VR4 Estate on Autotrader. [Archive]

Nick Mann

12-12-2003, 02:29 PM

If you search for 'Galant' and 'VR4' on Autotrader you will find that the second match is a V reg Ralliart supplied type S estate with the sport interior. They are asking - wait for it - £5995!!!! :wtf:

Unless the mileage is WAY high, that has got to be the best bargain I have seen for many months! :Eyecrazy:

Mine is approx two years younger, but I paid two and a half times that!!

the_boy

12-12-2003, 06:20 PM

Surely that has to be a mistake? :undecided

£6000 for a V reg UK Ralliart Legnum VR4 is peanuts.
If it is a UK Ralliart motor won't they have details of it on file?
What would they need to be able to tell if it's one of theirs? The chassis number?

Very tempted at that price even if it isn't the black Type V saloon I'm looking for :-D

Mileage must be a concern though...........

Spirit

12-12-2003, 06:24 PM

Looks a bargain INSERT INTO post VALUES (as you say depends on mileage/service history) - here's a pic and the ad:

http://pictures.autotrader.co.uk/ATD_web/servlet/media?id=56177502

MITSUBISHI GALANT VR4 TWIN TURBO
ESTATE, V reg. Tiptronic, UK Ralliart, Trigger Mauve, Recaro interior, climate, alloys, e/s/r, CD, AYC, factory bodykit, awesome 280bhp performance, may p/x. £5,995.

AUCUTT
Tel: INSERT INTO post VALUES (01827) 288177 or INSERT INTO post VALUES (07968) 694448

enigma

12-12-2003, 06:31 PM

That would seriously pee me off!!!! Mine is similarly aged and I paid considerably more than that! Gotta be some mistake!

enigma

12-12-2003, 06:42 PM

:soapbox:

It Is 100% Genuine! I Have Just Been On The Phone And It Is A 99 V With 104000 Miles......doesn't Scare Me! This Is A Club Buy If Ever There Was One! It Has A Full Ralliart Warranty And Is Based In Tamworth..............how Can I Get £6000 Sharpish? It Will Sell Tomorrow!

:soapbox:

Kieran

12-12-2003, 06:46 PM

I don't think this is a car buying time of year Dave...

It's a bloody good price though.

/Calls in at petrol station on way to Alex's house for choccies and flowers....

enigma

12-12-2003, 06:51 PM

You know it makes sense......do it.....do it.....subliminal message.......do it.....do it.....
Even if you need to spend £1000 having doctor Mo replace the engine........do ittt.....doooooooo ittttttttt.

If I didn't already have one, or I thought I could shift mine on for what I paid for it, or if I had the money in my back pocket INSERT INTO post VALUES (I am about £1500 short:INSERT INTO post VALUES () I may consider going for a test drive!

I wonder if it has MMCS?

SGHOM

12-12-2003, 08:09 PM

just spotted it !! 52 miles from me. [ wherever it is ] if it's good I'm having it !! :wow: :wiggle:

enigma

12-12-2003, 08:36 PM

Derek, it is in Tamworth, off the M42 at J10 and its about a mile in the direction of Drayton Manor Park.................

the_boy

12-12-2003, 08:41 PM

DAVE!! You're not allowed to have 2 when some have none :scelp:

:-D :-D :-D

Kieran

12-12-2003, 09:18 PM

Mo INSERT INTO post VALUES (Zedy1) has two VR-4s! Perhaps we should form a 'Equal distribution of VR-4s' support group?!?! :-D

SGHOM

12-12-2003, 09:20 PM

you speak 4 yourself Kieran !! If I want 2, I'll buy 2. [ only if it's got MMCS though !! ] ;)

enigma

12-12-2003, 09:27 PM

I think it is a good opportunity for someone!

Share the wealth :)

SGHOM

12-12-2003, 09:37 PM

I think we should all chip in & make it the club VR4 project car !! and lets see just how much we can extract from the engine before it self destructs !! :thumbsup: :devil5: :gun1: :evil2:

the_boy

12-12-2003, 09:38 PM

Don't you think with over 100, 000 miles on the clock that a lot will need replacing in terms of natural wear and tear?

How long do the turbos last?
What about springs, rubber seals etc?
If you're not a good DIY'er then it could be expensive in the long run

Not that I'm a bit of a worrier :sick:

SGHOM

12-12-2003, 10:03 PM

mileage has never bothered me with a car. if it's been serviced properly, then it shouldn't be an issue. apart from the time when I owned a garage, & I sold a cortina estate , one owner, fsh, with 85000 showing on the clock. I new the owner !!! :$ it had been a taxi, & had done a genuine 485,000 miles . :lipsrseal

Kieran

12-12-2003, 10:04 PM

To be honest, modern engines should be able to cope with high mileages without too many of the problems you tend to associate with leggy cars. Things have simply moved on. OK, so the VR-4 is a complex beast, but like Dave, I wouldn't be loosing sleep over it breaking down if I brought it.

It all comes down to how it's been driven and serviced - my GLS has spent most of it's life belting down the motorway and has a dealer stamp roughly once every 3 months in the book, so despite a high mileage, it feels good and solid. This VR-4 may have been stunt driven since day one - but there would be giveaway signs of this to warn you off of it.

I like Interlec's idea of a C-VR4 project car :devil5: ...

SGHOM

12-12-2003, 10:11 PM

I like Interlec's idea of a C-VR4 project car :devil5: ...[/QUOTE]

as VR4's are a bit specialist, maybe we should start on something cheap & cheerful first !! when are you thinking of selling yours kieran ?? :scared1: :evil2: :wiggle: :bow: :devil5:

Kieran

12-12-2003, 10:17 PM

:furious3:Cheap and Cheerful my arse!:-D

But if you do want to throw money in my direction in order to make my GLS go faster, look nicer, handle better and stop shorter, feel free!!! :p

zedy1

12-12-2003, 11:16 PM

i remember talking to the chap who owned it INSERT INTO post VALUES (if its the same one) he was desprate to sell it cus he had just purchased a new mazda. if someone calls the garage ask when was the cambelt changed cus previous keeper hasnt had ut done

zedy1

12-12-2003, 11:16 PM

i do feel tempted to buy it but im abit short on cash

Spirit

12-12-2003, 11:17 PM

Ok here's the deal - we have approx 30 members in the UK - if we put subs up to £200 each we have enough for a club car. Would feel a bit like Alex Ferguson i,e we would each have a share in a thoroughbred race horse !

enigma

12-12-2003, 11:19 PM

As I said full Service history.....and I believe it was my idea to have it as a CVR4 buy :INSERT INTO post VALUES (

enigma

12-12-2003, 11:19 PM

My £200 is secured! :)

Spirit

12-12-2003, 11:22 PM

As I said full Service history.....and I believe it was my idea to have it as a CVR4 buy :INSERT INTO post VALUES (

Just misread what I posted mate, I was just adding what it would actually cost to do it - get back in your pram/Skoda/VR4/sleigh :p :-D :-D :-D

the_boy

12-12-2003, 11:27 PM

Never said the engine wouldn't last I was on about the other perishables.

Honestly, how long are the turbos supposed to last on the car?
You have 2 and I imagine it would be quite expensive.

Although like it states it does come with a warranty

zedy1

12-12-2003, 11:30 PM

my 200 quid is there too

SGHOM

12-12-2003, 11:46 PM

my £200 is too !! but my £6k might be there a bit sooner . :boing3:

the_boy

13-12-2003, 03:08 AM

<petulant mode>

Anyone going to answer my query???

How long do the turbos last? And don't say forever or the life of the car cos they don't...................

</petulant mode>

A lot of questions go unanswered and that's my biggest gripe about this board!! :noshake:

It's not that I don't love you guys/gals :-D

Spirit

13-12-2003, 08:35 AM

I may be wrong here mate, but surely it's a bit like "how long's a piece of string" ?

I guess it depends on such things as servicing, oil quality, the way the car has been driven, remembering to let the oil cool each time you turn off the engine etc etc. Unless you have owned the car from new you arn't going to know the answers to the above so it's pretty much look after them as best you can from when you buy the car and cross your fingers they last. If damage is already done then you can't change that can you.

SGHOM

13-12-2003, 09:03 AM

imagine the scenario !!! "you can use it today Pete !! but can you drop it off with !the boy! in newcastle later " nice 1000 mile round trip !!! :-D :D

enigma

13-12-2003, 09:16 AM

I guess the ultimate plan would be to make the fastest VR4 on the planet.....we have a lot of knowledge on the board with good cheap ways to make big gains..........as far as I see it there is no point spending mega paounds INSERT INTO post VALUES (tm Kieran) on modding the SUMO skyline when you could spend far less cash and do the thame job.......ok it wouldn't have the brand names, but I cant see it would make a difference. My BDA exhaust and cat bypass work well.....why pay double or even tripple for HKS, Greddy, or even Ralliart parts??!!

borgan

13-12-2003, 11:01 AM

if the project is to be a rapid VR4 then upping the amount to £300 would allow a budget for mods. selling uneeded bits INSERT INTO post VALUES (interior, air con etc.) would add to the budget & lighten the car. The club could organise outings to track days where those who've paid can enjoy their investment. Should the car be written off then most parts can be sold paying back the initial outlay. whoever mods the car should be paid for their time out of the initial budget. these are just some of my thoughts if we do proceed. I'm in by the way.

We need 30 people & quickly. a deposit could be left picking the car up in 2 weeks,allowing time for the money to be collected from everyone.

Kieran

13-12-2003, 11:06 AM

Chalk up my £200! I'm good for it!

And to The Boy... Turboharger life is HIGHLY dependent on how the engine is treated. Turbo chargers CAN last the lifetime of the car, if they're given a bit of consideration:

Change the oil at least every 3,000 miles.
Always use the oil that is recommended by the engine manufacturer.
Always let the engine warm up when starting. 30-60 seconds in warmer weather and longer as the temperature drops.
Do not rev engine during warm up time, the turbo may not yet have received a full supply of oil.
Always let the engine idle for a period when stopping. The faster you have driven, the longer you should allow for the turbos to spool downINSERT INTO post VALUES (quite a few peeps in CVR4 have turbo timers for this purpose).
If you shut the engine off at speeds above idle, or the turbo is likely to still be spinning at high revs INSERT INTO post VALUES (a turbo can reach speeds of 100,000 revs) - This will starve to turbo of oil and screw the brearings!
When oil is changed, always prime the filter and crank over engine without starting until oil pressure is observed.

Nick Mann

13-12-2003, 11:33 AM

I'm in!

Blimey! This has to be the quickest expanding thread I have seen! I only posted the first note yesterday lunchtime! I really posted it in case anyone wanted to try for a bargain, but I think a club car is a good idea. At that price we can't lose money, can we?

Tamworth is only 1/2 hour from me, so I am more than willing to go there with a deposit, or to meet someone else who is interested.

enigma

13-12-2003, 11:40 AM

To be honest I think unless we act instantly, it will be gone. In fact I bet we are already too late!

Spirit

13-12-2003, 05:46 PM

Let's be realistic for a minute - what about ownership, storage, tax, insurance, MOT's etc etc - and what are the chances of 30 people coming forward ? More like 10 will which is then £600 upwards each plus mods etc??

landy

13-12-2003, 09:28 PM

What an exciting thought !!

If we could raise the cash INSERT INTO post VALUES (before it is sold) it would be interesting to have a club car.

I would be quite willing to fork out 200 quid, even though this is the worse off I've been financially for years INSERT INTO post VALUES (my aging Espace is knackered and I need another good people carrier for my 4 kids and 2 wives... only joking, 1 wife ;) I even thought about selling my Legnum the other day :sick: :stunned: but have decided against that now :hurrah:

But spirit979 has a very valid point there :thinking:

Spirit

13-12-2003, 11:03 PM

Valid yes, but still a damn exciting prospect if we could pull it off ! I would still be in if we can get enough people.

venomboy

13-12-2003, 11:17 PM

I hate to disappoint everyone, but I've bought it! I've been looking for a while now and this seemed a good deal. It's gone to a good home. Now I've got one, I'll be sending in my subs.INSERT INTO post VALUES ( I wasn't sure, before ,that I'd ever really get one!) I look forward to meeting you all on club meets.
VB

enigma

13-12-2003, 11:18 PM

I think it is maybe worth considering an 'investment fund' I am not quite sure how it would work, but I am sure there are some legal implications. My wife is a business bank manager, I will have a word with her as I know one of her customers has done a similar thing with a bus INSERT INTO post VALUES (????!). I think it would be an awesome idea. Storage.....well I know Mo has room for 2, so another wouldn't be too much of a hardship! If we were to think about it as a hardcore racer a fair amount of money could be raised by selling off heavy parts like the interior etc. I think perhaps £6000 would be pushing it, and to raise it quickly would be a problem. How trusting is everyone for the treasurer to look after an amount of money so if and when something comes up in the future we are more prepared? Its just an idea, but as with the scrap one a month or so ago I reckon we could have made money on these things require quick action! I am jabbering, mainly because I am exhausted........but what do you peeps think? Its just an idea!

enigma

13-12-2003, 11:20 PM

Hoooooooooorrrrrray! Welcome as a proper member venomboy! Hope you will post some pics soon! Whats it like? Is it the bargain we thought?

Nick Mann

13-12-2003, 11:24 PM

Was it this post that lead you to it? Or did you find it before hand?
When do you pick it up? Would it be at all helpful if I met you there? Let me know...

Spirit

13-12-2003, 11:27 PM

Congrats Venom Boy - pleased for you mate

/puts wadge of cash back into wallet !

venomboy

13-12-2003, 11:30 PM

ok, and thanks, It's a Legnum, imported new by RalliArt ,99,2 owners, immaculate, EXCEPT, it's missing a small centre part to the bottom of the front spoiler, need to get one of those, any idea how much? It has the reccaro/momo/carbon fibre interior. It does not have the mmcs if I understand that correctly to be the large touch screen thingie, standard climate control computer and jukebox cd player. chrome surround on the tiptronic. Drives perfect, smooooth and tight no clunks bangs or thumps from anywhere INSERT INTO post VALUES ( that I could tell) has tonneau cover and boot guard.
VB

Brind

13-12-2003, 11:30 PM

Never seen you people move so fast!! :D

I could see many fights over ownership, like kids fighting over a football.. :shifty:

Congrats on the Buy though VenomBoy!

Spirit

13-12-2003, 11:33 PM

Believe the bit you need is about £30 VB

zedy1

13-12-2003, 11:34 PM

conrtats venomboy looking forward for some pics

venomboy

13-12-2003, 11:36 PM

Yeah, don't go postal on me! I was keeping a close eye on Autotrader, after missing out on that blue one last week for £4200, but I was logging on to the club site when I saw your post Nick, Thanks for the steer.