barsteward spacers

[VR4Kaos]

got my evo 8 Enkie's yesterday to be stopped in my track by wheel spacers and can't get em off for love nor money gonna have to be a gararge job i think
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[aboo]

WTF is that. Where did you get the car from Karl?

[Nutter_John]

what you trying to get em off with ?

[VR4Kaos]

think these have been put on to make the rays split rims work on em which they don't lol tryed 22mm socket and wheel brace and two men

[aboo]

I take it the bolts dont want to move cause they look like there starting to round.

[aboo]

Are the bolts not 21mm

[VR4Kaos]

I take it the bolts dont want to move cause they look like there starting to round.
this is why ive stopped :angry:

[aboo]

ignore my last post 21mm is the size of my one's but there like locking nuts.

[VR4Kaos]

so am i right the original studs are bolting on the spacer ?

[aboo]

Looks like it.

[VR4Kaos]

so why is it so difficult to get em off is it that heat has seased em on ?

[elnevio]

Looks like that Karl. /yes

Although I wonder how the wheel fits on with those bolts in the way. :thinking:


You probably need to give them a good soaking in WD-40, and leave for a bit, then a blowtorch to apply a lot of heat - and then try to remove the bolts. Preferably with an impact socket (i.e. 6-sided).

Otherwise yes, a trip to the garage might be quicker.

[aboo]

Could be. Looks like they'v been on for a while.

Have you tried WD40?

[VR4Kaos]

Could be. Looks like they'v been on for a while.

Have you tried WD40?
dont wanna get it on me discs init mate

[Nutter_John]

impact socket and a bfo breaker bar

But I'd take it to a garage and let them suffer if you snap a stud you will be in a world of pain

[aboo]

dont wanna get it on me discs init mateHear what your saying. Do as John said.

[crazyken76]

cover your discs and put either engine oil on or spray with wd40 then heat them up and use ring spanner and hit it with a hammer that should work mt

[VR4Kaos]

think these Rays trispoke don't wanna leave me/car

[Turbo_Steve]

WD40 reapplied every few hours for 6hrs, then a 6 sided socket and impact wrench.

If that doesn't work, get the Oxy on it.
Shame you're so far north, or I'd tell you to pop down.

[crazyken76]

shout at them and hit them with a big hammer that works for me lol :)

[psbarham]

hammer and cold chisel to loosen them off, once they've moved slightly then wd40

[VR4Kaos]

thanks anyway steve very kind of ya
pmsl @ crazyken
aint got a 22mm ring spanner to tw@t em loose either
think its a trip to garage monday
still need wheel nuts too never relised how expencive they are :-(

[Turbo_Steve]

Actually PSB is right - the cold chisel is a really really good idea - Dad uses it on the tractors!

[lancerevo3]

chisel is good if your used to it if not you could make a balls of it.
take to the garage if your not comfortable with it .

[ianturbo]

If you can get over to accrington in mornin I have use of a garage with impact gun and heat ??ian

[VR4Kaos]

got the jis of what is required but worried bout bending studs seems a lot of work aswell considering theres 20 of em init :(

[VR4Kaos]

If you can get over to accrington in mornin I have use of a garage with impact gun and heat ??ian
would be great but still need the nuts :rolleyes4 to put the enkei's on gutted now thanks tho mate appretated :beerchug:

[ianturbo]

Let us know when you get ya nuts ( no pun intended ) if ya still struggling.
Ian

[VR4Kaos]

pmsl cheers mate

[bradc]

Are the studs on the spacers still 5x114.3? If so you could probably leave the rear ones on and just remove the fronts.

[VR4Kaos]

Are the studs on the spacers still 5x114.3? If so you could probably leave the rear ones on and just remove the fronts.
no they not mate this is how i found out they was spacers because the wheels wouldent fit on my car

[bradc]

ahh ok. What do the rays wheels have stamped on the back of them?

[ianturbo]

ahh ok. What do the rays wheels have stamped on the back of them?
Probly" do not fit VR4 s !!!"/Banana /Banana
ian

[VR4Kaos]

ahh ok. What do the rays wheels have stamped on the back of them?
not sure without removing em
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does this help ?

[VR4Kaos]

Probly" do not fit VR4 s !!!"/Banana /Banana
ian
they are multi stud so presume they would just wrong offset

[bradc]

Those are 5x114.3 so the evo 8 wheels should fit fine on the spacers.

Try the evo wheels again :)

[VR4Kaos]

Those are 5x114.3 so the evo 8 wheels should fit fine on the spacers.

Try the evo wheels again :)
well spotted mate wow /bounce
but defo don't fit they scraping the studs what little they go on em that is but got me curious now willl be out first thing in the morning giving em another go thanks mate much appretated

[bradc]

Ahh I think the evo wheels will be touching the studs coming out of the original hubs, whereas the rays wheels will have open spaces between the mounting points for the nuts.

[stuey]

No-one else spotted the 'of +48' meaning 48mm offset in the rays wheels ?... hence the spacers, so the EVO wheels will not fit straight on..

[Ryan]

No-one else spotted the 'of +48' meaning 48mm offset in the rays wheels ?... hence the spacers, so the EVO wheels will not fit straight on..

I saw it /yes

[bradc]

It doesn't really matter what offset the rays were, the only important thing is fitting the EVO wheels on :) I'm guessing the spacers are about 10mm thick, so the EVO wheels would end up being a 28mm offset which is too much on the front but probably just ok on the rear.

[VR4Kaos]

what everyone seems to be forget or not noticed and im not been a smartass cos its one thing i ain't the Rays are multistud so may be 5x114..... but the spacer isent 5x114..... but the Rays go on due to them been multi stud

[VR4Kaos]

just checked this again and defo don't fit on the spacer studs so they defo different stud pattern

[Davezj]

just read this thread and i have a 22mm impact socket and breaker bar, that you could try, plus the long metal pipe and scaffold pole that will be required. but as said earlier you might just snap the stud.

let me know.

personally i would take it to a garage as they will be very used to taking stubbern nuts off with either heat, impact air tools, or cheisel then off, and it the worse happens they will probably have wheel studs to replace the broken ones.
by the way camskill sell replacement wheel studs.

[VR4Kaos]

just read this thread and i have a 22mm impact socket and breaker bar, that you could try, plus the long metal pipe and scaffold pole that will be required. but as said earlier you might just snap the stud.

let me know.

personally i would take it to a garage as they will be very used to taking stubbern nuts off with either heat, impact air tools, or cheisel then off, and it the worse happens they will probably have wheel studs to replace the broken ones.
by the way camskill sell replacement wheel studs.
nice one mate just sorted it for a guy round the corner from me who has a gararge and is gonna have a go at em for me he got ossi settling or whatever it be called (a hot tourch) too.
just need nuts now

[Davezj]

no worries mate glad you are going to get someone to sort it for you.
just make sure you get the garage guy round the corner a pack of beers, on top of what he is going to charge you for time, etc, as a guy with a garage that live round the corner and is on speaking turms with you is a very good thing to have. there is nothing wrong with showing appreciation. you never know when you might need a favour in the future.

[VR4Kaos]

no worries mate glad you are going to get someone to sort it for you.
just make sure you get the garage guy round the corner a pack of beers, on top of what he is going to charge you for time, etc, as a guy with a garage that live round the corner and is on speaking turms with you is a very good thing to have. there is nothing wrong with showing appreciation. you never know when you might need a favour in the future.
only to true mate great minds think alike (or idots never differ lol) i already ordered this man a bottle of remy martin me got a mate in that dept too lol

[Davezj]

only to true mate great minds think alike (or idiots never differ lol).

i like that, i might slip that one in to my repertoire for later use.

[VR4Kaos]

ye olde en's are the best en's init