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psbarham
14-10-2007, 10:07 PM
has anybody fitted one of these to a N/A V6? if so what sort of gains was there? and yes before anybody goes 'AFR's ' i am going to order an LM-1 as i now have a queue of people waiting to use it /Grrr
Nutter_John
14-10-2007, 10:16 PM
not sure how much extra you would get out of the v6 , when Lboots had his it was very very tight on the AFR's so didn't seem to be much you could gain .

Now replacing the maf would give you some as would playing with the timing

So tbhit the SAFC on the v6 would not give you a very good bang for buck score
psbarham
14-10-2007, 10:28 PM
fair do's , i'll check the afr's first and go from there.
bradc
14-10-2007, 11:00 PM
I've got one sitting at home, it might get put onto my ST-R at some point. Don't think it will work with the bmw.
psbarham
19-10-2007, 07:47 PM
well i've had a quick play with the LM1 and the fueling on these ain't bad at all , the run in the picture is a gentle trundle upto about 30 (getting out of the layby) then booting it to 140
Nutter_John
19-10-2007, 07:53 PM
does seem quite good but you should be able to push it closer to 14's with the safc
so maybe you could tweak a few extra horse via the fueling

Wonder how much better it was on Lboot's as he claimed he was told it was perfect across the entire run - maybe the RR he used was not that accurate
Kieran
19-10-2007, 08:22 PM
Here you go - Ian's car is 4th down.
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24407
Nutter_John
19-10-2007, 08:29 PM
pity you did not have rpm measured as well paul , but looking at Ian's I would say there is scope for some tweaking - would advise that if you do use the SAFC then you watch for knock as well ( but you already knew that )
psbarham
19-10-2007, 08:43 PM
pity you did not have rpm measured as well paul , but looking at Ian's I would say there is scope for some tweaking - would advise that if you do use the SAFC then you watch for knock as well ( but you already knew that )
yeh i know , i need the rpm convertor for that , but then i can use the super sexy 3d graph :afro: i belive evo scan or some such can monitor knock through the odb port so as and when i decide to play i will invest in that as well , i may well find out what my compression is and see what scope for improvment there is in the engine breathing department, Mmmmm ported heads, i can see this is gonna be expensive :pimp2:
Nutter_John
19-10-2007, 09:08 PM
The ecu gives you knock sum not knock value

think you are around 9.5:1 for the comp ratio
psbarham
19-10-2007, 09:19 PM
The ecu gives you knock sum not knock value

think you are around 9.5:1 for the comp ratio

that low :o for the N/A room to play there then :pimp2:

so i'd need a knock link then as well
Nutter_John
19-10-2007, 09:52 PM
may be easier to get it setup on a rolling road as they can shove some det cans on
bradc
19-10-2007, 10:06 PM
yeah 9.5:1 for the n/a v6's
psbarham
20-10-2007, 08:48 AM
yeah 9.5:1 for the n/a v6's

thats pretty **** for a n/a , 10.5 -11.5 would be nearer the mark
bradc
20-10-2007, 09:19 AM
rpw sell a full kit to make it a dohc mivec engine with 12.5:1 compression.
psbarham
20-10-2007, 09:44 AM
rpw sell a full kit to make it a dohc mivec engine with 12.5:1 compression.

you teaseing slag, but why would i need that ?








how much ?:thinking:
bradc
20-10-2007, 11:26 AM
That engine will make about 220-230kw, and revs out to 9000rpm. It would cost about 5000 pounds though, plus an ecu install.

If my 850CSi turns out to be a bit of a dog, I might sell it and get one of those engines and put it into the ST-R, how cool would that be, it would be faster than a standard VR-4 :)
dutch driver
21-11-2007, 11:01 PM
i have 1 build in my 2.0
it's for the evo engine but what the f**k put it on the 2.0 also.
and it's make a diff.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/MADeenski/dashboorderin001.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/MADeenski/klaar004.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/MADeenski/apexiafcs003.jpg