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Davezj
16-03-2012, 09:55 PM
Sorry this is only a thread to if anyone knows if they are available.

There seems to be some eBay turbo rebuild kits out there but I have not found one that says it is for a TD03.

There are some kits on this search from eBay, but are what you really need for a complete rebuild.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trkparms=65%253A15%257C66%253A2%257C39%253 A1&rt=nc&_nkw=Turbo+rebuild+kit&_dmpt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&_ipg=200&_sc=1&_sop=15&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1514

If you could get a rebuild kit for £40 would it be worth it.

I will probably be needing some replacement turbo's soon, so it is covenant that I have a couple of replacement pairs in the shed. But I don't know the quality of them.

There is a small amount of play in the shaft (across the shaft) but not much.
I am wondering if a rebuild kit would fix this movement, as some of the kit have some what look like brass bush ins along with all the seals and clips, etc.
Or is it a case of needing a new cartridge to fix any issues like this.

If you know of any rebuild kits for our TD03 I would like any info you have.

psbarham
16-03-2012, 10:07 PM
I spoke to a company at autosport last year and they are working on one, it comes as a complete cassette to drop into our housings. I just can't remember their name.

Davezj
16-03-2012, 10:16 PM
So it would be the cassette plus a couple of seals.

Which would mean it would come pre balanced I presume.

When I strip mine down I was going to put a little scribe line on the shaft, nut, compressor wheel. So when it goes back together you can line up the wheel and shaft and try to line up the nut as well.
As I think it is the nut that generally get trimmed to make the overall turbo balance. Well that is what I have alway presumed as they all seem to have varying degrees of a slice of nut cut off the side of them.

swinks
16-03-2012, 10:18 PM
Do you mean complete CHRA kits, Paul?

Davezj
16-03-2012, 10:22 PM
Chra?

swinks
16-03-2012, 10:50 PM
Here is picture of what I mean:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-CHRA-Cartridge-Turbo-MHI-TD04L-13G-Lancer-GSR-1-8-/110557668999?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19bdc02687

Davezj
17-03-2012, 09:02 AM
That is what I meant by
cartridge

And what Paul meant (i think) by
Cassette

Davezj
17-03-2012, 09:08 AM
But changing the whole cassette/cartridge/chra is the expensive way of doing a rebuild.

Are there any rebuild kits that cost about £40 like other turbo have available.
If not then I was going to contact some of these eBay sellers to see if they can put one together for the TD03.

Buy the way what is the suffix for our turbo, is it TD03-7g I am not sure.

scott.mohekey
17-03-2012, 09:44 AM
I looked into getting a rebuilt kit through a local turbo guru, and he recommended against DIY as it's impossible to get it balanced well. A replacement CHRA however would be ok.

Davezj
18-03-2012, 01:22 AM
But the chra is only slightly less money than a new turbo and much more than a second hand replacement.
I know you do not necessarily know what you are buy quality wise when you buy second hand but if you can get a pair from a mates breaker car then you have a good idea of the quality.

Thanks for the info anyway even if it was not what I wanted to here, from a confidence point of view.but you have to respect the views of a pro with regards to the balancing issues.

scott.mohekey
18-03-2012, 02:25 AM
That's why I went with a second hand set of turbos. I did however take them to the pro to get them checked out first.

Wodjno
18-03-2012, 03:28 AM
I have 2 x repair kits for TD03's. I've had them for couple of years now, and been meaning to get a spare pair to refurb. Nutter John actually has a pair of tubbys waiting for collection as I type. So hopefully I will get them sorted soon.
As to the question, how much and where from ! I honestly can't remember /help ill have to dih them out and are if they give me any clues /yes

Wodj

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Davezj
18-03-2012, 07:53 AM
I have 2 x repair kits for TD03's. I've had them for couple of years now, and been meaning to get a spare pair to refurb. Nutter John actually has a pair of tubbys waiting for collection as I type. So hopefully I will get them sorted soon.
As to the question, how much and where from ! I honestly can't remember /help ill have to dih them out and are if they give me any clues /yes

Wodj

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I would like to know the info Glenn if you can find it.
Very interested.

alan
18-03-2012, 11:15 AM
http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/p/product/1011092692-Mitsubishi+TD02+TD025+TD03+Service+repair+rebuild+ kit/
this the sort of kit yr after ?

Davezj
18-03-2012, 12:06 PM
http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/p/product/1011092692-Mitsubishi+TD02+TD025+TD03+Service+repair+rebuild+ kit/
this the sort of kit yr after ?

Yes that is the sort of thing I am after.
But it looks like it is a few seal short of a full kit.
That looks like it will rebuke the "CHRA" but not put the housings back together.
I will contact them and see what what with the kit.

Thank for the link, that is a great help.

alan
18-03-2012, 12:43 PM
ive seen bigger kits somewhere, the states , where they use them for motorbikes. and china, though what the quality from there is like i have no idea, they do have all the bits though from cartridge to gaskets,seals and water lines, i will have another look

alan
18-03-2012, 01:18 PM
a bigger kit
http://baeturbosystems.com/turboservicekitformitsubi****d04td04l49177-80410oereplacement-2.aspx

Davezj
18-03-2012, 02:41 PM
your link does not seem to work, but i think you linked to this webpage

http://baeturbosystems.com

then clicks through the menu:-
Turbo Components Catalogue A
Service Kit
Mitsubishi
Turbo Service Kit for Mitsubishi TD03 TF035 OE Replacement

i would have to check if it is the correct kit for our TD03 but i don't actually know what turbo we have fitted the suffix it the important bit.

can anyone help with this TO03-???

Edit:-
ok i have found from this thread,
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?47426-TD03-Part-Number-Parts-Numbers&highlight=turbo+td03

we have TD03-07T

alan
18-03-2012, 03:46 PM
the oem part number for our turbos, is it MR312554 ?
i only ask cos td03-07t comes up with this part number against part 49131-04300

alan
18-03-2012, 03:53 PM
in which case
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/359920746-Mitsubishi-TD02-Turbocharger-Repair-kit-No-50000-50027-wholesalers.html

alan
18-03-2012, 04:02 PM
2T-4

MITSUBISHI

49135-02110

MR212759

MITSUBISHI

L200 2.5LD

4D56



TF035HL2-12GK

MITSUBISHI

49135-02652

MR968080

MITSUBISHI

L200 (02-)

4D56



TF035HM-12T

MITSUBISHI

49135-03101

ME201677

MITSUBISHI

Delicia

4M40



TF035HM-12T

MITSUBISHI

49135-03310

ME202578

MITSUBISHI

PAJERO 2.8L

4M40



TF035HM-12T-4

MITSUBISHI

49135-04121

28200-4A201

HYUNDAI

Starex





TF035HM-12T-4

MITSUBISHI

49135-06015

3C1Q-6K682-EB

FORD

Transit 2.4

120PS



TF035HM-12T-4

MITSUBISHI

49135-06017

3C1Q-6K682-FB

FORD

Transit 2.4

90PS



TF035HM-10T-4

MITSUBISHI

49135-06020

YC1Q-6K682-CA

FORD

Transit 2.4 ,2000-2002

75PS



TF035HL VGT

MITSUBISHI

49135-05670/640/660/671



BMW

320D





TF035HM-13T-6

MITSUBISHI

49135-05000

99450703

IVECO

Daily 2.8 TCA

8140233700 2.8



TF08L

MITSUBISHI

49134-00020

114400-3530

HITACHI

EX400-1





TD025M-06T-2.3

MITSUBISHI

49173-06500

897185-2412

OPEL

Corsa / Combo / Astra 1.7 55kw

Y17DT / Y17DLL / Y17DTH / Z17DTL



TD025M-06T-2.3

MITSUBISHI

49173-06501

897185-2413

OPEL

Corsa / Combo / Astra 1.7 55kw

Y17Dt / Y 17DLL / 17 DTH / Z 17DTL



TD025M-06T-2.8

MITSUBISHI

49173-02610

28231-27500

HYUNDAI

Accent 1.5

D3EA



TD025M-09T-3.3

MITSUBISHI

49173-02401

28231-27000

HYUNDAI

H200 2.0

D4EA



TD025S2-06TA

MITSUBISHI

49173-07506

9682881780

CITROEN

C3,C4,FORD Fiesta

1.6



TD025S2-06T4

MITSUBISHI

49173-07507



CITROEN

C3,C4,FORD Fiesta

1.6



TD03-07T

MITSUBISHI

49131-04300

MR312554

MAZDA



6A13(L)



TD03L4-07T/VG

MITSUBISHI

49131-06003



OPEL







TD03L4-07T-VG

MITSUBISHI

49131-06007



OPEL

CORSA Astra 1.7





TD04L-4-12T2-VG

MITSUBISHI

49377-00510

4C1Q-6K682-BE

FORD

Transit V184,2.4D,2005





TD04-09B-4

MITSUBISHI

49177-01510

MD106720

MITSUBISHI

L300

DE4D56



TD04-11G-4

MITSUBISHI

49177-02500

MD170563

MITSUBISHI

Pajero I/C

2.5LD 4D56Q EC



TD04-12T-4

MITSUBISHI

49377-03041/03043

ME201258

MITSUBISHI

PAJERO 2.8Lintercool

4M4(EC)



TD04-13T-4

MITSUBISHI

49177-06450

2246144

BMW

526 [E39] 2.5

M51



TD04H-13C-6

MITSUBISHI

49189-01000

3547658

VOLVO

740/460/940/960/'89

B230FT



TD04L-13T-6

MITSUBISHI

49377-04100

14412AA140

SUBARU

Impreza / Forester 2.0

58T / EJ205 2.0



TD04L-13T

MITSUBISHI

49377-04300

14412AA360

SUBARU

SUBARU IMPREZA





TD04HL-13T-8

MITSUBISHI

49189-05200

9454562

VOLVO

V70 T5 / XC 70 / S80 / XC 90 2.3 / 2.5

N2P25LT



TD04H

MITSUBISHI

49189-05201



VOLVO







TD04H-13C-6

MITSUBISHI

49189-01010

5003713

VOLVO

740/460/940/960

B230 FT 2.3



TD04L-14T

MITSUBISHI

49377-00120

04884234AC

CHRYSLER

PT CRUISER

2.4



TD04-11G-4

MITSUBISHI

49177-02512

MD194845

MITSUBISHI

L200 / Pajero / Galloper 2.5

4D56/D4BF/D4BH QEC ['96-'98]



TD04L-14T-5

MITSUBISHI

49377-07010

500372213

IVECO

Daily 2.8 78kw

78 KW



TD04L-14T-6

MITSUBISHI

49377-06000

1275734

VOLVO

S40/V40 '97

B4194T



TD04HL-15G-8.5

MITSUBISHI

49189-00501

894367516A

ISUZU

4BD1

4BD1-T



TD04HL-16T-7

MITSUBISHI

49189-01350



VOLVO







TD04HL-15T-6

MITSUBISHI

49189-01800



SAAB







TD04TS-10T-8.5

MITSUBISHI

49377-07300

8200124944

RENAULT

Velsatis/ Avantime

Fu R turbo



TD05-10A

MITSUBISHI

49178-00550



MITSUBISHI







TD05H-12B-6

MITSUBISHI

49178-07200

60513721

ALFA ROMEO

164 2.5TD

M631AT20C



TD05H-14G-10

MITSUBISHI

49178-03123

28230-45100

HYUNDAI

Mighty 3.5 ton

D4DA,4D34TI



TD05H-16G

MITSUBISHI

49178-06310

14412AA092

SUBARU

Wrx

EJ20



TD05-16G

MITSUBISHI

49178-05200

MD171223

MITSUBISHI

Eagle Talon 2.0

4G63 upgraded



TD06-17A

MITSUBISHI

49179-00100



MITSUBISHI







TD06H-14C-14

MITSUBISHI

49179-00451



CATERPILLER







TD06H-16M-12

MITSUBISHI

49179-02230



CATERPILLER







TD06-19C-8

MITSUBISHI

49179-01130



MITSUBISHI







TD09-360RC

MITSUBISHI

49132-04000



CATERPILLER







TD13M-48QR0

MITSUBISHI

49182-05210



MITSUBISHI







TE04H

MITSUBISHI

49138-02400

04898546AB

CHRYSLER

STRATUS CHRYSLER




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alan
18-03-2012, 04:03 PM
note the 18th one down........ tdo3-07t mazda !!!! 19th opel 20th /vg mitsubishi, seems there are more td03-07t and td03-07t/vg users i wonder if the internals are the same and the differences are purely external

poloquet
18-03-2012, 05:30 PM
The parts number for our turbo's are actually MR299237 and MR299235. BACK AND FRONT correct me anyone if I wrong.

Davezj
18-03-2012, 06:12 PM
yep that is what i get from ASA,

12510AL = MR299235 Turbo LH
12510AR = MR299237 Turbo RH

this is just a thought,
But i am assuming mitsi don't actually make our turbo's in house. They buy them in from there supplier, and that supplier sells them to other car companies as well.
who

poloquet
18-03-2012, 06:15 PM
The numbers on the turbos you are looking for are 49131-04100(front)
49131-04300(back)

alan
18-03-2012, 06:34 PM
those numbers are the housings only and do not refer to internal working parts

Davezj
18-03-2012, 06:42 PM
TD03-07T

MITSUBISHI

49131-04300

MR312554

MAZDA





this is the one you mean.

where did you get the list of turbo's from?
is this just a list of any turbo made with a mitsi part number.

Mazda and Mitsi have worked together on platfrom sharing project i believe, so why would they not share turbo's. well that is what i believe.

I do know the Diesel turbo's and petrol turbo's are completely different beasts.
Petrol turbo's well spin much faster due to the higher revs of the engine driving them, and the elivated boost levels that petrol cars require to make the difference in performance. diesel turbos's do not need to be as refined and balanced as petrol turbo's
the only reason i say this, is because quite a few of the turbo's you have list are for diesel cars/trucks.

i am rambling now,
this is the data from the other thread.
so it looks like this mazda turbo is the same as our rear turbo.

This is the Main data i have..
6A13(R) 0 0 - TD03-07T 49131-04100 MR299236
6A13(L) 0 0 - TD03-07T 49131-04300 MR312554

which seem reasonable.

alan
18-03-2012, 06:54 PM
indeed dave, therefor the internal working parts should be the same also, for instance the service kits dont seem to be broken down any further than td03 and again that is also the same kit as being offered for the tf035also the bmw 335i also has td03-07t turbos tho i bet they wont fit our cars come to think of it
http://www.melett.com/turbo-buildsheets.php?partno=td03&Submit=Go
that should link to melett . its not where i found the original but its just about the same

Davezj
18-03-2012, 07:06 PM
the bmw 335i also has td03-07t turbos tho i bet they wont fit our cars

you are right there, as i believe the turbo's are integral to the exhaust manifolds.
if you change the turbo you change the exhaust manifold.

poloquet
18-03-2012, 07:13 PM
I believe the link posted by alan earlier covers our turbos from research. The aliexpress link

Davezj
18-03-2012, 07:15 PM
in which case
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/359920746-Mitsubishi-TD02-Turbocharger-Repair-kit-No-50000-50027-wholesalers.html

$15 refurb kit $32 shipping
it does not sound like a quality product, but you can never tell until you try it. it might a perfect copy and do the job very well at an increadibly cheap price.

Wodjno
18-03-2012, 07:25 PM
Sorry.. On nights last night and today busy with Mothers day and Sam(my sons 14th Birthday) /HappyBD. So no time to look today..
On nights again tonight. But off for 8 days, so will have a look tomorrow and dig them out..

alan
18-03-2012, 07:35 PM
now then,turbo international,see pages 11 and 12,http://www.turbointernational.com/images/catalog-pdf/Catalog-Mitsubishi.pdf
service parts identified bolty on bits such as housings are not included,again i believe these to be auto manufacturer specific plus a pic too lol
also service kit part number on page 2 journal bearings page 3 thrust ring /collars page 5(also fit td04)im now going cock eyed and need a drink

poloquet
18-03-2012, 07:36 PM
Do you have turbos joda

Davezj
18-03-2012, 07:37 PM
Sorry.. On nights last night and today busy with Mothers day and Sam(my sons 14th Birthday) /HappyBD. So no time to look today..
On nights again tonight. But off for 8 days, so will have a look tomorrow and dig them out..

glenn,
can you have a look at the links that alan posted up the aliexpress, does it look like everything i would need to do a rebuild?

crazydriver81
18-03-2012, 07:43 PM
Wasn't IHI Japan manufacturing all those TD-Turbos? At least the TF-Turbos are made by IHI Japan. Maybe this can be of help?

Davezj
18-03-2012, 07:48 PM
now then,turbo international,see pages 11 and 12,http://www.turbointernational.com/images/catalog-pdf/Catalog-Mitsubishi.pdf
service parts identified bolty on bits such as housings are not included,again i believe these to be auto manufacturer specific plus a pic too lol

this is good info, but do you know of a reputable supplier for these parts the mellet site will only supply to a turbo builder not to an individual.
i would rather pay £50 for a kit and know it is a quality product, as upposed to £10 for the kit and £25 for shipping.

alan
18-03-2012, 08:04 PM
you could get a price direct from turbo international, but as to if they make them them selfs or buy them in , (prob from china ) i have no idea. saying that they are a fair size and based in the states so are prob paranoid about quality,they also have a european distribution warehouse to get round import taxs apparently lol

alan
18-03-2012, 08:09 PM
http://www.turbointernational.com/products/products2.asp they have a complete catalogue in pdf form attached to this page its 581 pages long.......... bloody hell i aint going through that lot

Davezj
18-03-2012, 08:15 PM
that seems like a good suggestion.
maybe i will go down both routes to compare products.
it still does not answer the question, if i can actually do the the rebuild of my own turbo's.
i will have to wait and see.

alan
18-03-2012, 08:22 PM
from what i have seen is that unless you fubar the housing then you can get all the other working parts including cartridge etc etc, so dont use a hammer on em and ive seen a fitting guide somewhere today, i guess / hope that can wait a bit, my fingers are several mm shorter that when i got up today

poloquet
18-03-2012, 09:36 PM
I am going to try to get in contact with the company in the US. What specific turbo number based on there catalog i have to ask them about. ????

alan
18-03-2012, 10:02 PM
7-e-2411 for a repair kit otherwise take a look through the huge catalogue pdf of theirs, its comprehensive thats for sure, thats code for very very big lol

Davezj
18-03-2012, 10:17 PM
i have alread sent them a part request enquirey
requesting prices for
major service kit
minor service kit
and full CHRA (cartridge)

so i will wait to hear from them.

adaxo
18-03-2012, 10:58 PM
it still does not answer the question, if i can actually do the the rebuild of my own turbo's.
i will have to wait and see.

Dave have a look at this sort of guides, they should give you some ideas of what is involved

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZtP949JHU

poloquet
18-03-2012, 10:58 PM
Awaiting there response. Thanks

poloquet
18-03-2012, 11:06 PM
Is this code 7-e-2411 for both front and back turbos. Aren't the front turbos smaller????

Davezj
19-03-2012, 12:02 AM
both turbos are the same internals, but different outer cases.

Davezj
19-03-2012, 12:25 AM
cheers adam that is a very video.

and here is the rebuild video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=wqXe0ln7-WQ
if it goes as smooth as this then i would be very happy.

these 2 videos are exactly what i thought was involved in refurbishing a turbo. apart from the balancing process anyway.

i will definitely be doing this, but i will scribe the shaft nut and wheel, also scribe the compressor housing to the cartridge and exhaust housing to cartridge to ensure everything lines up.

however i don't expect thing to go that smoothly as my turbo's have been lock together for the last 13 years, not like the rearly new looking tubro in the video.

Davezj
19-03-2012, 08:28 PM
I have had a response from turbo international, and it surprised me a bit.question and response as follows,

Hi All,
I am interested in some prices for the following,
Turbo Service Kit for a Mitsubishi TD03 -07T
Major Kit
Minor Kit
I believe one of the above kits is 7-E-2411
Can you also give me a price for a CHRA plus assembly seals.
I am try to source a quality product that will be produced to the required tolerances, there are so many china copies and knock off's of sub standard quality, I thought I would try source the parts I need from a reputable company like yourself.
Thanks in Advance and all help gratefully received.
Dave

Hello Dave,

Thank you for your interest with Turbo International.

Regarding the kit you are looking for. We have found that many of the turbo labeled TD03 end up having TD02 components. Can you confirm that you have a true TD03?

In addition, CHRA we will not have available for TD03 unfortunately.

Look forward to your comments

Regards,

Christopher Muñoz
International Sales
Phone. 1-760-476-1444 (ext 16)
Direct. 1-619-403-9042 (cell)
Fax. 1-760-476-1414
munozchristopher@hotmail.com (msngr)
munozchristopher (skype)

I was under the impression that the turbo's on the VR4 are true TD03-07T but he has put doubt in my mind now.
does anyone have a diffinative answer.
if there is no answer, how do i check, is the compressor wheel marked up with part numbers

scott.mohekey
19-03-2012, 09:20 PM
Actually.. this sort of rings true with something we discovered here. Kayne (Goku) is putting a 6a13tt into his 7g, and has used the exhaust housings (I think, one of the housings) from the 7g's td025s on the td03s from the 6a13tt. Maybe the td03's we have share the core with the td025s?

poloquet
19-03-2012, 09:32 PM
Dave you should give him the numbers on the turbo. Maybe then he would be able to specify which kit.

Davezj
19-03-2012, 09:43 PM
do you mean these numbers,
TD03-07T 49131-04100 MR299236
TD03-07T 49131-04300 MR312554

wold you send the 49131 numbers or the mitsi part numbers or both?

poloquet
20-03-2012, 12:44 AM
Both I have also found another site located in the U.k :-(. Which might help you they however don't have our turbos listed in there catalogue but you never know.

http://www.turbotechnics.com

alan
23-03-2012, 03:56 PM
actually dave if you take a look at the aliexpress link it indeed does state td 02, so i gather fromm that that the bearings and seals are universal between the two, now then take a look at this link and see what you make of it, they claim gt45 gt42 and its a universal just take a look at the list of compatible vehicles, another turbo myth busted ?
http://stores.ebay.com/Speed-Daddy-Com/Turbocharger-Rebuild-Kit-/_i.html?_nkw=Mitsubishi+Galant+VR4&_fsub=3195751018

alan
23-03-2012, 04:21 PM
in answer to yr question dave, i think the only way to check the chra for part numbers is to find someone with a rooted one and pull the thing apart, i will keep looking and see what turns up though

alan
23-03-2012, 04:30 PM
49131-04100

TD03-07T

Mitsubishi



49131-08100

TD03-07T
Mitsubishi
TD03-07T


Details..



49131-04300

TD03-07T

Mitsubishi



49131-08110

TD03-07T
Mitsubishi
TD03-07T


Details.. from the melett website,49131-08100/08110 refers to the chra

alan
23-03-2012, 04:34 PM
above part numbers confirmed on turbo master website

alan
23-03-2012, 04:57 PM
on the turbo master link
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/downloads/catalog_06_mitsubishi.pdf
see td02mr2-04k same chra

interestingly it seems that 41030-08100 is mits specific while 41030-04300 is also listed as mazda

Davezj
23-03-2012, 06:16 PM
actually dave if you take a look at the aliexpress link it indeed does state td 02, so i gather fromm that that the bearings and seals are universal between the two, now then take a look at this link and see what you make of it, they claim gt45 gt42 and its a universal just take a look at the list of compatible vehicles, another turbo myth busted ?
http://stores.ebay.com/Speed-Daddy-Com/Turbocharger-Rebuild-Kit-/_i.html?_nkw=Mitsubishi+Galant+VR4&_fsub=3195751018

i can guarentee you that the gt45 turbo will not fit a VR4 in a swap out situationwith our TD03-07T there is not enough room for it to fit.
if you have enough money and time any turbo can fit any car, you are not lying if you say it is compatable with all these cars, it will not fit in the factory location using the factory bolt holes, but it could be made to fit.
well that is how i read that bit of ebay shop wording.

It is still a good bit of information to have as reference.

Davezj
23-03-2012, 06:21 PM
in answer to yr question dave, i think the only way to check the chra for part numbers is to find someone with a rooted one and pull the thing apart, i will keep looking and see what turns up though

i have 4 old turbos in the shed, 2 i don't know what the state of them is as i bought them on ebay (suposed to be good).
2 were off my old VR4 and they did not smoke when under load or when comming off the accelerator and coasting down a hill.
these are the turbo's i am going to rebuild, and swap a pair out for the ones on my current VR4 which do smoke under load but only when i initially set off on a journey.

i will see what happens when i take the first one apart.

alan
23-03-2012, 07:25 PM
i agree with what yr saying dave,the tubs we have seem to share parts with several other turbos,if nothing else the bits are available with a bit of a search. perhaps they should be described as td03-07t-ish

Davezj
29-03-2012, 10:01 PM
I found this nice write up for stripping and rebuilding a TD03, it is not a VR4 turbo but a volvo one, but i think it is pretty similar.
it is a good read and the bit at the end about impoved boosting and better MPG. which would be nice.

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=48611

Wodjno
29-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Forgot about this. Here's pics of what's in the kits I have. 52368

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Davezj
29-03-2012, 10:30 PM
that looks like quite a comprehensive kit.
where did you get it, and how much?

the only parts i don't know what to do with are the little black flat spring washers, not the ones that you can see the gap in as these are the shaft oil seals, the ones near the top of the picture.
i can't find any reference for the placement of there 2 small black spring washer.

i suppose the only way to know is to strip one of my spare turbo's and check.
which i will do, maybe at our northwest meet this month in a couple of weeks.

alan
29-04-2012, 03:14 PM
did you manage to get yr turbos stripped Dave and if so what did you find ?

Davezj
29-04-2012, 03:43 PM
No i have not stripped the yet.

just not got round to it. i should do it.
i need to know what the large o-ring size is on the char to compressor housing seal so i can get hold of a few as the rebuild kit i bought did not have any in.

Davezj
29-04-2012, 04:13 PM
did you manage to get yr turbos stripped Dave and if so what did you find ?

alan, do you know where the litle black washers (not the spring clips) go in the turbo assembly.

i can't see where they go in any of the turbo build instructions i have read, it not in the volvo build above, but you can see them in the kit that he is fitting to the turbo.

any ideas?

alan
29-04-2012, 04:52 PM
in short i dont know, im guessin here but if as i suspect these kits are a generic td03 then they may be put in to suit a common and as yet unknown td03 variant, i am half thinking about buying a couple of old turbos and stripping the pair to see whats what, then getting a few kits together to see which is the best, failing that taking the whole lot to a manufacturer and seeing what they can do. i used to have an o ring gauge from when i worked for james walker, their o ring centre is in cockermouth and i imagine they still do them, however it may be best to send the o ring to them to identify the material correctly too, you can just ask for a price and availability for enclosed item, dont mean you have to get it from them though :whistle:

alan
29-04-2012, 05:00 PM
as for the washers, might they be spacers for the bearings ? again i cant say as ive not yet pulled one of these to pieces, though i think i may do soon, just to satisfy curiosity if nothing else, that and one rebuilt i will have spares,unless someone who shall be nameless talks me in to getting another vr4 and going the whole hog !. sorry i cant be of any real help untill i get off my bum and buy a couple

Davezj
13-05-2012, 09:16 PM
i have started my turbo rebuild.

i have stripped down one of my spare turbo's and found some interesting stuff, i will put some pics up tomorrow.

stripping them down is relatively straight forward, i just have to get some parafin for my parts washer tomorrow and i can get scrubbing, the turbo did have an oil leak and it was from the exhaust side, it had all corbonised on the internal heat shield which sits behind the exhaust turbine wheel. this should all clean up nicely but i have slight issue.

there is one seal that is a bit odd and i am not sure where to get a replacement.
it is the compressor side turbine housing to centre cartridge seal, which in all other turbos i have seen stripped down is a large o-ring running round the edge of the compressor turbine backing plate.
It is the large o-ring in the kit that genn (Wodjno) posted the picture of above.
however in my case it was a very thin flat paper/fibre seal which just falls to pieces when the housing was split apart. it is easy enough to make a paper /fibre gasket out of a sheet of gasket material. Which is probably why i did not get a large O0ring in the rebuild kit i bought.

on a side note i did not find any of the black washers in the turbo i stripped down. but everything else was as experted.
as i say i will post up some pics of the individual parts stripped down, and show you what i am going to replace.

Davezj
14-05-2012, 09:33 PM
well i have been doing some cleaning and all parts are now spick and span after a good scrub clean in my paraffin parts washer, then a spray with carb cleaner to remove the paraffin.

i just need to assemble the turbo now, oh once i find a gasket for the catridge to compressor housing.

off i go to ebay to find some locktight and gasket paper.

Davezj
20-05-2012, 10:40 PM
well i have just done my first turbo rebuild.

quite a nice experience really.

I bought some gasket paper in various thicknesses to find a one that would work. got some threadlock so i thought i would give it a go this afternoon, sat in the livingroom with a small table, a box of turbo bits, some assembly lube, threadlock, torque rench, circlip pliers, gasket paper, pair of scissors, and ball of steel.

all seemed to go well, but you don't really know how it will turn out until i fit the turbo to my car. all the scribe lines lined up at the end of the build, and there is no shaft play, and the turbines spin freely. i was happy with the result

i will do a write up with pictures, when i get a chance to the rear turbo, i did not want to complicate things with the build of my first turbo with papping a bearing, while lubing it up.



on a side note i found out where the little black washer go, they are the stopper washer that fit into some grooves inside the cartridge, that stop the jernal bearing from sliding too far inside the cartridge.It seems that these can be black thin spring washers (about a turnand a half of a spring) or an internal circlip.

veegeeta
21-05-2012, 09:50 AM
would be great to see pics as ive only ever made the housing gasket before have removed shaft too but thats as far as i got not sure about the rest . i have 2 spare that i want to rebuild.

paulbonner84
12-10-2015, 02:40 PM
well i have just done my first turbo rebuild.

quite a nice experience really.

I bought some gasket paper in various thicknesses to find a one that would work. got some threadlock so i thought i would give it a go this afternoon, sat in the livingroom with a small table, a box of turbo bits, some assembly lube, threadlock, torque rench, circlip pliers, gasket paper, pair of scissors, and ball of steel.

all seemed to go well, but you don't really know how it will turn out until i fit the turbo to my car. all the scribe lines lined up at the end of the build, and there is no shaft play, and the turbines spin freely. i was happy with the result

i will do a write up with pictures, when i get a chance to the rear turbo, i did not want to complicate things with the build of my first turbo with papping a bearing, while lubing it up.



on a side note i found out where the little black washer go, they are the stopper washer that fit into some grooves inside the cartridge, that stop the jernal bearing from sliding too far inside the cartridge.It seems that these can be black thin spring washers (about a turnand a half of a spring) or an internal circlip.
How did it go and what kit did you get as my tubs have reached the end of there lives now

Davezj
12-10-2015, 09:29 PM
i have not used the turbo yet, i have never had the need to.

paulbonner84
13-10-2015, 06:45 AM
i have not used the turbo yet, i have never had the need to.

where did you get the kit from tho as i want to refurb/rebuild mine because thay are really smoking now

Davezj
13-10-2015, 01:49 PM
ebay kits, but they would have come from china originally most of them do even though they might be sold from a UK address. i bought 5 TD04L rebuild kits direct from china for the cost of one being sold on ebay. exactly the same packaging and labeling. mind you the ebay kit was only £23 i think.

the TD03 rebuild kit i bought was marked up as TD025 kit but i did my background checks and it was the correct kit. It only cost about £15 delivered but it was not a full kit you will understand what i mean when you look at the kits in more detail.

the TD03-7T our turbo has a superback compressor wheel designated by the 'T' in the number. the other type is flatback and you do not want one of these kits.

Example only not the correct kits for our TD03 turbos, this shows the difference between superback and flatback and partial kits.

This is a Superback kit, you can just about see in the picture when you zoom in, the convaved dush in the top of the big stepside stainless disc at the top of the picture (picture a bit grainy)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-rebuild-repair-service-kit-Mitsubishi-TD02-TD025-TD03-Turbocharger-S-BACK-/391212293210?hash=item5b1611dc5a

flatback kit you do not want, again you can see the top of the big stainless stepside disk it is FLAT
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TD02-TD025-TF025-TURBO-SERVICE-REPAIR-REBUILD-KIT-FOR-FLAT-BACK-COM-WHEEL-/181293141201?hash=item2a35e9ccd1

this is a partial kit note the lack of exhaust heat shield (metal disk cone thing) oil shield, plus lots of other stuff.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-rebuild-repair-service-kit-Mitsubishi-TD02-TD025-TD03-Turbocharger-49173-/391212283804?hash=item5b1611b79c

all of the above are example only not the kits to buy.

veegeeta
05-03-2016, 03:47 AM
^do you have the right link for the right kits yet dave?