FS: 6 x NGK PFR6G-11 Spark Plugs, NEW

[ouijabored]

My Galant is being sold as the gearbox is dodgy and I am purchasing a smaller auto for my wife to learn to drive in. (I will get a new toy when she passes her test) I have 6 brand new spark plugs still in the boxes if anyone is interested. I paid around £60 inc delivery and I am looking for £45 inc delivery for them. Payment by Paypal.

[gallvr4]

My Galant is being sold as the gearbox is dodgy and I am purchasing a smaller auto for my wife to learn to drive in. (I will get a new toy when she passes her test) I have 6 brand new spark plugs still in the boxes if anyone is interested. I paid around £60 inc delivery and I am looking for £45 inc delivery for them. Payment by Paypal.

dose £45 include deliver to ireland....if so i'll take them,brendan

[elnevio]

Brendan, these are gapped to 1.1mm and aren't suitable for the VR-4, which should have plugs gapped to 0.8mm.

They are however highly suitable for the N/A V6! :thumbsup:

[gallvr4]

Brendan, these are gapped to 1.1mm and aren't suitable for the VR-4, which should have plugs gapped to 0.8mm.

They are however highly suitable for the N/A V6! :thumbsup:

:oops: this is why i love this site....knowledge is priceless,thanks very much for that:2thumbsup ...ya learn something new everyday as they say.sorry ouijabored for the mistake...! brendan

[AlanDITD]

Just regap them can you not?

[elnevio]

I'm sure that it's not recommended. Not sure of the reasoning, but definitely with iridiums, and probably with platinums, regapping is not recommended. Gapping is fine with coppers, I would have thought. I guess it's something to do with the hardness of the metal in question, and regapping may cause microfractures in harder metals, which I expect wouldn't be good for carrying precise electric charges.

Any knowledgeable ones able to provide enlightenment?

[AlanDITD]

Had a quick look on the world wide web, and you are 100% correct. Didnt know that.

Cheers El

[Joikale]

Bloody hell I think I have the wrong plugs in right now... Got to change 'em then

[wannis]

hi ya, are these still for sale??

cheers

[ouijabored]

hi ya, are these still for sale??

cheers


Sure are. I have PM'd you.

[ouijabored]

Any takers before they go on ebay?

[Dom B]

what are the correct plugs for a legnum then?

[peter thomson]

what are the correct plugs for a legnum then?

NGK BKR6EIX or BKR7EIX if you have upped the boost. Gap is 0.8mm

[AlanDITD]

been recommened to me to close the gap to 0.7m with the boost up. Guessing this is to stop the spark being blown out as easily.

Any opinions? i havent done this yet.

[Ryan]

been recommened to me to close the gap to 0.7m with the boost up. Guessing this is to stop the spark being blown out as easily.

Any opinions? i havent done this yet.

I think 0.8mm has been pretty tried and tested here.

[Dom B]

Electricity if a funny thing though. The wider the gap the higher the voltage potential that builds up to before the gap breaks down and the spark happens. Sometimes a bigger gap can yield more energy in a spark provided the ignition system can supply it. Surface discharge plugs are awesome in some of our kart engines and they only use magneto ignition.

Even better my alfa uses lodge 2hl plugs which are like surface discharge with flat plates pointing to the electrode. I think they stopped making them now sadly, but they are far better than super 4 plugs etc as they don't shroud the electrode and create some good turbulence right near the electrode. You never gap a 2hl as you cant. I will post a pic later if i can just out of fun as they are an interesting plug.

One manufacturer that really interests me is Brisk Spark plugs. They have some really innovative designs like the halo and the stack plug etc claimed to give better efficiency and power. Apparently the plugs we all know and use are still being made on the same machinery that was built 50-60 years ago so basicially nothing has changed.

Also search firestorm plug for something really weird and wacky that sounds good.

Even pulse plug although these are expensive, they contain a gap inside then and a capacitor to act like a CDI ingnition and make the spark hotter.

[Dom B]

I have seen NGK PFR6J-11 recommended for the vr4 is this right?

[elnevio]

I have seen NGK PFR6J-11 recommended for the vr4 is this right?
/pan

Read post three above!!

[Dom B]

That post is about pfr6G-11 i said 6J-11, what does the G and J signify???

I am holding the NGK catalogue and they say it is suitable and whats more they are not gapped, the cat says you gap them yourself. The ones that are gapped in the catalogue have the dimension the ones that aren't gapped have an X meaning you gap them yourself.

PFR6J-11 is a copper core plug so isn't really relevant to that discussion about not gapping iridium plugs.

It's all so confusing i could do with a ngk part number decoder. there isn't one in the catalogue unfortunately.

[elnevio]

Get 'em, put 'em in.

NGK make spark plugs, I don't. They know more about spark plugs than me.

Feel free to ignore the masses of information on this website regarding items specific to our application.

[Nutter_John]

but but but but but surely you can get better fuel eccomany by maximinzing the spark plug tolerances

I second Nev's statement

[Dom B]

Nobody has actually answered the question yet. What is the difference between the 6J and the 6G. Maybe i am being thick.

It might just be a difference in the thread or something simple like that.


Get 'em, put 'em in.

NGK make spark plugs, I don't. They know more about spark plugs than me.

Feel free to ignore the masses of information on this website regarding items specific to our application.

I totally agree, so when NGK recommend a plug for a car i tend to believe them. I don't want to 'get them' or 'put them in' as i don't need them at the moment. I happen to have hundreds of them in original Mitsubishi packaging and was trying to find out which cars would want them so i can dish them out on here. Nevermind./pan

[peter thomson]

[quote=Dom B]Nobody has actually answered the question yet. What is the difference between the 6J and the 6G. Maybe i am being thick.
quote]

Both are equivalent to BKR6EIx so there can't be that great a difference between the 2 .The difference is in the thread 14mm compared to 12

[Dom B]

Thanks pete, if i find a NGK decode key i will post it here in case it is any help to others.

[ouijabored]

So is anyone gonna buy them rather than discuss them????????

[ANTHONY]

i got mine from here.search for VR4 and it will give you the CORRECT plug.
http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/


sorry for the hijack good luck with the sale

[Dom B]

Ooo cheers Anthony, here is the ngk decode from that website.

http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/pages/technical/NGK-spark-plug-code.htm

[WildCards]

Just a heads up, if anyone's buying the cheaper BCPR6ES-11 plugs, they're £1.75 inc VAT from Neo Brothers (http://www.neobrothers.co.uk/spark-plugs-c-225_744_867.html).

They don't sell the pricier PFR6A-11 VR4 fitment plugs though, only PFR6H-10.

[dinger1983]

have i been dun buying these

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MITSUBISHI-LEGNUM-GALANT-VR4-NGK-IRIDIUM-IX-SPARK-PLUGS_W0QQitemZ120517441977QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1c0f6639b9

[TAR]

that would depend entirely on what they send you!

:happy:

[peter thomson]

Sparkplugs.co.uk are only just over £44 delivered

[Ryan]

Without sounding like a stuck record, I have the BKR6EIX's in my car with a 0.8mm gap. These are a range warmer than the BKR7EIX's... Are we absolutely certain that these are recommended to be used in a high boost application? :huh: