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Ryan
09-12-2009, 07:27 PM
New specialist traffic officers will be used to issue speeding tickets, freeing police to concentrate on fighting crime.

And in another high-level proposal, up to 40 per cent of police in main cities will no longer be able to use guns - a move away from the current system, which gives firearms training to every officer.

The new-look "transport enforcement officers" proposal will effectively be a return to the separate traffic control force that patrolled the country's roads in black-and-white cars until the early 1990s.

Those officers were part of the Ministry of Transport; the new traffic officers will remain under the control of the police force.

They will have the authority to stop cars, but will lack the powers of a sworn constable.

Police Commissioner Howard Broad yesterday said he was "quite uncomfortable" with fully sworn police being used for road policing, as they were often just "sitting there with their radar gun".

He told Parliament's law and order select committee he wanted to use laws that allowed him to designate traffic enforcement officers, and also make greater use of technology such as speed cameras for road policing.


The move would free police officers for other duties, such as neighbourhood policing, he said.

Civilians are now used to operate speed camera vans, but using a radar gun requires a police officer with power to stop a vehicle.

Mr Broad said he could give these limited powers under the Policing Act's "authorised officers" section, and some motorway support officers in Auckland were already operating under this designation.

No timeframe was given for the move, but Mr Broad said last night that there needed to be a national discussion about the "optimum mix" of sworn officers, authorised officers and speed cameras for road policing.

Police Association president Greg O'Connor praised the commissioner's "brave call", which he said was a tacit admission that the 1992 merger of Ministry of Transport officers with the police was a mistake.

Until the merger, the public's only dealings with the police were as victims of crime, and so there was a greater respect for them, he said.

Traffic policing had been controversial, particularly because of allegations of police "ticket quotas".

While the public would still get caught for speeding, they would like the new system as it would free more police for crime-fighting.

Mr Broad also revealed a proposal to end firearms training for officers unlikely to require it, but increase it for those most likely to find themselves in dangerous situations.

Under the proposal, 40 per cent of Auckland police would not be able to use firearms. They would be trained only in use of the baton and pepper spray.

A critical response unit would be established to deal with call-outs.

Labour MP Clayton Cosgrove said the proposal could create problems, such as a community constable not being able to respond to an armed robbery because he could not use firearms.

Mr Broad said officers with low-level firearms training were often more likely to be killed, and he asked if Mr Cosgrove wanted officers trained in "gunfight protocol".

"The idea you send a community constable into these situations as if they are Wyatt Earp is complete nonsense."

Mr Broad became heated when the Napier siege - in which Jan Molenaar shot one officer dead and seriously wounded two others - was raised.

"Those police officers who did go in there [to rescue the wounded] without firearms, went in on humanitarian grounds, and they recovered people," he said.

"They did an extremely good job in an extremely courageous way. They did not need to have firearms to do that."

Mr O'Connor said the firearms policy was "a recipe for disaster" that would leave the police "out-gunned".

source: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10614504&pnum=0

djb160
09-12-2009, 10:58 PM
That is FING brilliant

/applaude

Subaru ETA
09-12-2009, 11:48 PM
brilliant idea!

wintertidenz
09-12-2009, 11:58 PM
Maybe we will have traffic cops that actually KNOW what they're talking about when they pull someone over now? :)

Subaru ETA
10-12-2009, 12:01 AM
i would actually consider joining if this does go ahead

Ryan
10-12-2009, 12:05 AM
i would actually consider joining if this does go ahead

Joining? Joining what Dave? :uhoh:

Subaru ETA
10-12-2009, 12:13 AM
the traffic cop part. back in the day when they had MOT and police it was ALOT better.

at the moment the guy doing traffic are new recruits and old guys. the new recruits let the power get to there head and the older guys are the bitter ones who are too unfit to pass the physicals!

plus back in the day the people who were doing traffic really wanted to be doing traffic and generally had a knowledge of cars