View Full Version : GTO Manifolds on a VR4
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Does anyone 1 know? Or tried a set of GTO manifolds against VR4 manifolds?
Do they have the same centres to the bores? How much is the bolt pattern out? I can see from PDF's that the bolt pattern is the same, but not where the centres of the bolt holes are. Any help mucho appreciated.
Mark 4
05-01-2012, 08:17 PM
You been honing your welding skills ?
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 08:36 PM
You been honing your welding skills ?
Nope..
i asked this question many years ago, i was told they would not fit.
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 10:24 PM
i asked this question many years ago, i was told they would not fit.
Pretty sure they won't fit either Carsten..
But GTO Stainless manifolds are easily and fairly cheaply available. Modifying a stainless GTO manifold to suit VR4 and Rub GTO TD04's would be a much easier option than trying it with stock manifolds. And cheaper than custom built manifolds. Also the GTO Downpipe doesn't look a million miles different to that of the VR4. It would need some modification again, but easier than making from scratch and cheaper.
Wodj
miller
05-01-2012, 10:24 PM
Ben would be the man to answer this one me thinks!
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 10:31 PM
Ben would be the man to answer this one me thinks!
I'm sure your right Mike /yes
I'll change the Title of the thread to be more enticing for Ben to poke his head in :D
swinks
05-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Actually I was asking myself the same question, but regarding downpipe elbows, they seems pretty much the same.
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 10:55 PM
Actually I was asking myself the same question, but regarding downpipe elbows, they seems pretty much the same.
VR4 Downpipes
50462
GTO Downpipes
50463
Goreden
05-01-2012, 11:00 PM
They don't look to dissimilar to me I'm sure if u had them side by side the gto downpipes could be cut and welded to fit the vr4
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 11:03 PM
They don't look to dissimilar to me I'm sure if u had them side by side the gto downpipes could be cut and welded to fit the vr4
Yep.. I am sure this is doable without to much hassle.. /yes But he main reason for the thread is the fitment/modification of the GTO manifolds to the VR4.. If this is quite easily achievable with a bit of work. Then GTO Tubs on the VR4 will be an easier option /Hmmm
Goreden
05-01-2012, 11:07 PM
When it comes to the manifolds someone with more knowledge of our cars will know more than me but I shall watch this thread with interest
swinks
05-01-2012, 11:13 PM
Glenn, but whole point is that stock TD04 from GTO are -9B, not much a gain, and massive hassle. Yes, there are kits to upgrade these tubbys to -13T, -15T or massive -19T, but it's pricey. What's more oil lines are different. Hence Scuibi turbos are much cheaper option being already -13T.
So big question is to find a balance value/effort/money in terms of fitting set of GTO turbos + manifolds vs. Scubi turbos and custom manifolds.
Wodjno
05-01-2012, 11:16 PM
When it comes to the manifolds someone with more knowledge of our cars will know more than me but I shall watch this thread with interest
The main bone of contention will be the measurement to the centres of the bores. If they are the same? then i think the rest can be worked on ?
VR4 Manifolds
50465
GTO manifolds
50464
ILLEGAL
06-01-2012, 12:17 AM
C'mon guys.. its looking at you dead in the face.. the gaskets are the same part numbers or are those not part numbers? the manifold to the head matchs.. i dunno why you dont just go custom. im poor but still think custom is cheaper.
those arnt part numbers, there ref# to drawing part location in asa/caps, which is the same for every car,
(which is cross referenced with the chassis number to give part number for you specific car)
they do give a different part number for gto and vr4 when selected :)
Wodjno
06-01-2012, 02:34 AM
C'mon guys.. its looking at you dead in the face.. the gaskets are the same part numbers or are those not part numbers? the manifold to the head matchs.. i dunno why you dont just go custom. im poor but still think custom is cheaper.
Haha.. I wish it were true that we have all overlooked such a simple thing /yes
ILLEGAL
06-01-2012, 04:59 AM
well that does suck... soooo.... just grab a spare Galant/legnum gasket and go to mitsubishi or local parts supplier and compare gaskets.. cost nothing and gives a definitive answer.
on a side note "sorry"... how do i find these part numbers?? can i do this from home?? what and where do i need to download? i need my car (7G) and fto mivec.
wintertidenz
06-01-2012, 05:13 AM
You will need to download ASA. Notably, the Japan ASA - not general or US.
Wodjno
07-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Bump :D
Mark 4
07-01-2012, 07:51 PM
I've got a pair of stainless flanges if that's any good Glenn.
Wodjno
09-01-2012, 06:32 PM
I've got a pair of stainless flanges if that's any good Glenn.
Already have some Mark :D But thanks for the offer /yes
Eurospec
09-01-2012, 06:47 PM
The manifolds are indeed different Glenn, i would think modifying them to work would pretty much involve rebuilding them.
Cheers,
Ben.
foxdie
12-01-2012, 11:25 PM
The engine side of the manifolds are different, but what about the turbo side?
Just drooling over these; http://evilempireperformance.co.uk/gto-3000gt-shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=22_183_184
Kryton
12-01-2012, 11:36 PM
Main reason for the post is to subscribe to the thread but what about this as an option so then no need to change the pipes at all:
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/vivid-racing-turbo-upgrade-kit-60hp-bmw-135i-n54-0810-p-100035.html
Don't know if there is anyone local who can do it or how easy to do yourself & get balanced as not at all mechanical but I personally would be happy with that dirt of power gain per tub
wintertidenz
13-01-2012, 06:14 AM
They clip the turbines from reading that link - people on here have had the turbines clipped and they didn't last long.
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