/SearchResults.aspx?searchType=0001-0877-&searchString=spacers&searchRegion=100

[Gly]

i wouldbe getting a 5 to 10mm spacer so you would have a 40 to 35 offset

8mm 5 stud fitment

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Other/auction-89756595.htm

[mpau009]

Spacers? Got another good link or explanation?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Other/auction-89756595.htm

Has the same effect as having a different offset, sits between the rim and hub, but i'm not sure these type are "technically" legal when it comes to WOF, because you also have 8mm less thread on your wheel studs, but they helped my issues a lot.

[mpau009]

:P damm carsten and his speedy fingers/pan

[Gly]

HAHAHA i beat you!

you still got the knocking noise from the rear mike?

[mpau009]

HAHAHA i beat you!

you still got the knocking noise from the rear mike?

Yeah, but no rubbing.. i think kens diagnosis of dodgy springs was probably right, whether its that theyre supposed to be in a galant, or i just stuffed them by bottoming out so hard..

I'll change them for my next warrant (April), until then id rather spend my money on messing around with the MAP2:iloveyou: Al at drivenperformance is getting me one at the group buy rate even though that fell through.. but ASB wont let me pay for it, since its over $800, and i forgot some stupid password/pan And i wanted to be the first:baby:

[djb160]

Okay, so at the moment with my 215/35 on i can just fit my finger between the inner tyre and the suspension arm and Im guessing that the eagles being 225 might cause some issues yes? any clarification on this line of thinking

[bradc]

Al is a good guy, I used to sell him computer parts at my old work, mention my name if you don't mind :)

BTW, do you mean you'll change the wheels or the springs?

[bradc]

djb, the 225's will be 5mm closer to the suspension arm so you'd want a 5mm spacer at the minimum.

[mpau009]

Okay, so at the moment with my 215/35 on i can just fit my finger between the inner tyre and the suspension arm and Im guessing that the eagles being 225 might cause some issues yes? any clarification on this line of thinking

Is that with the suspension unloaded, or as the car sits normally? Was there any noticable rubbing on the upper part of the arm? Whats the clearance like if you put someone sitting in the back?



..and brad i have only dealt with Al over the email, but he seems like a very helpful sort of guy, hopefully they will offer us some other deals in future.

Also does someone with the right privileges want to split this thread so we dont hijack it too much.. its kinda moved away from eagletons topic?

[djb160]

Unloaded. I couldnt see any rubbing but shining a torch up there might give me a better idea.

Good suggestion mpau009 maybe the tyres section?

[Eagleton]

Testfitted my 19 x 8" today, everythings seems fine, got a gap about 10mm from the suspension arm (without tyres) I guess I´ll go with some 5mm spacers. (i´ve got 46ET on the rims)

A little bit handy work should get them to fit properly.

[bradc]

I'd probably go with 8mm myself, they might rub on the wheel arch, but at least you can fix that, you can't move the suspension arm!

[Eagleton]

I´ll decide what spacers I want when I get a set of rubber on those mags. I dont think that I will get rubs on the wheel arches though, the car is as high as a SUV according to me :d

[Eagleton]

Got two pics for yah:

Just testmounted them(beneith):
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f338/Eagleton/pierresflgar.jpg

This is a pic taken at the top of the mag. At the top of the pic you see my upper suspension arm. With the right set of tyres, there should be no problem(beneith):
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f338/Eagleton/DSC00057.jpg


( btw, how do I make my attatched pics "easy viewed" instead of "click-able url´s? )

[bradc]

you've got quite a lot of room up from the edge of the rim to where the top of the tyre would be.

Can you measure straight up from the edge of the wheel to where it hits the suspension arch?

[Gly]

thats the front... try the rear, much less room

[Nobbe]

Wow!
Nice car Örnryd!! ...congrat!

[Eagleton]

Hi Nobbe! Thanks! I can´t wait to get on the Mantorp track this summer! Your comming to, right?