FS: Galant VR4 £1500

[Paul C]

as above, Galant Vr4,1996, ec5a 2.5 twinturbo. a few scratches, silver. roughly 45000mile will post actual tomorrow.Modified and requires fine tuning.
Extras

after market intercooler,
Map Ecu2,
Innovate AFR recorder

Quick sale required

Cheers
Paul C

[valleyforge1]

Wow sounds a bargain. Cant waitfor the pics and read up.

[Paul C]

I have just returned from me month ban and a night out on the drink. The price wont be changing but i'll post some pics. I'm looking at M3 tomorrow , e46 shape, so i'm not too arsed about vr4 at moment.

[ianturbo]

bu
y it keith you know you want it !!
ian

[Axeboy]

pics would help the saleroo

[Paul C]

I'll try to get some pics up today. Things are hectic at the moment. I'm only home for 10 days this trip so I have been rushing around like a mad man to get christmas sorted and to see everyone. The Vr4 will definitely have to go somewhere as I ended up buying its replacement yesterday. Sorry for the delay I will try to get details today.

[elnevio]

I'll try to get some pics up today. Things are hectic at the moment. I'm only home for 10 days this trip so I have been rushing around like a mad man to get christmas sorted and to see everyone. The Vr4 will definitely have to go somewhere as I ended up buying its replacement yesterday. Sorry for the delay I will try to get details today.
Ooh, what have you got now? (and have another bump...)

[orionn2o]

yes im interested to see the pics!

[Beastlee]

What do you mean by fine tuning?

Has it had the timing belt done?

[Paul C]

What do you mean by fine tuning?

Has it had the timing belt done?

The timing belt was done when i purchased the car around 2 year ago.

The car is running off VR4 Map for map ecu 2. The boost needs setting up and the map needs tuning to the car. I would of done it by now if I had the time.I was going to use eurospec but they are based in guildford and i'm in middlesbrough. At the moment the vr4 is at my mothers house and i havent had chance to pick her up or take pics. I have a demanding family that have been keeping me busy.

I need to get my finger out and post some pics.Soon i hope.

[Paul C]

I found a recent picture of the engine bay so I have posted below.

The chassis number is EC5A-0000710
Model: Saloon
colour: Silver
reg P 1996
Transmission: Auto
MOT: Until May 2009

£1500 and open to offers

25131

[caishanvr4]

Any pix of the body?

[orionn2o]

when you say scratches, are they big ones (respray job) or just surface level?

[valleyforge1]

bu
y it keith you know you want it !!
ian

I keep looking and it depends on this job might, might not happen situation that Iam in at the moment.

With lass now running fully maintained car and the poss of this job things could actually start looking up.

The sport will have to go and it will have to be a dam good VR.

[skinthespin]

Hi there, I am new to this forum as am looking to buy something half interesting as a daily driver, so would be really interested in some pics of this too!

[rees]

lookin forward to these pics...

[jakester]

PM Sent

[foxdie]

PM also sent, pics and more information would be nice :)

[Googe]

How much would it cost to get tuned, (at a guess) for refference?
And is it fully auto or tiptronic-auto?

[Axeboy]

Have a good read around the forums or technical details Googe... cars are either Manual or Tiptronic (auto)

[Paul C]

Sorry for not updating as I 'm back at work and have been busy as hell. I have accepted an offer on the car and it will be collected on sunday. If it falls through i will wait untill i'm home in march and re post. i have had a lot of interest on and off the boardwhuch has been great, but i have been crap at posting the information.

Cheers Paul.

[Googe]

sorry, its just that i nearly bought one the other day that was fully auto, thats why i'm asking.
but in answer to the other question? a guesstimate of tuning would be?

[shaun1978]

well doesnt ben at eurospec offer to tune the map2 for around 5-600?

[elnevio]

sorry, its just that i nearly bought one the other day that was fully auto, thats why i'm asking.
but in answer to the other question? a guesstimate of tuning would be?
No such thing as a fully-auto VR-4 - all the autos have both fully-auto and tiptronic modes.

And it's not be underestimated either!

[Kieran]

No such thing as a fully-auto VR-4 - all the autos have both fully-auto and tiptronic modes.

Well... That's certainly true of the 8G VR-4 models. However the 6G and 7G models are standard PRND2L Autos :)

[Turbo_Steve]

£500 to tune a MAP2?!

[Kieran]

I think £500 is for fit and tune IIRC :)

[shaun1978]

coulda sworn thats what he said , could be wrong!

[elnevio]

I was under the impression that was in addition to buying the ECU. I.e. about £1,000 in total?

[Nick Mann]

The tune is a variable thing, IIRC. It is in the region of £500 just to buy. Then the setup involves fuelling, boost control and timing where needed. Fitting involves all the splicing of wires that a good piggyback requires, plus the wiring and plumbing of an electronic boost controller.

I don't think Ben said it was as much as £500 to fully set up, but it was a lot more than £3.49!

Ask Ben - I'm sure he'll tell you!

[elnevio]

Ok Ben - tell us!

I remember speaking to Tim (Nice But) about it, and the fact that Ben had the car for about a fortnight to get it set up properly!

[rees]

we await ben's wise words with baited breath...

[Eurospec]

Like Nick says, it depends!

At retail prices, the box is £545 plus vat. If you buy a box and have us fit it and map it we do a package for £895 plus vat. From that you can extrapolate that the fitting/mapping is about £350

When we did the group buys here we gave you a fit and map price of around £400 for which i did the fit, the launch control on manuals, and the boost controller, 2 complete switchable maps (HI and LO) and turn the handbrake light into a shift light.

So it does depend on how much of it you want set up (Thus how long it takes me!)

If its a group buy unit, then you can take advantage of that package.

If its a remap- ie pauls one- then its less since obviously i dont need to do complete map.

Cheers,

Ben.

[Nutter_John]

Hmmm looks like Torque of the Devil bought the car and has put it on ebay with an extra £1000 for good measure

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1997-GALANT-VR4-TYPE-S-HIGHLY-MODIFIED-330-BHP_W0QQitemZ280301687248QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomo biles_UK?hash=item280301687248&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318

he has also not mentioned that the MAP2 needs to be fully mapped etc , also for how it's seems to have got 330 bhp

Zee if you read this then please tell who ever buys it they need to map the car or they could blow the engine up

[Starscream]

Hmm, a bit opportunistic /pan

[peter thomson]

I thought it might be Paul's but I hadn't seen any pics until now.



Hmmm looks like Torque of the Devil bought the car and has put it on ebay with an extra £1000 for good measure

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1997-GALANT-VR4-TYPE-S-HIGHLY-MODIFIED-330-BHP_W0QQitemZ280301687248QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomo biles_UK?hash=item280301687248&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318

[Axeboy]

Agree with the comments above..

[mitsugaz]

Hmmm looks like Torque of the Devil bought the car and has put it on ebay with an extra £1000 for good measure

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1997-GALANT-VR4-TYPE-S-HIGHLY-MODIFIED-330-BHP_W0QQitemZ280301687248QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomo biles_UK?hash=item280301687248&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318

he has also not mentioned that the MAP2 needs to be fully mapped etc , also for how it's seems to have got 330 bhp

Zee if you read this then please tell who ever buys it they need to map the car or they could blow the engine up

and thats only the starting bid i do hope he mentions the mapping needs done because you dont see many of these saloons could go for a lot more money as the lowest price ive seen is £3895

[ritch_w]

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/848721.htm
£2500 is a good price for a saloon even if it needs a remap. £1500 was way too cheap to sell it in the 1st place, you cant blame Zee for that.

[shaun1978]

yeah but hes still a cheeky B(%&$£d lol

[Kieran]

£2500 is a good price for a saloon even if it needs a remap.

Not sure I agree with that. I guess it depends on how driveable the car is without it. :undecided

[ANTHONY]

can it not be demapped and put back to normal?

[Paul C]

Thats mine, good luck to him. If I needed the money right now i would of held out for £1500. To get that money he would need to sell to someone who knows nothing about cars. The market is a buyers market and for a 12 yearold car it would have to be someone who really wants one.

[Paul C]

can it not be demapped and put back to normal?

No. The airflow meter is not in the car anymore, the stock boost solonoid is not in place either.No CAT fitted. It has goodpoints to but needs a bit of work which i had no interest in doing. Now there is bald patch in my garden where it used to sit.

[TORQUE OF THE DEVIL]

The car is running perfect and doesnt really need a map i have owned and sold loads of these cars to know if its running right or not.

The car was far too cheap and sold within 15 minutes of me advertising it.

You got to do whatever to survive these days and i took an opportunity and made the most out of it like any other businessman.

I dont think anyone can complain about making £1500 in 15 minutes

Zee
PHAT "N" MODIFIED
07882980523

[peter thomson]

I'm not sure how you can say that when Paul himself said it needs tuned. I hope you have told the buyer it needs to be properly setup

[bradc]

Full props to you for selling it and making a profit like that :)

[Kieran]

I'm not sure how you can say that when Paul himself said it needs tuned. I hope you have told the buyer it needs to be properly setup

What Peter said!! :inquisiti If it's had the MAF deleted and had a MAP2 fitted, it'll need setting up!

[shaun1978]

ha who are we to have a go at this guy, yeah sure he might have not done it how you would have done it , but it's not really anything to do with us.

[Kieran]

ha who are we to have a go at this guy, yeah sure he might have not done it how you would have done it , but it's not really anything to do with us.

I think it is only fair that we ask the question - If just so Zee can say 'Yes, I sorted everything out'.

[Nick Mann]

Zee makes his money by buying and selling cars. ANy of us could have a go at doing that too. So no argument from me there.

Having said that, a short disclaimer to the new owner suggesting a remap wouldn't hurt either. The new owner will surely be pleased that the car could be made quicker/more efficient/more responsive.

[shaun1978]

I totally agree , just stating facts lol

[Nutter_John]

Sorry but a statement to the new buyer about the car not being able to pass the mot without purchasing an CAT , and the fact that the car is not ruuning to it's full potential and needs a proper map put on there

I have no issue with anyone making money and good on ya for selling so quick

[Paul C]

The car is running perfect and doesnt really need a map i have owned and sold loads of these cars to know if its running right or not.

The car was far too cheap and sold within 15 minutes of me advertising it.

You got to do whatever to survive these days and i took an opportunity and made the most out of it like any other businessman.

I dont think anyone can complain about making £1500 in 15 minutes

Zee
PHAT "N" MODIFIED
07882980523

As Zee says he is a buisness man, fair play to him if he makes £1500 then thats his gain. I got what I wanted from the deal and dont regret selling it that cheap. If i was on the bones of my arse regarding money I wouldn't of bought the M3 and would of tried and sold for a higher price.


ZEE was it the fastest you have ever drove or is that part of marketing? Just curious.

[Rambaud]

Assuming it was not a trade sale (not very likely), the new buyer will be getting the benefit of the consumer protection laws (Sale of Goods Acts, Misrepresentation Act etc). So if the mapping etc does prove a problem, it could be costly for the seller.

Then there is Income Tax, Class 4 NIC and VAT to be acounted for, where applicable.

[peter thomson]

The receipt Keith received for his car was as a private sale and sold as seen.


Assuming it was not a trade sale (not very likely), the new buyer will be getting the benefit of the consumer protection laws (Sale of Goods Acts, Misrepresentation Act etc). So if the mapping etc does prove a problem, it could be costly for the seller.

Then there is Income Tax, Class 4 NIC and VAT to be acounted for, where applicable.

[Nutter_John]

A trader that advertises as a trader on any media can not sell a car as sold as seen .

[Paul C]

Did Someone off here purchase it?

[Rambaud]

A trader that advertises as a trader on any media can not sell a car as sold as seen .

I would agree. There could be an exception for the sale of his/her personal car - but that does not apply here.

IIRC, it may even be unlawful for a dealer/trader to even use the words "sold as seen".

[TORQUE OF THE DEVIL]

Look guys i know your only trying to look out for each other here and i completely understand

Firstly i have notified the buyer before he even committed himself in buying the vehicle, that it could do with a map so it runs perfect

I have given the new owner Ben's number (EUROSPEC) and advised him that it will need mappimg hence the cheap price.

I have sold alot of legnums and quite alot of the new customers are given full on information regarding the cvr4 forum.

If i was a dodgy dealer than the last thing i would do is give them details regarding this forum, and if the cars were bad than everyone who had bought a car from me could slag me off on here.

I deliberately help and provide as much after sales service and alot of customers that are on here can vouch for this.

"peter thomson" I dont understand why you even mention what i wrote on my receipt, when you contacted me and told me that the seal was leaking on the gearbox i immediately got in touch and we resolved the situation and i even did you a paypal transfer (gave you some money back)

So if i was a bad/dodgy trader i could have stuck with the receipt and invoice and said "sorry mate sold as seen" BUT i didnt. So what is the point being negative and trying to make something out of nothing eventhough you had another forum member you and your brother throughly check the car from top to bottom and even checked the gearbox seal and it wasnt leaking at the point of sale before or after the test drive.

Thats all i have to say, i just hate negative comments and everyone starts coming up with their own conclusions and making mountains out of molehills, when i am doing all i can and being honest.

ANYWAY, The reason why i didnt mention that it needed mapping is because, If i start mentioning all the negative points in my add it will stop me getting customers so i work my business a different way and have a different sales approach. I mention the negative points over the phone so i can also give a solution to the problem aswel, this works out much better for me as its best to speak to someone over the fone and give an explanation.

Zee
07882980523
PHAT "N" MODIFIED

[ianturbo]

its still on the bay , http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1997-GALANT-VR4-TYPE-S-HIGHLY-MODIFIED-330-BHP_W0QQitemZ280301687248.
and another one , must be its brother
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MITSUBISHI-VR4-260bhp-2-5-Litre-Twin-Turbo_W0QQitemZ140294850768QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAuto mobiles_UK?hash=item140294850768&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318
ian

[peter thomson]

I'll respond to this in a thread of it's own with our thoughts on our own experience with Zee at the weekend.



"peter thomson" I dont understand why you even mention what i wrote on my receipt, when you contacted me and told me that the seal was leaking on the gearbox i immediately got in touch and we resolved the situation and i even did you a paypal transfer (gave you some money back)

[Axeboy]

Ahh

VERY similar reg plate, comedy.

The second one was a high price at the start 5 or 6k if i remember correctly.

Nice chap when I messaged him previously.

[TORQUE OF THE DEVIL]

I'll respond to this in a thread of it's own with our thoughts on our own experience with Zee at the weekend.

OK Mate

[elnevio]

Good to see you on here and responding Zee. That can only be a good thing :)


That second Galant Ian's posted does indeed have an astonishingly similar reg! Interesting interior - quite like the red panels, although I'd have to ditch the red car mats though! Personal choice I guess. Still, he has only claimed 260 bhp, and I think it looks quite tidy!

Does anyone recognise the car? / Is it anyone's on here?

[Nick Mann]

Full marks to you Zee for the post at the bottom of the last page.

We don't seem to have much luck with Japanese importers and the VR4. The only people ever to get repeat recommendations are Newera. If you can keep logical explanations coming and prove you are an honest trader, it will be refreshing change from other traders that we have seen slowly developing a worse and worse reputation.

[TORQUE OF THE DEVIL]

I am on here as i am a genuine LEGNUM / GALANT VR4 enthusiat

I also sell the cars and take alot of time and effort in making them look decent and 100%

Have a look at the caliber of cars i sell and anyone is invited to check any of my cars out any time as i have nothing to hide

I just hate negative comments as i treat my customers with respect and am not a pushy salesman.

At the end of the day the car will sell itself.

[ANTHONY]

I am on here as i am a genuine LEGNUM / GALANT VR4 enthusiat

I also sell the cars and take alot of time and effort in making them look decent and 100%

Have a look at the caliber of cars i sell and anyone is invited to check any of my cars out any time as i have nothing to hide

I just hate negative comments as i treat my customers with respect and am not a pushy salesman.

At the end of the day the car will sell itself.thats very god to here

[Turbo_Steve]

Zee,
From what I've seen you sell some pretty good cars that have the occasional problem that you work at remediating.

Your umbridge at criticism alone implies you care about what you do, which means a lot in these days of e-bay.

I think you have a small PR problem, though, which you're working well to rectify by communicating with the club.

The only suggestion I can make is that when you post up an Ad on e-bay, you perhaps put it on here as well with the opportunity for the club to answer questions: would save a lot of debate.

In fact, the other possibility is that you get yourself registered as a trader, and ask for your own sticky thread, or forum, or something, where people know they can find you and ask questions.

Chances are it will only help business, can't see it hindering it if we're all on your side? You'll also get the benefit of our problem solving skills etc....it's working out well for VR4WGN.

Just a suggestion?

[rees]

Zee,
From what I've seen you sell some pretty good cars that have the occasional problem that you work at remediating.

Your umbridge at criticism alone implies you care about what you do, which means a lot in these days of e-bay.

I think you have a small PR problem, though, which you're working well to rectify by communicating with the club.

The only suggestion I can make is that when you post up an Ad on e-bay, you perhaps put it on here as well with the opportunity for the club to answer questions: would save a lot of debate.

In fact, the other possibility is that you get yourself registered as a trader, and ask for your own sticky thread, or forum, or something, where people know they can find you and ask questions.

Chances are it will only help business, can't see it hindering it if we're all on your side? You'll also get the benefit of our problem solving skills etc....it's working out well for VR4WGN.

Just a suggestion?


what he said ^

some good advice if u ask me...

[peter thomson]

Looks like the new owner has decided to sell it on

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GALANT-VR4-HIGHLY-MODIFIED-330-BHP-1997_W0QQitemZ110348363318QQihZ001QQcategoryZ18230 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ritch_w]

Looks like the new owner has decided to sell it on

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GALANT-VR4-HIGHLY-MODIFIED-330-BHP-1997_W0QQitemZ110348363318QQihZ001QQcategoryZ18230 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


hmmm another "trader"???? "THE POWER IS AWESOME AND BY FAR THE FASTEST VR4 I HAVE DRIVEN/SOLD"

[peter thomson]

hmmm another "trader"???? "THE POWER IS AWESOME AND BY FAR THE FASTEST VR4 I HAVE DRIVEN/SOLD"

I think he has just copied and pasted Zee's ebay advert Ritchie without changing it but it does make him look like a trader leaving that in

[rees]

the question is ...why has he sold it on ? :inquisiti :inquisiti :inquisiti

[peter thomson]

the question is ...why has he sold it on ? :inquisiti :inquisiti :inquisiti

Probably because of this. Though Zee said he told the buyer?

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=400691&postcount=102