FS: 1997 Mitsubishi Legnum VR-4 Leather, Cumbria

[Piers1989]

Unfortunatley due to my gearbox breaking and the warranty cover not paying out due to the nature of the damage and refusing to refund my policy as i have processed a claim(/bat) I can't afford to get the car repaired.

Other than this the car runs fine, it has just over 130,000km on it, was imported in december last year, has just had a new cambelt, has had a service and has full japaneese service history.

YEAR:1997
COLOUR: Silver
MILEAGE: 82000
R.F.L. EXPIRY DATE: 10 months remaining
M.O.T. EXPIRY DATE: mid november

It has cream leather seats, electric moonroof and the 10 cd changer, along with upgraded alpine speakers. The interior is in good conditiion for the age, the only place with significant wear is the side of the drivers seat. It has a remote central locking system with remote start and pager function so the car can alert you if the alarm is going off at the keys.

The car has also just had a new battery and was given iridium spark plugs in its service. It also comes with the original alloys and a set of 4 generic 5 spoke ones. It has good 4 tyres with plenty of tread. The only thing that needs looking at is the car is overfueling. This isnt dangerous for the car but it means its runnig lean costing you more in fuel and decreasing the power output. The garage thinks this is probably just down to a faulty lambda sensor somewhere as they can't find a problem with the engine or turbos.

Everything else is standard on the car.

The paint is in good condition apart from some light flaking ont he front left wing and slight scuffs on the rear and front bumper (there prior to purchase).

I have been advised for a car like this with full service history, only imported last december and the cambelt just changed (a £400 job) and with almost a years full tax, I should be looking around £2200 for the car in its current condition.

If anyone is interested I can supply the car with a new gearbox *READY TO BE PUT IN* for £2550.

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Thanks for your time.

If you want to contact me directly im usually availible in mornings or between 9pm-11pm. Text or call 07834 807362.

(this week not mornings but anytime after 5)

*can somebody delete the old FS post please, its out of date*

EDIT: I would rather not sell the numberplate (L337 HAX) with the car but i would get it re registered for the new owner.

[AlanDITD]

Eh they never paid out? What was the point in there cover then?

Also how hard can it be to change a gearbox? If anyone round manchester knows there way with tools and can go to piers ill come down as well and between thre of us surely we can swap it over??

[Piers1989]

Eh they never paid out? What was the point in there cover then?

They decided the damage was longstading prior to the purchase of the vehicle and as such refused to pay out.

"Also how hard can it be to change a gearbox? If anyone round manchester knows there way with tools and can go to piers ill come down as well and between thre of us surely we can swap it over??"

If this was possible i would be very happy with this - the problem I have is I cant afford the £450 labour to do the job - I already have to pay the garage £200 of that for removing the box :S I need the car either fixed or replaced before august 6th as im driving down to i37 with 2 friends, camping equipment and all of our computers/screens etc.

[AlanDITD]

They decided the damage was longstading prior to the purchase of the vehicle and as such refused to pay out.

And ws it? even if it was can they prove that? IIRC there was a minor issue caused by the garage that replaced the TC seal but thats hardly catostrophic gearbox failure.

Feel sorry for ya man, would be a shame to sell over lack of money to repair it.

[PaddyB]

Eh they never paid out? What was the point in there cover then?

Also how hard can it be to change a gearbox? If anyone round manchester knows there way with tools and can go to piers ill come down as well and between thre of us surely we can swap it over??

Is there an 'intervention' in the offing. I'm round Manchester & I'm up for it - prolly can't do it before August 6th & it should be known that I've never attempted such a job before but I'm willing to learn. EDIT: I'll certainly need some (experienced) help.

I'd hate to see a member lose their car because they can't afford to fix it. Fecking robbing warranty ba$tards.

[AlanDITD]

Is there an 'intervention' in the offing. I'm round Manchester & I'm up for it - prolly can't do it before August 6th & it should be known that I've never attempted such a job before but I'm willing to learn. EDIT: I'll certainly need some (experienced) help.

I'd hate to see a member lose their car because they can't afford to fix it. Fecking robbing warranty ba$tards.

Well im no expert either, christ i know nothing about cars tbh. But its only nuts and bolts and there are plenty of people on here to call for advice etc etc.

However it would be better to have someone there that is at least a mecanic of some description, or maybe who has done it before. Basically to stop as getting there and all standing scratching our heads for hours.

Piers do you have the abilty to transport the car?

[elnevio]

*can somebody delete the old FS post please, its out of date*
Sorted! :thumbsup:

Good luck with the sale! Or I hope folks can team up and sort your new box out! /grouphug

[Piers1989]

Piers do you have the abilty to transport the car?

i think its possible to tow the car without a gearbox in - however it creates a problem as the engine is currently only held in by a large belt and clamp i believe and also thats released the front suspension so its stupidly high.

Basically thats a no.

I could try and ask the garage if we could hire the lift and work area for x amount of time, but realistically it would probably not work out much cheaper than getting them to do it and it would also cost everyone travel - not to mention im pretty sure they would say no as i doubt they'd be insurance covered for that.

[aboo]

There's a good write up on here how to change the box. The only thing that put me off doing my TC seal myself was that you have to drop the engine on one side to get the box out.

[bradc]

I'd go back to the insurance company's office and not leave until I either got the money or was escorted off the premises by the police. FIGHT THEM!!

[Piers1989]

I'd go back to the insurance company's office and not leave until I either got the money or was escorted off the premises by the police. FIGHT THEM!!

Thats probably a long way away and if it is in the terms and conditions as they said there wont be much i can do to get my money back.

[bradc]

Manual converison?

[Piers1989]

Manual converison?

If i cant aford putting an auto box in which is jsut a matter of having it done where am i going to get the extra k from to do that lol. It would be good for anyone looking to do one but i jsut dont have the money.

[elnevio]

Thats probably a long way away and if it is in the terms and conditions as they said there wont be much i can do to get my money back.
If any consumer contract has onerous terms in, they MUST be brought to the attention of the consumer*. Did they?

*Usual disclaimer about taking independent advice, etc., etc.

[Piers1989]

If any consumer contract has onerous terms in, they MUST be brought to the attention of the consumer*. Did they?

*Usual disclaimer about taking independent advice, etc., etc.

Im doing training in a call centre right now and one of the departments is customer advice from trading standards - ill ask them.

[pitslayer]

£2200 without a gearbox non running?

As for the warranty claim, you wont get anywhere with them, been there before with a diff issue on our old Jeep, wouldnt pay out due to some clause, they probably wont pay out here either

[Nutter_John]

for once I am affraid I agree with Kylie £2200 for a non runner in bits very high

in the last month we have had 3 leggy's go for sale at 1200 or less , all of them had tax mot and 2 of the 3 were drivable ( the one that was not driveable was a £150 fix and 2hrs max ) , where as yours is a 5 -10 hr fix time + fuilds

Maybe worth scrimping and saving to get the money togethor to then sell her

[pitslayer]

for once I am affraid I agree with Kyle

quoted for posterity, carry on /lol

[mesobitchy]

gear box should be easy to do, hell iv done a few in my time, okies not on one of these cars but its fairly stright forward!

[pitslayer]

gear box should be easy to do, hell iv done a few in my time, okies not on one of these cars but its fairly stright forward!
Like John said your looking upto 10 hour fix time on it, now if you weigh up the options
£2200 for car
£200 transport to get to a garage/pick up take home(rough guess)
£50 per hour x10 =500 to put gearbox in

You would be spending close to 3k to get it running (including car), even if you did it yourself you would need the tools and know how on doing it, where as you could spend around 3k on a working car, I think I just saw one for sale for £1700 working

[Piers1989]

Like John said your looking upto 10 hour fix time on it, now if you weigh up the options
£2200 for car
£200 transport to get to a garage/pick up take home(rough guess)
£50 per hour x10 =500 to put gearbox in

You would be spending close to 3k to get it running (including car), even if you did it yourself you would need the tools and know how on doing it, where as you could spend around 3k on a working car, I think I just saw one for sale for £1700 working
I was advised by one of the founding members here that a car with full service history and reasonable milage with a brand new cambelt worth over 400 quid i shudnt sell for under 2k even without the box. the cars already at a garage and and local garage charges closer to £30/hour.

[elnevio]

I agree Piers to some extent. 'Working' can have a fairly flexible definition. I'd happily pay more for one that I knew had all the relevant fluids changed to decent oils, etc.

Buying one of the recent cheapo ones is a bit of pot luck if you ask me - but still sometimes worth a punt. Different people look for different things!

[pitslayer]

I agree Piers to some extent. 'Working' can have a fairly flexible definition. I'd happily pay more for one that I knew had all the relevant fluids changed to decent oils, etc.

Buying one of the recent cheapo ones is a bit of pot luck if you ask me - but still sometimes worth a punt. Different people look for different things!
Yes but that new gearbox will need good fluids aswell now, and fitting, and trailering to a garage or where ever to do it

[elnevio]

that new gearbox will need good fluids aswell now
Not necessarily. I believe it already has Amsoil ATF in it? This can be drained out, sieved, and reused, if it's still ok.

[Nutter_John]

Not necessarily. I believe it already has Amsoil ATF in it? This can be drained out, sieved, and reused, if it's still ok.

Nev the box is out of the car so it is down to the garage that removed it as to it's storage conditions .

Also I would be very very worrid about moving the car whilst only one mount is holding the engine in place

sorry not trying to put people off Piers / Nev just a case of eyes wide open

SO PLEASE delete my comments if you want

[elnevio]

Piers - up to you if you want this cleaned up?

[Piers1989]

Just ordered teh new box today, should be shiped out today and fitted tuesday, ordered my amsoil yesterday too.

Also, I jsut spoke to the senior claims engineer (claims manager) at Warranty Direct, to re-explain whats happened so he can make a final decision about if its covered or not.

He sounded like he is going to take everything into consideration and was very surprised when I told him I has sourced another box at such little cost.

He will be calling back today/tomorrow with his decision, but if he does change his mind and covers it - YAY MORE CAR THINGS :D

New tryes for start :D

[White Lightning]

Fingers crossed for you Peirs

[Piers1989]

Fingers crossed for you Peirs

Ive spoken too him again now, hes agreed that all i have to do now is send him the sheet from the RAC recovery and he'll forward it to their underwriter to make the decision.

[PaddyB]

Also got my fingers crossed for you - because if anyone needs new tyres it's you /Steeringw

Glad your getting it fixed & hopefully it'll be trouble free from here on.

[Piers1989]

ill be keeping the all terains on 2 different wheels so i can swap em onto the back for fun when its wet ;)