View Full Version : Trademe is still full of idiots....
How much do you think this would really be worth...
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/VR4/auction-265084778.htm
Realistically, Mods do not add value to the price of the car...
scott.mohekey
22-01-2010, 12:47 AM
Realistically, Mods do not add value to the price of the car...
Don't tell Quinten that.
Well, it's true, Modifications theoretically make a car worth less, due to it not being stock. But of course people always want to recoup what they have spent on a car, which is kinda stupid really, they aren't an investment when they have been modded.
scott.mohekey
22-01-2010, 12:53 AM
Exactly. You're better off keeping all the stock parts and then selling the after market parts separately if you do sell.
mattnz
22-01-2010, 01:21 AM
Gap between the bonnet and front right quarter doesn't inspire confidence.
scott.mohekey
22-01-2010, 01:34 AM
Custom air vent.
lol scott, you see he thinks it's faster than an evo 6 in the questions.
One thing that really irks me is that they try to sell it for that much, but you couldn't get insured for that, or even valued at that price.
It's all personal value, i mean if he wants 9k for it and the other one i have seen wants 15k for his 7g then mine must be worth 30k with everything i have done.
VR4WGN
22-01-2010, 02:30 AM
Don't tell Quinten that.
meaning??:karate:
Rossco Type-S
22-01-2010, 05:30 AM
Biggest problem is that the 6A12TT was a dog of an engine
Subaru ETA
22-01-2010, 05:39 AM
im over trade me - way too many idiots... esp people who are buying! hence why im prob going to take the hit and trade my vr4 this weekend...cant be bothered with all the stupid time wasters
Rossco Type-S
22-01-2010, 05:41 AM
im over trade me - way too many idiots... esp people who are buying! hence why im prob going to take the hit and trade my vr4 this weekend...cant be bothered with all the stupid time wasters
Its not just trade me... it is society as a whole!
I keep putting off listing my VR4 for the same reason
Subaru ETA
22-01-2010, 05:45 AM
i put the wifes car up just over a year ago for $2000 buy now. endless offers of $900 and swaps for DX corollas and the like even tho it said no swaps! then leaving work early to meet people who didnt show... it was just a pain in the arse
The 7G just never seems to have a high value.. well compared to a 6G and an 8G at least. 6G especially seems to have held their value well, most of them are on the upward climb value wise and there's still a bit of a demand for them.
It's funny how there's not much in it seperating a 6G and 8G price wise.
KiwiTT
23-01-2010, 09:02 AM
take the hit and trade my vr4 this weekendI may have missed something ... Why are you selling ?
You know the VR-4 can never be replaced :D
scott.mohekey
23-01-2010, 04:22 PM
Kayne isn't selling. This is some one else that thinks they have a milliion dollar car.
bradc
23-01-2010, 08:23 PM
I don't see why 6G's are worth a whole lot. They have less power, less creature comforts, are old, etc etc.
confusis
23-01-2010, 08:42 PM
They're the black sheep of the family.
I saw a 6G today in silver. It was a minter & the guy driving it was about 80.
Did'nt see what engine it had but it was nice.
Sorry for the thread hijack.
Rossco Type-S
23-01-2010, 11:37 PM
I don't see why 6G's are worth a whole lot. They have less power, less creature comforts, are old, etc etc.
Simple: 4G63T
scott.mohekey
23-01-2010, 11:57 PM
Simple: 4G63T
Spot on.
I wouldn't mind a 7G Galant with panels from the front half of an 8G, running a 4g93T.
Fully
24-01-2010, 12:18 AM
Then mine must be worth 30k with everything i have done.
A bit under valued there bro you forgot my labour :p
:mexicanwav
I don't see why 6G's are worth a whole lot. They have less power, less creature comforts, are old, etc etc.
Put it simply, the 6G has motorsport pedigree in both rally (WRC where it was successful, BTCC where it wasn't so much) which the 7G and 8G lack, the 4G63 engine while it may make less power in stock form can withstand a great deal more power out of the box and it is really cheap to modify - can you honestly say you can push out 400hp on stock bottom end with a 6A12/6A13 engine as you can with a 4G63?
Another way to put it simply - how many 7G and 8G VR-4s are in the 9s and 10s? Now ask that same question for the 6G.
Yes they're old, but they're still a cult car and the fact that they are old makes it even harder to find one in decent condition, and therefore the prices get driven up. Put it this way, over five years ago you could pick up a tidy one fresh off the boat from Japan for around $5-7k, now that same money barely gets you a nice tidy one. I paid $7k for mine and it was an absolute steel, another similar spec genuine Evo VR-4 in the same colour with slightly lower kms sold for $9.5k not long ago.
They're in the same category as Lancer Evolutions really, just the bigger heavier predecessor to them. Once the 7G VR-4 came along, the VR-4 kind of branched away from a proven thoroughbred rally machine to a more smoother and road orientated cruiser.
Does that answer your question? :P
bradc
24-01-2010, 07:30 AM
I do know that the 4G63T is obviously very easy to bolt a bigger turbo on, but I'd argue that my car with 228kw ATW has in the region of 400hp and it works just fine on a completely stock engine!
I also agree with the fact that a 4G63T is rather easy to find parts for, strengthen etc.
What I don't understand is why anyone would pay virtually the same amount for a 6G as an 8G! The 8G in stock form has a lot more power, torque, a much better drivetrain setup and of course it does use an EVO gearbox, transfer case and diff, and is a whole lot more comfortable. It is also possible with a boost controller and exhaust to get in the region of 215kw-220kw and around 440nm of torque, I don't beleive that is possible on a 6G for $500 or less.
Sure it is - boost boost and more boost.
As I said, stock for stock the 8G is better, but you would expect so being 10 years newer. But as I've outlined, the 6G has a cult following, more so than an 8G, probably because they did pretty well in the WRC along with the Lancer Evo series.
You don't buy a 6G for its comfort, smoothness and stock power/torque figure, you buy one because you've always had a soft spot for them or you plan on forging the engine and laying down low ET's at the 1/4 mile strip.
Would you agree that about 400hp at the wheels is verging on the limit of what the 6A13TT can chuck out before you run into reliability issues?
Rossco Type-S
24-01-2010, 09:34 AM
I do know that the 4G63T is obviously very easy to bolt a bigger turbo on, but I'd argue that my car with 228kw ATW has in the region of 400hp and it works just fine on a completely stock engine!
I also agree with the fact that a 4G63T is rather easy to find parts for, strengthen etc.
What I don't understand is why anyone would pay virtually the same amount for a 6G as an 8G! The 8G in stock form has a lot more power, torque, a much better drivetrain setup and of course it does use an EVO gearbox, transfer case and diff, and is a whole lot more comfortable. It is also possible with a boost controller and exhaust to get in the region of 215kw-220kw and around 440nm of torque, I don't beleive that is possible on a 6G for $500 or less.
I personally hate the look and feel of a 6G and would go for an 8g over one anyday.
Not sure about your final comment though. I believe a 6G runs a TD05, albiet with a smaller compressor than found on later model EVOs, so with an exhaust upgrade and a boost controller it will be capable of something in the region of 21psi and therefore decent power/torque.
Normal VR-4 has a TD05-14B while an Evolution VR-4 has the same TD05-16G turbo as the Evo1/2.
Ps, where do you think the 8G got its styling cues from? Yep, the 6G.
bradc
24-01-2010, 10:07 AM
And the EVO X got its styling queues from the 8G :D
confusis
24-01-2010, 10:44 AM
Trademe 6g special:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-265192985.htm
thfelipeth
24-01-2010, 12:13 PM
Trademe 6g special:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-265192985.htm OMG! lmao! thats the craziest ride i've seen on trademe lol great find!/woot
mattnz
24-01-2010, 07:57 PM
Trademe 6g special:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-265192985.htm
Lol, if only it had a question section for the obligatory "hi, wut is reqird 4 wof thx?"
maori_by_nature
26-01-2010, 03:17 AM
this made me laugh...
I love it how people offer "CASH".. how else can you pay for a car? hahaha I offer you 6 cows and a tree quiva (16 ) 9:30 pm, Mon 18 Jan
throw in a farm and you got a deal 9:59 pm, Mon 18 Jan
DUZ105 (DUZ10's)
17-02-2010, 05:52 PM
i rekon the 6gs are better. love the look of them when theyre lowered with decent rims, and a massive intercooler hangin off the front. they look so staunch. at the moment mines all engine and no looks. wont be long though :)
oh dear lord I hope you haven't hacked up your bumper just so you could show off a massively over sized fridge hanging off the front of your car.. I don't think anything else could ruin the front any more.
VR4WGN
20-02-2010, 07:34 PM
second that!! my mate owns a car yard and specializes in builfing and sellling htose models and EVERY Bumper he has has been hacked all the way to the spotlights!!
it just looks so rough and shows you can only poorly mount the intercooler.
mattnz
24-02-2010, 01:35 AM
Top specced?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Mitsubishi/auction-268775323.htm
Subaru ETA
24-02-2010, 01:43 AM
lol what an idiot....
oh well at least the price isn't too high like you would expect with someone who thinks it is a model that it isn't.
bradc
24-02-2010, 08:11 AM
I've just asked him what part makes it a Ralliart
elnevio
24-02-2010, 09:12 AM
LOL Brad! /STP
OnBoost!
24-02-2010, 09:21 AM
I've just asked him what part makes it a Ralliart
Your unlikely to get a reply..:laugh:
TradeMe must be really slow or something because it should say "This auction has 1 unanswered question" or something to that effect.
OnBoost!
24-02-2010, 09:28 AM
Isn't it a classified ad?
bradc
24-02-2010, 10:10 AM
Yep, I emailed him.
It's one of the Galants that recieved a "Ralli Art" upgrade kit from mitsubishi about 5 years ago. They were sold as Ralli Art Galants, but were just normal 2.0 Galants with a couple of dress up parts. eg. Ralli art suspension, oil filler cap, some received a strutbrace and badging. They were also supposed to have the Ralli Art stickers running down the side and chrome wheels with Ralli Art emblems on them but most places never put them on.
mattnz
22-06-2010, 01:09 AM
Someone is wrong on the internets again!!
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Nissan/auction-297648275.htm
As quick as VR4 Legnum Turbo
scottie2hotti
22-06-2010, 04:46 AM
lol, didnt realise nissian pulsars could be classed as legnum vr4s
and i reported him, for using irrelevant keywords. :P
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/4/130758704_full.jpg
That looks like two abominable snowmen in the front seats.
bradc
22-06-2010, 08:37 AM
I reckon that Pulsar assuming stock power would do this:
0-60 2.96
0-100 6.48
0-160 15.50
0-400m 14.70
0-1km 26.95
Top Speed 220kmh
A Manual VR-4 would be:
0-60 2.75
0-100 6.09
0-160 14.17
0-400m 14.10
0-1km 25.88
Top Speed 243kmh
mattnz
22-06-2010, 09:52 AM
Apparently they're more 6.8s. I can imagine the power would be pretty peaky, it's a 1600.
bCOiN
23-06-2010, 04:35 AM
hes obviously raced a gdi leggy and won
mattnz
23-06-2010, 05:36 AM
Probably one of those ones advertised on Trademe as "GOT ALL DA LOOKS OF A TURBO BUT REAL GOOD ON GAS!!!!11!"
those VZ-R N1 Pulsars are pretty quick - it's probably the highest hp production 1600cc out of Japan with 190hp (more than VTEC B16A and MIVEC 4G92), and almost as much as the 195hp SR20VE Neo-VVL engine.
OnBoost!
30-06-2010, 09:14 PM
^Yep they are quick,I know a couple of dudes that have 3 of them,1 is the 1.6,and the other two are SR20VE,but because they are na it feels a lot different to a turbo car,you don't get that sudden rush of speed etc.
In saying that I wouldn't want one as my main car,but it would be cool as a second car for work etc...
Subaru ETA
01-07-2010, 05:08 AM
my work mate has a vzr with the SR20VE transplanted into it (the neo engine, like vtec) and it goes ****en hard. when you are hard up it it cherps the tires on the 3rd - 4th gear change. had a couple of goes against him when i had the vr4 and it was pretty close (me on standard boost)
plus back when i was at tech one of the guys had the model before that one with the sr20VE plus upgraded cams, ecu etc. with the vr4 on std boost it shat on me!
mattnz
01-07-2010, 08:49 AM
Should have gone round a corner :p
OnBoost!
01-07-2010, 10:29 AM
The one I was in went round corners real good,but it had ****loads spent on it.
Should have gone round a corner :p
plenty of FWD cars out there which would out-corner a 4WD, easy.
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