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Nevman
03-10-2007, 12:37 PM
Have you seen that:

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/03/06/039353.html

Is it really Galant???:speechles

Nick VR4
03-10-2007, 01:01 PM
I think its for the yank market not EU

Paul Beazer
03-10-2007, 01:08 PM
What is it with american cars that have big engines, but low bhp?

Nick Mann
03-10-2007, 01:18 PM
They don't refine their oil into petrol for a start. Standard unleaded can be had in octanes below 90!

thecustomer
03-10-2007, 03:54 PM
it's for the USA and I think Australia has a plant turning out something similar (http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/mitsubishi-ps41-engine.htm) and here (http://www.sporttalk.com.au/mitsubishi-tmr-380-revealed/) too

Will

jayjay99
03-10-2007, 07:22 PM
From my trip to america last year......

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Didn't really look that nice in the flesh either!

bradc
03-10-2007, 07:27 PM
Nick - american fuel is rated in MON or something, have a look on www.carbibles.com for a good explanation.

The Galant being sold in the USA is the same as the Aussie 380 which has been for sale here for at least 2 years now. It hasn't been doing well at all and I don't see many on the road.

The new american Lancer which is being called the Galant in Japan on the other hand is a very nice looking car.

I-S
03-10-2007, 08:43 PM
American fuel rating is actually PON - Pump Octane Number. This is calculated by (RON + MON)/2. It results in a lower number than plain RON figures.

Americans like low-end torque from petrol engines. That's why 4-pot engines, especially things like VTEC, have not been popular there. The big, lazy engines that they like have several advantages - the low-end torque allows for long gearing for all-day highway cruising, last a very long time, and they have very low emissions (low-temperature combustion, full combustion of HCs, very low NOx - note that many european and japanese cars have huge trouble passing california emissions standards). The main disadvantage is simply the weight of the engine.

Note that I didn't say fuel economy... Whilst I was in the US last time, my bf and I drove several thousand miles in his Chevy Impala. This is a saloon car that is 5080mm long (for comparison, a standard wheelbase E38 BMW 7series is 4983mm), although it "only" weighs 1570kg. On a 600 mile run from Sunnyvale CA to Palm Springs CA, with several stops, three hours crawling in traffic (accident on I15), etc it did 29mpg. Remember that's US gallons, so the UK equivalent is 34.8mpg - really not bad for a 200bhp large car with 4 speed auto. It was headed for 30mpg until I decided to cruise it at 90mph past Edwards AFB... It managed that because 70mph was about 1400rpm in 4th and it had the torque to do that.

The 9g galant has been going for many years and has never been pretty. The 380 coincided with something of a mid-life update for the 9g.

MGV6
03-10-2007, 09:31 PM
the car looks absolutely POO!

Nevman
03-10-2007, 11:58 PM
That is one of the most ugliest cars I've ever seen!!!

American engines got one more and most important advantage: they are almost immortal!!! Typical european engine has the lifespan of 200k (well... it depends on maintenance and make of course) where average american can do 500k without any problems whatsoever.

bradc
04-10-2007, 07:30 AM
americans like laid back engines and cars like that because if they did try and go fast or around a corner their fat would obscure the other passengers vision as it deformed and rolled across the interior

VR4Manna
06-10-2007, 05:31 PM
Even if I get shot now - Vauxhall Vectra springs to mind....

ianturbo
06-10-2007, 10:47 PM
it looks like a toyota avensis , i like the mustang behind it though :evilgrin:
ian

The Vee
07-10-2007, 12:52 PM
The Aussie version that thecustomer has linked to looks so much better.

ANTHONY
07-10-2007, 07:22 PM
Even if I get shot now - Vauxhall Vectra springs to mind....thata ok cos the new evo look like a vauxhall astra