4pot Legnums?

[dhutch]

Are there many legnums in the with the inline four pot 4G64 engine?

I like the car a lot, but i little more fuel economy and more reasonable insurance wouldn't go a miss and i would probably bu doing about 20k miles a year and am 23yo.

Edited to add: Something like this http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1554535.htm


Daniel

[bradc]

The 2.4 GDI's have the 4g64 engine and it is a horrid engine with average fuel economy, revs like a diesel and have no power at the top end. It feels like a 1.8 diesel!

If you want a non turbo wagon then what you really want is the 2.5 v6, similar fuel economy, but only requres 95, much more reliable and simple and the best part of their rev range is 5000 to 7000rpm!

[Nutter_John]

Thats the GDI engine . and yes you can get a 2.4 gdi and a 1.8 gdi

although unless you use 99 ron petrol the differnce between the 2.4 and the v6 2.5 in real world use is not very much

[elnevio]

Legnums, *specifically* (i.e. imported estates) were available with the 2.4 GDI 4G64 engine. I believe only in facelift guise and all as autos, but as either FWD or 4WD. All versions extremely rare in the UK.

The same engine was available in UK Galant estates after about 1998/9 or so.


TBH, quite a few bods will suggest the V6 as an option though.

[Kieran]

The 2.0 GLS/Sport, with the 4G63 engine is the ideal cost-concious 8G Galant, though that's a UK-Spec car. You can get it in saloon or estate flavour though. Easier on the wallet in terms of service, fuel and insurance than the V6 (As I am finding, the V6 will chew fuel compared to the GLS if you keep it in town) and unlike the 4G64, it's a sewing machine of an engine. If cost is your biggest worry, that's your best bet.

[Atik]

The ginger one speaketh /notworthy /Devil5

I had one of those mentioned 2.0 GLS Galants in estate form. It was a very comfy car and had nice smooth engine. If the fuel economy and insurance is your big wory, then the GLS is the one for you. You will get marginally better MPG from the 2.0 over the 2.5 engines, but the 2.5 ones are much more refined and smoother cars. The power output is much better and the MPG is only marginally worse off for it.

The VR4 though /help

[dhutch]

The 2.0 GLS with the 4G63 engine is the ideal cost-concious 8G GalantAh ok, the the 4g64 is to be avoided but the 4g63 is a decent engine, point taken. Presumably the GDI technology just wasnt as good as the more common port injection?

A nat-asp v6 may still be an option but just a case of making the balance between practically/cost and performance (if it wasnt it would be the vr4 all day long clearly) but this is going to be my daily driver and run about car. I already have an old westfield as my second car for when its sunny.

I currently have a 1.8l pug306 which functions as my daily car and as a mediocre towcar and its a fairly nice chuckable lump that take all the abuse it gets given including towing its own weight and still returns 35mph average (28ish with box trailer) but i gradate in june after five years and its time for a change.


Daniel

[bradc]

If you want a reliable daily driver, get the v6 or 2.0 everytime.

[psbarham]

to give you an idea of how bad the fuel consumption is on the 1.8 gdi, my vr4 manual is better on juice in all situations than the 1.8 gdi legnum was.

go for a uk 2.5v6 and just waft everywhere,

[dhutch]

Also, am i right in saying that in the uk both the saloon and estate where sold as Galant and it is only the import Estates (typically all VR4's) that are badged as Legnums? I had previously thought that the Galants where all saloons and the Legnum the estate but the more i page through classified adds and from 'elnevio' post, the more 'Galant' covers both saloon and estate and anything under the title 'legnum' is an imported VR4!


Daniel

[dhutch]

Just run some sample quotes through confused.com
- been unable to get quotes for vr4's as yet as they dont come up.

However:
01plate 2.5 V6 Sport Galant Estate is £1650
99plate 2.0 Galant Estate comes out at £800

Bearing in mind the 1.8 pug is £600 and octaiva 2l SLXi is £700
Mind you, a t5 volvo 850 came out at 1500 and V70r at 1960!


Daniel

[Johnny_Cashed]

That sounds very high, my 03 plate 2.5V6 cost me somewhere like £1000 fully comp with a low excess at 23. Call sky insurance or adrian flux and see what they say.

[dhutch]

That sounds very high, my 03 plate 2.5V6 cost me somewhere like £1000 fully comp with a low excess at 23. Call sky insurance or adrian flux and see what they say.
Yeah i'll have to get on to some specialists. Ive got 8points for two separate speeding offenses (sp40 for 50 in a 30 on my own road, and an sp30 for towing a trailer at 71 on the motorway) which is clearly not helping me at all.

Any other insurance companies recommendations?

The kit car is £500 with Sureterm (policy with highway)


Daniel

[giblet]

Confused.com always seems to give me daft prices. My vr4 is insured with bell, comes to around 1800 for a 10 month policy, aged 22 with 1 years no claims and a fault claim plus a dodgy postcode!

[Nick Mann]

The auto versions of these cars seem to eat fuel at a fair old rate.

A manual V6 is capable of being much better on fuel than an auto 2.0.

I would personally go for the manual V6 - the engine is awesome in so many ways and suits the galant estate well.

[sonicsoundzdj]

Hi dhutch,
Im 21 and drive a Galant v6. I would love a vr4 or a legnum but i cant afford to buy or insure one. im happy with my Galant tho and its tastefully modified. its not the best fuel consumption in the world but thats the price of having a fairly nice car. As for reliability iv not had any major problems with it yet!

[dhutch]

Ok, i'll clearly have to have another look around at insurance, of the top my head as well as Bell i guess you have Aplan, Sky, adrian flux, etc?

Also, while we're on the topic of engines, whats the cost/reliability like on the GDi's because im actually currently writing a technical note on the pros and cons of gasoline direct injection spark ignition engines as part of my uni course. Are there any issues with costly injector failures at the like?
- Might be better starting a new thread, but just wondering really.
- Most of its reading and reviewing literature/papers/patents etc on the topic but it would be nice to have short paragraph based on something a little more really worldly. Odd that they did a 1.8 and 2.4 GDI but that the 2.0 used the earlier port injected engine.


Daniel