Fords Smart Charge system ??

[Wodjno]

Anybody know when Ford started using the Smart Charge System on Ford Mondeo's ??

Cheers

Wodj

[Humpty's Revenge]

Anybody know when Ford started using the Smart Charge System on Ford Mondeo's ??

Cheers

Wodj

Glenn is its full title Smart Charge injection system?

If so I think it was on or around 2003?:undecided

[Wodjno]

Glenn is its full title Smart Charge injection system?

If so I think it was on or around 2003?:undecided

I don't think so Steve.. It's Smart Charge as in the Battery Charging system which i think came before the smart charge injection system ? I think ?

:undecided

[stuartturbo]

I think it was with the new model/engine in 2001
Got a problem with it????

[Wodjno]

Hi Stuart

Yes problem with the Bat going flat..
It's on a 1999 V Mong Gayo..
I think it was on earlier Focus models 1995/- ??
So assuming it's on this..? The Battery has lots of different wires coming off terminals to what i normally see..
it also has a 3 pin plug on the Alternator, that the Smart Charge system has supposed to have. I found a tech sheet on testing a car fitted with this kind of system on the net. On tested via the instruc: a) Voltage accross battery with 3 pin plug connected = 14.6v .. b) With 3 pin connector disconnected 12.6v
With 3 pin connector disconnected the alternator reverts back to a standard charging system and should show at least 13.8v! Which it doesn't which means the Alternator is more than probably fudged..
Also now the wrong battery type is on the car. It should be a Silver Calcium type battery as the Smart Charge system can output upto 18v, which can fry a normal battery /help
Time will tell. And thanx for replies /yes

Wodj

[Wodjno]

Typical /Hmmm

Just found this info /yes

The following Ford models must ONLY be fitted with Calcium Silver batteries as stipulated by Ford Motor Company Ltd.

Model..... From
Mondeo.. June '98
Cougar.. June '98
Puma.... January '99
Transit. January '99
Escort.. January '99
Fiesta.. January '99
Ka....... January '99
Foc...... January '99
Fusion.. September '02

So the Mong Gayo i was workin on does have the smart charge system by the looks of things, as they started using the Calcium Silver battery in 1998 on the Mongy /yes

For anyone who has 1 of the above Fords /yes

http://www.autoequipment.com.au/PicoScope/PicoScopeHTM_data/044/alternator.htm

[The Vee]

oops - Unless that's what Millfield gave me when I changed the Fiesta one - I'll have a look later

[Wodjno]

oops - Unless that's what Millfield gave me when I changed the Fiesta one - I'll have a look later

Well the above Mongy went to Millfields earlier today with the owner. Millfileds whacked a voltmeter accross the battery terminals with lights and heater on and it chucked back the high 13volts back at them.. They then said you need a New Battery and it'll be £45 :oops:

They should have tested it with the 3 pin plug diconnected from the Alternator. Which when i did it chucked back 12.6v..

So i would check if i were you Andy /yes

[Wodjno]

Just to add: /help

In a recent Technical Service Bulletin from Ford (who have been using Calcium Silver since 1997 as OE), they have stated that due to the Smart Changing System (SCS) fitted to its vehicles ONLY Calcium Silver batteries can be used.

Fitting anything other than Calcium Silver could result in a severely shortened service life, increased warranty claims and could even cause explosions.

[Subaru ETA]

the problem with silver calcium batteries is that jump starts wont keep them going. you can jump start one, drive for 8 hours, turn it off and it wont start again.

you MUST slow charge the battery, preferably with a proper silver calcium battery charger. if the battery drops below a certain voltage the alternator does not have enough amps to bring it back up.

a proper silver calcium charger alternates the output. it gives it a slow charge, then a high amperage change, then slow again.

i would suggest pulling it out and bench charging it first. mon dogs seem to be the worse for this