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bradc
29-03-2010, 07:15 AM
It was originally a manual Type S VR-4 made in 2000. Quinton has had the shell for a while. The AYC has been removed and as you can see if you look closely at the firewall it was originally Indigo Blue. It also has a moonroof.

It will be built up with a manual VR-4 gearbox, flywheel, clutch and transfer case and have a Type V rear diff in it. The rest of the drivetrain will also be VR-4 spec with stock VR-4 brake calipers and discs front and rear. As you can no doubt see it will be painted green :D

The wheels will be Weds TC-005's in 17x8" 38mm with 225/45/17 tyres on them painted gunmetal grey. I already own a set of these wheels in 17x9.5" 35mm which you can see on my purple VR-4 here http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=7

It will have a facelift front bumper slightly customised, facelift rear flares (but none on the front) and the rest of a facelift VR-4 kit. Finally it will have a Ralliart tipped stock VR-4 exhaust with a decat.

Nick Mann
29-03-2010, 09:30 AM
So whats the plan with this Brad? Eventually replace the purple one? Or just leave this drive train stock and modify visually?

bradc
29-03-2010, 09:35 AM
Note the title. A non turbo engine is going in.

Nick Mann
29-03-2010, 10:11 AM
Ah. All bark and no bite!

The Vee
29-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Now thats what I call stripped out - love it!!
Is it a N/A V6 going in then? As I see you're goung to change flywheel, clutch etc which of course you'll have to.
Knowing you young Sir, you've checked out all the gear ratios so guess you're happy with that.
Keep us posted, will be interested in results.

Kieran
29-03-2010, 05:22 PM
Looks interesting Brad. What's the shade of green that you're painting it called? I presume it's not a Mitsubishi colour?

bradc
29-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Andy, yes a 6A13 SOHC is going in there. JDM spec so 175hp which I'm hoping will be bumped up a bit by the decat and Ralliart VR-4 exhaust. It will have VR-4 ratios which I'm happy with, the standard V6 4wd 1st gear is too short and 2nd is too long, the ratios are closer and better :D

Kieran, it is called Poison Ivy.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/IMG_3462.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/IMG_3459.jpg
http://p.webwombat.com.au/motoring/cars/images/holden-commodore-sv6-review-2-big.jpg
http://www.hsv.com.au/news/2009/images/maloo_economy5_full.jpg
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/ve-wm/126377-poison-ivy-ve-ss-wagon.html

Kieran
29-03-2010, 07:19 PM
What a name for a paint colour! :D

I love that colour... I must say though, it's a brave choice... I am wondering if the Legnum is the right shape to carry that colour? I'm wondering if it's a bit too light. But I guess we'll see. Trying to overlay that colour onto an 8G, I am thinking that the Fail-lift shape will carry the colour better (shock horror!). I think the PFL would look a bit wrong with it.

bradc
29-03-2010, 07:21 PM
I tend to agree, the extra curves of the front bumper, bonnet, rear flares and rear tail gate will look very good with that paint colour. It has quite a bit of pearl in it so I think it will look fantastic in the sun.

bradc
25-05-2010, 09:21 PM
Getting there :D

Just needs to be reassembled now!

Ohh and that rear wiper base thingee needs to be painted satin black along with the all the wiper blades!

Kieran
25-05-2010, 11:04 PM
Mmmmm - Okay, that might just work!

Be interested to see the finished product!

Johny
25-05-2010, 11:10 PM
thought you were putting an evo box in this?

bradc
26-05-2010, 01:24 AM
Yes an evo 6 speed box is going into it

VR4WGN
28-05-2010, 02:51 AM
pictures dont do it justice.. it looks sexual in person!!!!!!!! cant wait to start actually.. but workshop has 6 legnums in it now so im crammed to the hills.. gota wreck 2 first then i have room to start,and then we can see bout this 6 speed demon!!! got the box already hehehehe

bradc
28-05-2010, 02:55 AM
So you'll be starting on it tomorrow?

miller
28-05-2010, 09:27 AM
any reason they didnt sit the shell fully on the transporter instead of the rear wheels on the down slope? Two straps holding it on doesnt seem enough to me?

bradc
28-05-2010, 10:34 AM
It may have had one on the rear tow hook that we can't see?

I guess it is also pretty light at the moment as it has NOTHING in it at all.

godzilla
05-06-2010, 11:47 PM
So it has been over a week - Any updates?

The Vee
06-06-2010, 12:43 AM
Just found this again! - Do like the green tbh. Be great to see it built up - the paint finish looks great. V6 with a 6 speed hmmmm great project, updates please Mr B

bradc
06-06-2010, 01:42 AM
Trev, no updates just yet. Quinton needs to clear out another car before he really starts on my car.

Andy, I love Roanne Red too :D. As I've said before, I think that 6 closely spaced gears will be great in a V6 and will reall make it come alive.

crazydriver81
07-06-2010, 09:43 AM
Brad, I am following the thread with high interest...and yes...I reckon'd that you'll have a 6-speed manual. /Hissy

I wish to convert to manual as well and 5 speed would suit me. But it's hard to find a manual box (either 8G Galant 4WD or Outlander/Airtrek 4WD or Chariot Grandis 4WD in Germany).

But anyhow, great project and good luck! :chugchug:

bradc
07-06-2010, 08:19 PM
It can't be that hard to find one, they only made 350 manual ST-R's :D

VR4WGN
07-06-2010, 09:00 PM
well update for Brad i should be making a start at the end of June,just in process of moving to a new house in the next 3 weeks and i am sad to report that 1 of my full restores was written off recently so iv just done a Transplant from Confusis's Legnum and put the Engine from the wreck into his car and is now
ACTUALLY Running lol... there were bolts and nuts from different areas in different placesand so forth...

crazydriver81
08-06-2010, 10:04 AM
It can't be that hard to find one, they only made 350 manual ST-R's :D

As said, you can take the manual gearbox from a Chariot Grandis (or SpaceWagon in Europe) or from an Airtrek (or Outlander Series I in Europe) as well. But it's hard to find such things in Germany...

VR4WGN
09-06-2010, 08:40 PM
i didnt think the grandis came in manual,i have a 2,4 auto 98 one and its auto!!!! and airtreks too...

i can supply you with a gearbox Stefan... you asked me a long long time ago lol.

bradc
09-06-2010, 08:48 PM
In europe lots of them are available in manual, whereas in Japan only Auto's are available.

crazydriver81
10-06-2010, 12:59 AM
i didnt think the grandis came in manual,i have a 2,4 auto 98 one and its auto!!!! and airtreks too...

i can supply you with a gearbox Stefan... you asked me a long long time ago lol.

Yeah Q, I know. But you are on the other side of the world and as a matter of fact, this makes the whole thing VERY expensive.

VR4WGN
12-07-2010, 06:31 AM
heres some more pics guys.. 1 problem,tell me what you see and what you think we can do?? youll see what i think im going to do,but its trial if the dash will still fit

VR4WGN
12-07-2010, 06:32 AM
and the rest

bradc
12-07-2010, 09:39 AM
Do you need some spacers to lift it up or something?

VR4WGN
12-07-2010, 09:45 AM
im not sure,um i want to trial weld the bolts on there and space it and see if it will clear the Dash and gear surround tho,if not we may have issues,can you get pictures form the guy in the netherlands whom did this conversion or not? its only the swing arm thats lower and causing the issue,i could massage or plasma cut it out to suit but dont recommend it....

AlanDITD
12-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Not sure how i missed this thread...gonna be an interesting one this..cool work guys!

VR4WGN
12-07-2010, 09:52 AM
thanx man,yea it definatly...is lol,but its a benchmark in my ability tho...

Gly
12-07-2010, 11:01 AM
do you have a normal shifter?
perhaps fit it as temp, and take a few measurments see if it will fit?
any particular reason for the evo shift cradle?

MarkSanne
12-07-2010, 12:26 PM
im not sure,um i want to trial weld the bolts on there and space it and see if it will clear the Dash and gear surround tho,if not we may have issues,can you get pictures form the guy in the netherlands whom did this conversion or not? its only the swing arm thats lower and causing the issue,i could massage or plasma cut it out to suit but dont recommend it....

Looking for the quick-shifter pics?

Google translate it (although no real usefull information)
http://www.galantfans.nl/viewtopic.php?t=11&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=1475

Pics (not that informative either unfortunately).
http://www.galantfans.nl/files/30868/quick_shifter_001.jpg
http://www.galantfans.nl/files/30868/quick_shifter_002.jpg
http://www.galantfans.nl/files/30868/quick_shifter_003.jpg
http://www.galantfans.nl/files/30868/quick_shifter_004.jpg

You can PM him under 'dutch driver' for more info.

bradc
12-07-2010, 08:07 PM
It was actually someone in Russia who has the 6 speed in a VR-4. I will send him a PM and see how he got around it.

VR4WGN
13-07-2010, 12:04 AM
Carsten its a 6 speed box so the reverse is a lift and put in gear henc ethe funny and essential need for the cradle unfortunatly...

scott.mohekey
13-07-2010, 12:32 AM
You should be able to weld a bracket to that rusty part. A sheet of metal running right underneath the bolt holes in the cradle.

Gly
13-07-2010, 01:33 AM
you able to salavge thatpart of the tunnel from the evo, cut and weld in place job??

scott.mohekey
13-07-2010, 01:34 AM
Actually, looking closer, you can just bend a length of metal in four places, and mount it to the existing holes.

VR4WGN
13-07-2010, 10:11 PM
Carsten icould but im worried bout minimising tunnel strength and its twin plated aswell as cage bolted too remember.. i may just try spacer pack it for now then see how we go,bit of a trial and fit but worth the investigations i think

AlanDITD
13-07-2010, 10:24 PM
is this finished yet?

VR4WGN
13-07-2010, 10:32 PM
no iv only jsut started rebuilding it Alan.. whys that?? itll be done in the next 2 weeks,but not the ngearbox machining at this stage,but the rolling body will be complete

AlanDITD
13-07-2010, 10:45 PM
LOL i was joking mate...

VR4WGN
13-07-2010, 11:08 PM
i know im fast but jeepers not that fast lol....

bradc
13-07-2010, 11:54 PM
Spacers should be fine as well as they are bolted in strongly and won't cause extra flex

VR4WGN
14-07-2010, 07:01 AM
llookey here tell me what you see.. problem solver???
ok pics wont load.

seems the evos have a adaptor/spacer plate tha tthe unit bolts too

VR4WGN
16-07-2010, 09:54 PM
well heres the status as of 4pm Friday 16 July...:drummer:

im aiming for Tuesday afternoon completion and then just awaiting the Engine and box completion....

iv still got to lay the AMP wiring and run speaker wiring to and fro, install the new MAP80 Mogoose alarm that runs off the factory Key Buttons...
Install suspension
Needs a CERT:uhoh2: however but then she will be legal for everything!!
Exciting Times.../Hmmm

this is really a fun job /bounce and a good project for Gen-8 to be doing,Brad you will need to get acustom Plate for this you know..

bradc
16-07-2010, 11:01 PM
I'm thinking 2K ST-R or 2K V6

VR4WGN
18-07-2010, 01:23 AM
lets pol it maby??? see what everyopne reckons,i like 2kstr

dickytim
20-07-2010, 07:41 AM
"louder"

bradc
20-07-2010, 08:01 AM
lol, you don't own that plate anyway do you?

dickytim
20-07-2010, 08:38 AM
depends, according the LTSA I do, but really it is my brothers

VR4WGN
20-07-2010, 11:49 PM
well heres some more pictures.. Car audio and wiring laid .. just got to X-over the door wiring then insert the audio once pillars have been painted...
interior is pretty much complete now tho..

The Vee
21-07-2010, 01:45 AM
Have a feeling with the black interior that car is gonna look the dog's dangly bits.

scott.mohekey
21-07-2010, 02:32 AM
It's hard to tell in the photos, but it looks like you've cut the carpet a bit around the amp. Is the carpet completely removed under the amp? Or is just slits cut at each end for the cables?

VR4WGN
21-07-2010, 04:14 AM
It's hard to tell in the photos, but it looks like you've cut the carpet a bit around the amp. Is the carpet completely removed under the amp? Or is just slits cut at each end for the cables?


:pimp2: good spotting lewis.. lol yea iv just slit the carpet to allow the amp to sit WAY close to the seat support rail and so the wiring can easy in there..

big arse amp,no room, had to slice back the air snorkel too

scott.mohekey
21-07-2010, 04:16 AM
How did the amp get in the way of the air snorkel? lol :p

Cool, I've done something similar with mine, just a small slit in the carpet to allow a shorter earth lead.

CANDEE
21-07-2010, 05:13 AM
How did the amp get in the way of the air snorkel? lol :p

Cool, I've done something similar with mine, just a small slit in the carpet to allow a shorter earth lead.
Its not hard Scott.. :P You should try and fit a decent sized amp under the other seat... lol

scott.mohekey
21-07-2010, 05:14 AM
I HAVE tried that.. I'm still undecided where to put my second amp as it is. The first amp under the passengers seat drives the front woofers and tweeters (4 channels), while the second amp will drive the sub.

CANDEE
21-07-2010, 05:17 AM
I HAVE tried that.. I'm still undecided where to put my second amp as it is. The first amp under the passengers seat drives the front woofers and tweeters (4 channels), while the second amp will drive the sub.
I have a 1000wRMS mono under my drivers seat for the sub.. lol Had to get right angle RCA adaptors to fit it, along with the snorkel cutoff mod.. Can send you a pic if you want. :) You have a leggie though dont you??

scott.mohekey
21-07-2010, 06:03 AM
I just clicked to what you mean by the snorkel.. not the air intake under the bonnet.. but the AC snorkel.

VR4WGN
21-07-2010, 09:40 AM
and we are all floating on the same planet really???

Wodjno
21-07-2010, 09:52 AM
and we are all floating on the same planet really???

/megawoot

bradc
21-07-2010, 10:22 AM
Got this today for it.

Johny
21-07-2010, 11:03 AM
yum!

VR4WGN
21-07-2010, 08:54 PM
that was the model that manaco had last xmas for 699,they had 6 of only tho...

bradc
21-07-2010, 08:57 PM
Ahh well, mine was $200 more, so not a big deal. RRP is like $2700 or so and most places sell them for around $1400-1600 so I still got a good price.

dickytim
22-07-2010, 12:46 AM
Ahh well, mine was $200 more, so not a big deal. RRP is like $2700 or so and most places sell them for around $1400-1600 so I still got a good price.

At $999 I think it is a very good deal, if you can find them for $699 I'd be keen as :)

bradc
22-07-2010, 07:05 AM
No, $899 :)

VR4WGN
22-07-2010, 07:44 AM
Back onto subject here fulla's/grouphug

boot trim,taillights,key lock,wing,lining and wiring completed on rear of Wagon... soooooo time consuming....

bradc
22-07-2010, 07:55 AM
Can you remove the rear wiper blade and put a mitsi logo there or something?

VR4WGN
22-07-2010, 08:12 AM
its a WOF requirement AFAIK....

dickytim
22-07-2010, 08:20 AM
this colour is really nice, I have to laugh all shiny then the old standard rims :)

bradc
22-07-2010, 09:37 AM
for the rear one as well?

Subaru ETA
22-07-2010, 11:39 AM
That's bs. Why would the rear wiper be required for a wof? Not every car has a rear wiper! It's not a wof requirement to check the rear one, only the front

VR4WGN
22-07-2010, 08:04 PM
That's bs. Why would the rear wiper be required for a wof? Not every car has a rear wiper! It's not a wof requirement to check the rear one, only the front

go back to skool dude,if it was fitted factory with 1 itNEEDS 1 on there.. i am not allowd to leav e a stump there or there needs to be a wiper!:blahblah:

bradc
22-07-2010, 08:14 PM
Hmm ahh well. Anyways Quinton, focus on getting that gearbox and engine in :D

scott.mohekey
22-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Reading from the relevant VIRM section (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/docs/gen-5-vision.pdf), it only makes reference to windscreen wipers. I think its therefore open to interpretation. Personally I wouldn't refer to the rear window as a windscreen.

Subaru ETA
22-07-2010, 09:36 PM
You go back to school and get your wof ticket then come back and argue it lol. If you leave the stump then it COULD fail as an unsafe external fittment. If you remove the motor then they can't. Rear wiper is not a wof requirement

VR4WGN
23-07-2010, 01:25 AM
You go back to school and get your wof ticket then come back and argue it lol. If you leave the stump then it COULD fail as an unsafe external fittment. If you remove the motor then they can't. Rear wiper is not a wof requirement

so thus i rest my case??:bananadan WOF issue then..
why dont you want it Brad?? oh thats right koz itll be parked up all the time anyhow nd not go out but stay DIRTY like all the others lol??

Subaru ETA
23-07-2010, 01:54 AM
Errr how have you rested your case? Brad asked if you could remove the rear wiper, your said you couldn't because it needs a wiper fir a wof. This is false because it doesn't need one.

You then made the assumption that I don't know what I am talking about, which is wrong - I know exactly what I am talking about.

I then said that they COULD poss fail it for being a dangerous fittment (if the wof inspector was being real picky) but I told you how to get arond this, by removing the motor and putting a mitsi badge in it's place, like brad asked you to.

Now take your dancing banana a go read up on the wof regs

VR4WGN
23-07-2010, 07:22 AM
Errr how have you rested your case? Brad asked if you could remove the rear wiper, your said you couldn't because it needs a wiper fir a wof. This is false because it doesn't need one.

You then made the assumption that I don't know what I am talking about, which is wrong - I know exactly what I am talking about.

I then said that they COULD poss fail it for being a dangerous fittment (if the wof inspector was being real picky) but I told you how to get arond this, by removing the motor and putting a mitsi badge in it's place, like brad asked you to.

Now take your dancing banana a go read up on the wof regs


no need ill leave the wOF's for the goFERS!!!!:mask:
ill just assemble the car to how it should be,i will then remove it for Brad after if he still wishes so.. no need to get all sticky tho.. youll only get gummed up in the end and need a good flossing ,so cool donw/Brolly and we will all be seaweeeeet!!!
NHF!!!!

VR4WGN
23-07-2010, 07:31 AM
again BACK on SUBJECT .......

pics are of an ST-r auto plate 656 so i can hndle the starter motor bolt hole mis alignement,but unsure if this will still be affected when bolted to engine tho..

seems that if im to bolt the box on the bottom holes Brad suggests it will tilt either the engine or the Gearbox,and i dont see a problem with the engine tilted but if the box tilts its gonna smash the Centre diff right out....:stop:

im hoping to see what i can do this weekend re tril fitting evrything..

battling to find a mechanic to do the big service on the engine for me too,and Brad we need a clutch aswell!!,and bearing ..

and are we using the VR4 flywheel and clutch/pressure plate or?????:undecided

bradc
23-07-2010, 08:44 AM
Yeah stock VR-4 clutch setup will be fine.


As for the gearbox, just weld some aluminium blocks onto the top and drill through them, you'll be fine :)

The reason why the starter motor fits on one bolt and not on the other may be because the ST-R plate is designed for a W4A42 or W5M42 gearbox which only have 220mm clutches (and in turn flywheel) and smaller torque converter, whereas a VR-4 and EVO 8-9 have 240mm clutches. You will need to use a VR-4 plate to see that the starter motor mount is in the same place.

AlanDITD
23-07-2010, 08:47 AM
How come you need someone else to service the engine?

bradc
23-07-2010, 09:28 AM
To do the cambelt change.

Subaru ETA
23-07-2010, 11:29 AM
Why can't Q do it? It's only a sohc v6

VR4WGN
23-07-2010, 09:26 PM
Why can't Q do it? It's only a sohc v6

im scared tbh iv never done 1 before,if i had a how to guide id attemt it but im so scared,otherwise id do al the vr4's when i build them up.. i need experienc ein this feild,remembering im a certified Welder not a mechanic lol:evil2:

scott.mohekey
24-07-2010, 12:03 AM
There's a guide on here for both the sohc and dohc. I've done both myself and its not really that hard at all. It will be even easier if you do it with the engine out of the car.

VR4WGN
24-07-2010, 12:55 AM
really? you ka eit sound so easy now lol,what bout waterpump?
~Q~

scott.mohekey
24-07-2010, 01:12 AM
Yeah, I've done the water pump both times.

Subaru ETA
24-07-2010, 12:38 PM
It's a piece of piss esp on the sohc engine

VR4WGN
24-07-2010, 02:45 PM
cmon dude.. i havent done 1 lol, so im scared,i have 2 spare engines maby i should practice?im not a mechanic remember im a customiser and fabricator lol

scott.mohekey
24-07-2010, 04:37 PM
Seriously Q. Do a test run on a spare engine if you have to, but it really isn't that hard.

VR4WGN
24-07-2010, 09:33 PM
does the guide tell me exactly what i need and need to do?,what tools etc

scott.mohekey
25-07-2010, 12:33 AM
VR4 Cambelt:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28501

SOHC Cambelt:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18562

SOHC Service Manual:
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=173

VR4WGN
21-08-2010, 07:41 AM
ok so i dedicated some time through out the entire day to Brads car and acheived alot of fiddly items whilst getting Katys car work done and Fibreglassing too...

heres a few pics..

pbaron
21-08-2010, 09:09 AM
Dude, the rear sway bar is not rotated up enough in the picture you posted, the links should be more verticle than horizontal, you will need to remove the links from the bar, rotate the bar forward and up then reattach the links, cheers.

Gly
21-08-2010, 09:11 AM
looking good,
and a number of choice bits going into the build,

im still not 100% sure about the colour, i see it every other day on holdens,
just a bit to kermit the frog for me, LOL

bradc
21-08-2010, 10:02 AM
The links for the anti roll bar should be near vertical shouldn't they?

scott.mohekey
21-08-2010, 11:00 AM
That's why they're called 'drop' links..

dickytim
21-08-2010, 08:24 PM
looking good,
and a number of choice bits going into the build,

im still not 100% sure about the colour, i see it every other day on holdens,
just a bit to kermit the frog for me, LOL

it looks awesome in the flesh.

VR4WGN
21-08-2010, 09:54 PM
Dude, the rear sway bar is not rotated up enough in the picture you posted, the links should be more verticle than horizontal, you will need to remove the links from the bar, rotate the bar forward and up then reattach the links, cheers.

Ey:huh2:
the car is in the air remember... and theres 2 positions,the instructions say that thres hard medium and soft but seems onlt 2 holes not 3
the links came off the old bar like the new 1 was installed so i dont understand

HICKSY
22-08-2010, 11:58 AM
Ey:huh2:
the car is in the air remember... and theres 2 positions,the instructions say that thres hard medium and soft but seems onlt 2 holes not 3
the links came off the old bar like the new 1 was installed so i dont understand

I know a white ST-R that they will work perfectly in! /Wyhy

VR4WGN
23-08-2010, 07:54 AM
bumpity bump bump!!!!

bradc
23-08-2010, 09:44 AM
You're supposed to be bumping it with new pics :)

Have you dropped the car back down to check the sway bar links? Ohh and can you please set them to hard at the front and rear? Originally there was three settings but on the softest setting the arm would rub or something, so they don't drill three sets of holes now.

taylor
02-09-2010, 10:40 PM
Ey:huh2:
the car is in the air remember... and theres 2 positions,the instructions say that thres hard medium and soft but seems onlt 2 holes not 3
the links came off the old bar like the new 1 was installed so i dont understand

Sway bar is definatly In wrong

VR4WGN
04-09-2010, 07:39 AM
Sway bar is definatly In wrong

i copied the install the same as the old 1 came out,how can it be wrong then? how is it wrong,lt me know please/help

VR4WGN
04-09-2010, 07:50 AM
:dance:
well here we are i did all the stuff that takes frikking ages and now its only the big stuff left..

i installed
ALL the Door Rubbers
the Mirrors
Boot lining
Windows
Window Rubbers
Door Locks
Door handles
Window Rails
Powered up the Body
Installed the Pioneer DVD unit
DaSH Surrounds
Engine Cover

Engine is now FULLy Serviced etc,ready to rumble
Arches are painted
Prop Shaft

and tinted fornt windows installed too

next is the scary part,installing the engine and box and Xfer case then dummy fitting it to a wreck first so far everything is pretty much done now,the alarm will go in last tho...

/toycar

bradc
04-09-2010, 07:57 AM
That does look good, I do like the green dash :D

Are you going to get onto the side air vents on the drivers and passenger sides too?

I'll send the clutch down to you on monday.

Ryan
04-09-2010, 08:12 AM
It is indeed looking good... apart from the boat steering wheel :inquisiti

Roberto
04-09-2010, 08:15 AM
It is indeed looking good... apart from the boat steering wheel :inquisiti

Agreed, so Q, if you can paint the steering wheel the same green colour, or install a full leather one, it will again help the viewing.

Nice work aswell.

VR4WGN
04-09-2010, 08:44 AM
Agreed, so Q, if you can paint the steering wheel the same green colour, or install a full leather one, it will again help the viewing.

Nice work aswell.

patience oh impatient 1,ther eis the correct wheel sititng on the rear floor for it,no use changing it now when ill have to take it off anyhow to straighten after wheel alignement dont you think lol??

VR4WGN
04-09-2010, 08:44 AM
Brad no we not painting them vents,little too much and tacky? dont you think?
plus theyr textured so it wont be glossy

Roberto
04-09-2010, 08:45 AM
patience oh impatient 1,ther eis the correct wheel sititng on the rear floor for it,no use changing it now when ill have to take it off anyhow to straighten after wheel alignement dont you think lol??

Agreed.

Roberto
04-09-2010, 08:46 AM
Brad no we not painting them vents,little too much and tacky? dont you think?
plus theyr textured so it wont be glossy

What about painting the clock cover, continue the green theme a bit further up?

Just looking again and it could work very nicely.

bradc
04-09-2010, 08:49 AM
Nahh I think the clock cover will look a bit silly. I still reckon the side vents will look pretty good.

Q, yeah the wood needs to go, it will be much easier to see with a proper steering wheel there!

HICKSY
05-09-2010, 01:16 PM
I agree with Q, don't paint the vent surrounds, will just look tacky.

VR4WGN
12-09-2010, 07:24 AM
:givemebee its all falling together nicely,But igot disrupted by my Hoist being installed but STILL can use it as its now not wired up yet grrrrrrrrrrr..:monkey:

BUT anyhooo i got new toys the other day and was able to do a full 180 spin on the spot in brads car without a motor,:lipseal yea i got me 4 dolly wheels(go jack type units.love these....

well back on subject.
:soaprant
the Engine is bolted upto the Gearbox,the Clutch and P/Plate is in and the Centre Diff is in too. so all ready to bolt in.

the front of the car is airborn ready to suck in the drivetrain tomorrow night(monday) i however have to build up a new subframe for brad before i install that,

1 question is the FL hub (bearing) the same as the PFL?? i have 1 collapsed in Brads car:Mr-T:

otherwise im waiting on speakers to install and put doorcards on and then the interior is COMPLETE

once all is in and running ill fit bumper,lights,grille,and then wire up the Map80 adn she is all ready o go for certing and wof n reg..

been a fun build pity iv only been able to do it in stages and not flat out like i anted to do,or itd been done within a month BUT again we all know that such things happen in life

bradc
12-09-2010, 08:08 PM
How are you going with the top mounts for the gearbox to engine?

VR4WGN
13-09-2010, 09:39 AM
um well i lifted it in tonight,i had to cut 10mm off the steel bush to fit into th legnum G/box mount on the chassis but the mount itself seesm to sit 15-20mm too short of it,so i want to try pack it up to see if that sorts the problem,doesnt help much im trial fitting it all with a totally collapsed engine mount either loo,engine keeps leaning forward.. i dont have any monts and theres none in Palmy so if anyone has please i need some

taylor
13-09-2010, 12:57 PM
i copied the install the same as the old 1 came out,how can it be wrong then? how is it wrong,lt me know please/help

The drop links need to be vertical. undo one side and push the sway bar up a bit and they will line up and be vertical.

On a galant installed like this, the kinked part of the spare wheel well will foul on the lower part of the spare wheel well, not sure if its the same on the Hearses

Brad, u really should have taken the opertunity to shave the lock off the tailgate! /pan

bradc
13-09-2010, 07:48 PM
Taylor - but then how would I get into the boot? :)

Q - no engine mounts here sorry.

pbaron
13-09-2010, 08:01 PM
I have a set of the red nolathane inserts that I never got around to fitting for the left, right and rear mounts.

bradc
13-09-2010, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the offer Pierre, but I think I'd like to stick with stock ones, this car isn't a racer ;)

CANDEE
14-09-2010, 09:10 AM
I have a set of the red nolathane inserts that I never got around to fitting for the left, right and rear mounts.
Might take dibs on those at some stage Pierre.. :d

VR4WGN
16-09-2010, 10:00 AM
pictures of car with engine in it...

VR4WGN
02-10-2010, 08:27 PM
ok engine is FREE Standing.. Finally/Banana

time consuming day doing the mounts,spent 6 hours with playing between packers,heights,clearances and angles........... but ts in now..

all i have left to do now is build up the subframe with FL hubs etc and brakes and install the sway bar then put fluids,connect Clutch hose and engine bay is complete..

1 problem is that the selector(1 of them) wil lnot go into its location,so im going to have to cut and weld it to fit,but deciding on a good distance is also tricky to ensure it wont affect the selection travel..


Door Moldings are on aswell
just wire up alarm onc eif started the engine then fit speakers and connect wiring and we are all set..
Hooray....................................

bradc
02-10-2010, 09:41 PM
Awesome update dude :)

VR4WGN
12-10-2010, 05:34 PM
ok well its shaping up and just bout done.. just fiddly bits and im hoping to start the engine in the next 7 days.. i also need to propbly get custom drive shafts made up

Mark 4
12-10-2010, 07:01 PM
Green is not one of my favourite colours for cars but I kinda like that.

bradc
12-10-2010, 07:09 PM
Which drive shafts? Front VR-4 shafts should be ok?

VR4WGN
13-10-2010, 06:38 AM
not sue if the passanger side will be.. btw i dont have any shafts the kit didnt include this.. are auto vr4 the same?

bradc
13-10-2010, 06:42 PM
Try them out! I dunno.

HICKSY
13-10-2010, 10:48 PM
We had this problem when we converted mine remember Q. ST-R front drive shafts are slightly longer and will bind up (drivers side anyway) on hard lock. I think the Auto and Manual VR4 ones must be the same, think we used Auto ones in mine?

VR4WGN
15-10-2010, 06:29 AM
im sure theyr not the same but im sure iv used them in the past?

VR4WGN
27-10-2010, 07:34 PM
k update time.. i should be driving this by saturday avo...
evo 4 shafts seem to work,but we wont know till driving it i think.
brakes on,just need bleeding.
fluids need going in and then the doorcards need screwing down.

ps i need new plastic for them,where or whats the best guys???

ill load up some pics today

bradc
27-10-2010, 07:36 PM
Cool thanks :D

What plastic do you need? Parts for the door cards? I gave you all of the clips and covers with the door cards I thought?

Gly
27-10-2010, 07:43 PM
plastic sheet that goes between the door skin and door, keeps the water out of the car,

payless plastics?? of a heavy duty garbage bag, only need to cover the holes,
id dyna matt the doors

bradc
27-10-2010, 07:50 PM
Yeah any plastic sheet from payless plastics would be ok.

VR4WGN
27-10-2010, 07:58 PM
heres som pics to keep hsappy for now..sorry bout typing errors im in bed sick as a dog and so forth..

theres still a fair bit to do but some(ie alarm) cannot be done untill vehicle runs..
Brad what ae we doing re batery?

bradc
27-10-2010, 08:20 PM
I dunno, just a standard largish one?

VR4WGN
28-10-2010, 08:17 PM
iv noticed the entire engine sits somewht over t 1 side tho,(20mm or so),the box must be slightly largr id say.

im a bit better today so i may get up and go complete s much as pos on it ..

bradc
29-10-2010, 06:53 AM
That pic with the custom bracket, could you put a bit more weld on it? I like changing gears is 0.5 seconds and I may be able to break that.

VR4WGN
29-10-2010, 07:29 AM
DOUBT it!!!!!!! flux core burns hotter than hardwire

VR4WGN
31-10-2010, 08:51 AM
Ok soo here goes.. my 1st day in thw workshop all week/Poms so glad to be over the illness but my body was still pretty down as i was not much productive,but acheived the following sitting down most of time lol..

religned the plastic sealing on the doors
Fitted the Doorcards(but no sign anywhere of the plastic black bits tho????:anxious:) no probs tho,stock is easyly available.
put fluids in the engine
Fitted Sideskirts
Fitted Tweeters and covers
Fitted Ganador Mirrors

all time consuming items as theyr very fiddly work well most of it lol....

Swang the car over but wouldnt start,Tuesday night i want to get my tester and check the looms were matching as i have suspicion the Fuel Pump Wire changes positions in the RH kick block ,then im sure shell swing over and start .

isolated the Inhibitor switch Wires and joined them and isolated the Reverse Switch Wires, need a 6 speed switch plug now grrrrrr

VR4WGN
31-10-2010, 08:53 AM
and the rest

bradc
31-10-2010, 06:49 PM
Awesome update!

low_vr4
02-11-2010, 11:48 AM
hey Q how do you do your headlights like that? tinted?

VR4WGN
02-11-2010, 06:32 PM
hey Q how do you do your headlights like that? tinted?
Proffesionally bud... no crap spray tint,or itll never ever come out as smooth and factory looking as mine do

VR4WGN
02-11-2010, 06:35 PM
Anyhow updates for the needy...

All the wiring is completed and working.
Fuel pump seized,Fuel tank was bone dry so replaced pump,and will pump gas in this week and allow to settle and sort filters out
Clutch Bled and working(wotta mission)

Huge thanx to Mason @ Geartech whom has spent numerous amounts of hours at my shop lately with the wiring.....

break till Saturday ,then im hoping to put rest of fluids in and test drive car

The Vee
02-11-2010, 06:51 PM
Looking good Q - nearly there!

bradc
02-11-2010, 07:01 PM
Did it have an ST-R fuel pump or VR-4 fuel pump? Is there even a difference?

VR4WGN
03-11-2010, 07:47 AM
TBH it dont mae a difference imo,but will soon find out,it was a vr4 originally

low_vr4
03-11-2010, 08:35 AM
Proffesionally bud... no crap spray tint,or itll never ever come out as smooth and factory looking as mine do

Is it easy to do or costly? keen to get mine done when i get my car back to wellington

VR4WGN
03-11-2010, 05:41 PM
Is it easy to do or costly? keen to get mine done when i get my car back to wellington
its not a 5 min job,i cn paint a setup for you and you can exchange with cash,its roughly $180 to be done and it IS Fully Legal too

MarkSanne
03-11-2010, 06:23 PM
I don't see what you're talking about?! Which pictures clarifies this tinting you're talking about?

Gly
03-11-2010, 07:36 PM
rear tail light, last set of pics posted

low_vr4
03-11-2010, 09:40 PM
its not a 5 min job,i cn paint a setup for you and you can exchange with cash,its roughly $180 to be done and it IS Fully Legal too

bloody hell $180, ill try with a $20 tint spray can first lol

VR4WGN
04-11-2010, 05:12 AM
bloody hell $180, ill try with a $20 tint spray can first lol
Lets not spam up this thread please ,there is a pm function, anyhow you apy for what you get in the end,you screw it up itll cost 200 to clean up then anyhow!! tightness begets tightness and ends bad always,you want something do it right first time,you were warned!

pbaron
16-12-2010, 09:26 AM
Hey Brad , where are things at with this wagon?

bradc
16-12-2010, 06:30 PM
Dunno, what is happening Q?

VR4WGN
22-12-2010, 07:33 AM
i cannot get the Structual assessor round before xmas to look at the rail so thats where we are at..

otherwise i have the new longer shaft.
still need a new Reverse switch and the top plug off it if anyone has 1(6spd)
still needa investigate the temp problem too

she is up on the hoist now and is gettn new shaft installed ,then waiting game for the assessor

Subaru ETA
22-12-2010, 11:40 AM
i cannot get the Structual assessor round before xmas to look at the rail so thats where we are at..

otherwise i have the new longer shaft.
still need a new Reverse switch and the top plug off it if anyone has 1(6spd)
still needa investigate the temp problem too

she is up on the hoist now and is gettn new shaft installed ,then waiting game for the assessor

Is it an assessor or a repair certifier?

VR4WGN
22-12-2010, 06:41 PM
he is a certifier but he assessors my jobs for me too and guides me through the process

Subaru ETA
27-12-2010, 10:16 PM
Well now that Q has upped tools and ****ed off it would appear, what is happening with this?

bradc
27-12-2010, 10:26 PM
It will be fine, he isn't annoyed with me ;)

VR4WGN
02-01-2011, 05:27 AM
productive is the word to end all...

some updates for you Brad...

fitted all sway bars
fitted under body brace
fitted wipers and aligned the motor rotation
fitted the shaft
fitted new water temp sensor
fitted battery box
fitted airbox
fitted FL mudflaps
fitted rear numberplate garnish

all is going well now,except for 10:30am today
took her for a test run and came back limping home to the shop.

took a corner and heard a clunkck then a clunck intermittadly on every tyre revolution,limp home,back on hoist and hello....
Passenger side shaft is ALSO too short and popped out of location inside the cup,but still intact,now to buy a E5-7 PS shaft and retest

bradc
02-01-2011, 06:07 AM
Ahh cool, it's got the fogs in. Any chance of taking a pic to show the whole car?

I also just saw my phone, send me an email :)