EBC Breaks?

[simpsonm]

OK I know everyones been slaggin them off but they sell the drilled and grooved discs on funky products. Are these ****e or are they OK with a good set of pads?

[zedy1]

the discs are not too bad but the pads are ****e especcially red stuff, i just replaced my red stuff after 1oo miles with standard ones and the standards are better

[Spirit]

Yep, by all accounts the pads are ****e. Get the Ferodo DS2500's