Op FMIC

[dinger1983]

ok op fmic begins now this bad boys getting fitted



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up dates to follow

[chiro]

Shiney

[dinger1983]

update its F**KING freezing out there lol came in for some lunch and a cup a tea to heat me up

ok so the grill lights undertray popers and all but 1 bolt is of the bumper
yep its the bolt by the water bottle with a limmited selection of tools at my house i may have to nip into work to get somthing that i can get on that bolt if a small spanner wont do it

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[dinger1983]

update its still bloody freezing see frost on the grass
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ok so the wee spanner worked a treat
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bumper off
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crash bar off

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the intercooler
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off it comes
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new and old
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and thats as far as i got today as i developed a wee problem my 90 degree hose is to short how bloody annoyed am i at the moment

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[dinger1983]

ok so new hose orderd with 4" legs plenty of spare

[crazydriver81]

nice upgrade mate and at least no snow outside. =] Any ideas what you gonna do with the oil cooler tube?

cheers and good luck

[Beastlee]

You should've got yourself in one of those hangers bud. At least it's a little warmer and if it snows your car ain't getting wet LOL

What size are you fitting? I had to modify the front on mine to make it fit with the impact beam in place. I didn't want to modify the beam so I made an adjustment behind the cooler. Still not completely happy with the fit but it works.

[dinger1983]

the size is 600x300x76 and i will be cutting the crash bar to fit

and the pas cooler pipe is getting modified and hidden behind the fmic

[Turbo_Steve]

You could get another dinky cooler (like your mission cooler) for the PAS fluid, and mount in in front of the screenwash bottle, so it gets it's own vent :)

And why not just use the 90degree hose that is already on factory cooler? You could trim it to fit with a stanley knife?

Finally: can you please straighten the numberplate when you refit.....otherwise the car looks immaculate!

[dinger1983]

the old hose wont fit on the intercooler an a better atf cooler is on my list and the small one i have will be used for the pas

[aboo]

Sorry for the thread hijack but Steve would it be a good idea to fit my ATF cooler in front of the water bottle?

[Louis]

I had the same issues as you when i fitted mine.
Mine is a 600x300x76 and I didn't have to cut the crash bar! also I had a bit of a stretch with the 90 deg bend in the same place, but I loosened off the pipe it attaches tp, an fitted the 90deg bend to both pipe and cooler, then manipulated pipe to hose further up, and it all came together. good luck, keep posting the pics, cheers Louis

[dinger1983]

i may give that ago louis iv already bought another but if i dont use it then im sure somone eales could

[aboo]

Finally: can you please straighten the numberplate when you refit.....otherwise the car looks immaculate!

Put a square one on they look better.

[apeman69]

can you please straighten the numberplate when you refit....
Perhaps get a plate that fits in the defined bumper space: using smaller sized characters, similar to Gowf's and mine. Just need to find the lettering specs on DVLA site and ensure that 7 characters will fit inside the space at the correct (legal) size for imported vehicles with a built in number plate space.
I originally had a square plate on the front which looked nice but intruded on the intercooler a bit. If I had a straight plate like yours it would have been changed pronto 'cos I think they look pants on this car!

[dinger1983]

Perhaps get a plate that fits in the defined bumper space: using smaller sized characters, similar to Gowf's and mine. Just need to find the lettering specs on DVLA site and ensure that 7 characters will fit inside the space at the correct (legal) size for imported vehicles with a built in number plate space.
I originally had a square plate on the front which looked nice but intruded on the intercooler a bit. If I had a straight plate like yours it would have been changed pronto 'cos I think they look pants on this car!
the imported plate lettering is a myth mate i got pulled by the police in my integra not 1 month after it was imported for letter spacing and size i phone the garage that sold me it they said the same thing because its an import its allowed different plate i contacted the dvla direct they said that aint true same standard for all cars and sent me out all documents about letterings space and size there are no exemptions for imported cars had to buy new plates

[Turbo_Steve]

Yes, the rules are the same for the lettering sizes, but not the plate size.

Also, it depends on how obvious it is that it isn't strictly legal.


Aboo, you COULD fit it there, but there is so much more useful space behind the passengers side vent? I was planning to fit mine instead of the arch liner (with some mesh to protect it). Air flow in at the front........negative pressure in the wheel well. Allows you a nice big cooler.

How different is the size of the pipe, Scott? I'd be willing to bet the rubber one will stretch a half inch if you put it in some boiling water.

[dinger1983]

ill try moving bits about for the 1 iv got or just wait till the new 1 gets here the old 1 looks bit old and tatty

[aboo]

Aboo, you COULD fit it there, but there is so much more useful space behind the passengers side vent? I was planning to fit mine instead of the arch liner (with some mesh to protect it). Air flow in at the front........negative pressure in the wheel well. Allows you a nice big cooler.

Thanks Steve. Dont want to hijack the thread so I,v pm'd you.

Back on topic.

[apeman69]

the imported plate lettering is a myth mate i got pulled by the police in my integra not 1 month after it was imported for letter spacing and size i phone the garage that sold me it they said the same thing because its an import its allowed different plate i contacted the dvla direct they said that aint true same standard for all cars and sent me out all documents about letterings space and size there are no exemptions for imported cars had to buy new plates
Back off topic: I downloaded a document off the DVLA site before I got my plate made which stated that you can have smaller letters with different spacing to the 'norm' for imported vehicles where the manufacturer's mounting point was smaller than the UK standard. Gowf advised me to get a smaller plate on the front to maximise air flow to the intercooler.
I looked into this beforehand because I, too, was sceptical. I took the document to the plate maker and they read it and agreed to make the plate. Unfortunately I threw the document away after getting the plate done. Car went through MOT this week and no comments about number plate. The lettering on the original plates on my Legnum, which was first registered by Ebony & Ivory, were not to the correct spec (either UK or the import spec I had documented).

The Road Vehicles ( Display of Registration Marks) (Amendment) regulations 2002 SI no. 2687 came into force in November 2002.

These amendment regulations introduce a new regulation 14A, making special provision in relation to the size and spacing of characters in the registration number of some imported vehicles. These regulations also include the display of motorcycle sizes number plates on imported vehicles. The provision only applies to vehicles imported into the UK which do not have European Community Whole Vehicle Type Approval, and are so constructed, that the area available for the fixing of the registration plate precludes the display on the plate of a registration number in conformity with the requirements of regulation 14.

Also contained is an amendment to regulation 3, to prohibit the use of a number plate on which the background is patterned or textured, or gives that appearance.

Where a vehicle has been allocated a UK registration number, the number plate must comply with the specification and standards laid out in the Road Vehicles ( Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001, as amended. Certain imported vehicles may be permitted to display numberplates with smaller characters if the vehicle does not have European Community Vehicle Type Approval and the vehicle's construction/design cannot accommodate standard size numberplates.

The dimensions for the smaller sized plate are:

• each character in the registration number must be 64mm high
the width of each character of the number, other than the letter 'I' and the figure '1' must be 44mm

• the width of every part of the stroke forming a character in a number must be 10mm
the spacing between any two characters within a group must be 10mm

• the vertical spacing between groups of characters must be 5mm

• the width of a margin between the number and the top and lateral sides of the numberplate must be not less than 5mm

• the space between the bottom of the number/character and the bottom of the plate must not be less than 13mm, but within that space, the space between the bottom of the number and the top of the name and postcode of the person the plate was supplied must not be less than 5mm.

:blahblah:
Down to interpretation I suppose.

[dinger1983]

round 2 ding ding

[aboo]

Good luck. Knock it out!!!!

[dinger1983]

well after a bit of arsing around i have come to the conclusion that the car is fighting me lol

but i have achieve a few more wee bits got the intercooler were i want it to be ready for me to dril some holes in my mounts and the car fights back and the drill bat dies on me just waiting on the bat charging
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i know the 90 degree hose is still on there i still dont fit just there for a guide on were the cooler needs to be

but i have also cut the crash bar to fit round the intercooler 1 less thing to do

[Beastlee]

the hose wil stop small animals getting warm in your turbos or inlet manifolod too LOL

[dinger1983]

pas cooler sorted
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[666damned]

looks to be coming along nicely.....keep it up........:)

[ex-derv]

Back off topic: I downloaded a document off the DVLA site ................Down to interpretation I suppose.


ok - read that - does anyone know anything about spacing between groups of letters? I want to run a 5 digit/letter plate on 1 line as close as possible but I live just up the road from Norfolk police :dalek: headquarters so won't get away with it for long if they're not legal.

[apeman69]

Have you tried asking a plate maker to mock it up on the computer, print it on a piece of paper and see if it fits or measure your aperture and compare.
If you've got a 1 or an I in the reg then I think it might fit with standard font size and spacing. You'll get the idea from the pic.

[Atik]

ok - read that - does anyone know anything about spacing between groups of letters? I want to run a 5 digit/letter plate on 1 line as close as possible but I live just up the road from Norfolk police :dalek: headquarters so won't get away with it for long if they're not legal.
You will be totally fine with having a 5 digit/letter numberplate on a smaller sized plate. Effectively what you are after is the UK standard height plate, and Jap standard width plate. As suggested, the best bet is to go to a platemakers and ask for a paper printed mockup and just see if it will fit on the front (I'm certain it will).

The other suggestion is just to get a stock UK plate made up and chop the sides off while retaining enough space to comply with regs. Thats what I did on my plate but my numbers are a fair bit smaller than it should have been as I have a full 7 digit/letter plate.

[ex-derv]

cheers. thought this was interesting - http://www.myshowplates.com/ - not strictly legal but with standard lettering and spacing can't see it being a problem. last off topic I promise!

[dinger1983]

new longer 90 degree reduction hose recevied cant fit tonight as the wife at work and i have the wee man but will start the rebuild of the car tomorrow after work

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[AndyBaird85]

Been busy i see mate, its looking good btw. I'm back next week mate for R&R so i'll pop across. This is defo on my list.....which keeps getting bigger lol

[dinger1983]

Been busy i see mate, its looking good btw. I'm back next week mate for R&R so i'll pop across. This is defo on my list.....which keeps getting bigger lol
you know me mate always doing somthing cant leave a car alone was in at your beasty few weeks ago having a look at were your boost controller is plumbed in when i fitted mine poor we car hidden in an old garage under a dusty old sheet

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[AndyBaird85]

Did you get a smaller oil cooler to put up near your windscreen washer water bottle? do you still have them radiator hoses? i'll have them off you if you have :)

[dinger1983]

i still have the rad hoses top hose is right dont think the bottom hose is right

[dinger1983]

he hey hey were cooking with gas now got my pipe and it on and fits perfect and i the dark too
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after mucking about with the truly crappy looking mounts and fitting the crash bar im happy to say it started first time and no leaks
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i may tidy up the mounts abit but if nobodys gona see them i dont know if i can be arsed
and i didnt forget to fill my pas up either

just the bumper and lights to go but will wait for some daylight for that

[aboo]

Nice one Scott.

[AndyBaird85]

very nice big man, get on the road and get it dyno'd again

[dinger1983]

dyno will be dun just dont know when just need some time to get the bumper on with me working during the day and the wife at night there aint any time cos gotta look after the wee man

[Beastlee]

Wouldn't worry about tidying the brackets up, I didn't and unless I strip the grille off I'll not notice them to do it.
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PS, where did you get your 2 pipes from? I want to replace mine as they aren't in the best condition.

[dinger1983]

ebay job

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[Beastlee]

Thanks

[dinger1983]

im still at work at the moment should get away at about 3 and i realy need the car back topgether but it is p*ssing it down im gona get soar and wet deep joy

[orionn2o]

Sounds like its been a world of pain doing this job ay

[AndyBaird85]

im still at work at the moment should get away at about 3 and i realy need the car back topgether but it is p*ssing it down im gona get soar and wet deep joy
no excuses ...get it done! and get tearing up the road/rally

[dinger1983]

ye i dose get abit soar after a bit an hr or 2s work tends to knack me for a day or 2 after but i have the happy pills if it gets to bad

[dinger1983]

its all just training for op fmic 2 return of the bairdy man

[AndyBaird85]

its all just training for op fmic 2 return of the bairdy man
o yes :5shots:

[dinger1983]

ok after spending few hourlying on the ground in the p*ssing rain you know the fine stuff that sokes you throught i can say im almost dun but i do have somthing that resembles a car and its drivable

only thing i have left to do is the pain in the a*se bolt for the bumper beside the water bottle and i need to sort the lights as my bonnet wont shut right

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[aboo]

Looking good Scott.

[dinger1983]

ye just need a proped drive now see how it gos

[666damned]

top job m8y.........i think i'll do mine when weather perks up(get the ZX9r out)..............

[dinger1983]

whoo hoo boys and girls im finaly dun after the wee man desided that he was getting up at 6.30 this morning i basicly waited till fist bit of light out side and went to work in the p*ssing rain again and after some triming of my intercooler mounts the bonnet shut fine and then about 40mins lying on the deck fiddling with that f**king bolt it dun and as you can see i got a bit damp

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[666damned]

that's dedication...................../woot

[666damned]

quick question scott.............what size is the pipe on the offside.......angle/reducer/length...............

cheers...........dave

[AndyBaird85]

whoo hoo boys and girls im finaly dun after the wee man desided that he was getting up at 6.30 this morning i basicly waited till fist bit of light out side and went to work in the p*ssing rain again and after some triming of my intercooler mounts the bonnet shut fine and then about 40mins lying on the deck fiddling with that f**king bolt it dun and as you can see i got a bit damp

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most work you've done in two years:jester:

[dinger1983]

na u know my wife she hard work↲↲And the pipe are a 90 degree and a 45 degree both with 3" to 2.5" reduction but that depends on your intercooler intakes and as for lenth i cant remember the length of the pipes but get as long as u can cos u can trim 2 fit

[666damned]

cheers scott......was gonna go same route as your goodself............./GJ

[dinger1983]

ok so iv been out for a short run and iv had to wind my boost controller way way down will have to re cal my boost controller when i get the chance but i have a dyno booked for the 16th birthday presant from the wife i hopfuly will have my bat for the lap top so will be able to see what the car is doing and will hopfuly get more than my 321bhp at the fly and 237bhp at the wheels

[Beastlee]

I had to do the same with mine you can get more power at lower boost now though....so I'm told.
What other mods do you have to get it up to 312bhp? Must find a 4 wheel dyno for mine and get some readings given the mods done so far.

[dinger1983]

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ok these are my last dyno results as you can see bit mad at the beggining had a big boost spike but i put that down to the manual boost controller i had fitted
and acording to ben at eurospec i need to add 7% to the figures to account for the auto box loss

but all i fitted is a ralliart pannel filter ,2.5" decat and 3" cat back ss exhaust and manual boost controller

since the last dyno i have changed the boost controller to hks evc 4, sparkplugs ,atf (amsoil) , fitted intercooler and this week im i plan on doing my engine mounts and engine oil again

[Turbo_Steve]

So have you managed to get your boost under control now, dude?

[dinger1983]

So have you managed to get your boost under control now, dude?
no not 100% just turned it all the way down gona reset the controller ant then go from there