Battery to boot, examples.

[BraindG]

Hey guys,

I'm considering moving the battery to the boot again, I have all the cables and joins, will get a sealed battery etc - Just looking for some examples of what others have done, where the battery has been placed and how it was strapped in.

Please could you post some images of your boot conversion? - with possible notes about "wish-i-thought-of-that-before"?

Examples
CANDEE - Link (http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?63744-Battery-relocation&p=703240&viewfull=1#post703240)

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Fully - Link (http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?27626-Install-my-mods&p=291415&viewfull=1#post291415)

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Atik - Link (http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?56973-Nicks-garage-meet-Friday-22nd-April&p=633571&viewfull=1#post633571) (Foxdie installation)

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OSiRiS - Link (http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?16383-Battery-Relocation-amp-Cold-Air-Box)

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Thanks
Barry

[Humpty's Revenge]

Mines in the spare wheel well using the original plastic tray from the front with the original clamp as well

I also have a large fuse/holder screwed to the wheel well wall facing you, I've used a normal battery with a pipe going from the breather down through the floor

I would take a pickie but the boot is a bit full up at the mo!

[BraindG]

any on the site from when you did it?

[Humpty's Revenge]

any on the site from when you did it?

Not sure on that one?

[BraindG]

ok no worries, thank you.

[Humpty's Revenge]

If I get 5 minutes dude Ill go take some photo's, failing that when I did Jason's there were photo's taken of that!

I'm sure if Jason doesn't have them Atik will?

[BraindG]

not stress to much, leave it for now - lets wait for some others to respond.

[Nick Mann]

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?56973-Nicks-garage-meet-Friday-22nd-April

Post # 86 Jason puts up a few snippets of info (there are others in the thread, but that looks like the most applicable) and a couple of posts down there is at least one photo of the battery in the boot.

[BraindG]

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?56973-Nicks-garage-meet-Friday-22nd-April

Post # 86 Jason puts up a few snippets of info (there are others in the thread, but that looks like the most applicable) and a couple of posts down there is at least one photo of the battery in the boot.

Cool, cheers - ive added to the collection in #1.

Btw, its possible to link directly to posts again, by copying the link on the post number (see links in #1 as example)

[CANDEE]

Barry, mine has a replacement false floor of 18mm MDF to give it some strength, im going to rerun the power cable and put the fuse holders up on the side of the boot, rather than on the floor how they are now(have three atm).

The other thing to worry about is the grounding, I have mine done to a lug welded on the chassis rail for maximum effect. ;)

[Humpty's Revenge]

My earth is bolted to the spare wheel bolt hole

[foxdie]

Although Atik took the photos, the boot listed as "Atik" above is actually my boot :)

[CANDEE]

My earth is bolted to the spare wheel bolt hole
Mine used to be there, but I have a spare.. ;) And if you have to use it the whole car looses power for obvious reasons.

[BraindG]

Barry, mine has a replacement false floor of 18mm MDF to give it some strength, im going to rerun the power cable and put the fuse holders up on the side of the boot, rather than on the floor how they are now(have three atm).

The other thing to worry about is the grounding, I have mine done to a lug welded on the chassis rail for maximum effect. ;)

Cool, dont suppose you have some pics of the false floor and lug?

[BraindG]

I can't seem to find any of those Aquatrack Marine Battery Holders in the UK, only AU :( - I kinda like the look of them, anyone from UK come across a retailer that has them or sells a similair product?

[Humpty's Revenge]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Boats-Parts-Accessories-/169485/i.html?_nkw=battery+box&_catref=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m1538

[BraindG]

Cheers Steve.

K, stupid question time.... /drumroll

With the above boxes, can i get any old battery or does the battery still have to be sealed? - im wondering whether the box becomes the seal you see..

[swinks]

I've found that getting cable through firewall is the real challenge, not the actual location of battery in the boot. :)
Mine example:
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[CANDEE]

K, stupid question time.... /drumroll

With the above boxes, can i get any old battery or does the battery still have to be sealed? - im wondering whether the box becomes the seal you see..
Well the box doesnt actually seal, but its designed as a vessel if there are any leaks.

Basically over here you can run a gel/agm/dry cell battery without a battery box(like in a racecar), but you run the risk of shorting the terminals if they are exposed.

With the box you have the safety of not worrying about it.

You can run a "normal" battery in the box as it provides an enclosure to contain any acid spils(even the so called sealed/no maintenance ones can still spill), however you will need to vent the box to outside the boot, to avoid gas buildup in the box while charging.

I will hunt up some pics for you as requested above. :)

[BraindG]

Cool cheers, think that's answered my question, will get a sealed battery me think, CBA with venting :)

Looking forwards to pics, thanks!

[Gly]

heres mine. no subs now though

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?17841-when-bordom-sets-in-DIY-Aluminium-Battery-Box&highlight=battery+box

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[Gly]

also keep in mind, with the plastic box's they are fairly flimsy and dont actually hold the battery fixed,
and you really should bolt a metal tray in the bottom, and something to hold the battery.

you can cut up the factory battery tray and use that if your box is big enough,
this also lets you use the original battery clamp.

[BraindG]

Oh really, seems that the boxes are purely Aesthetic and no more?

So basically, fit MDF to boot, carpet it - fit a tray inside box screw/bolt to MDF then secure battery to tray.

Mmm, ok thanks for that info, really helpful!

[Badger_01]

How much did that battery cost?

[Gly]

pretty much, and keeps any spill contained.

when i used a plastic box, and even now with my alloy box, i used the factory tray sitting in the box with a clamp.
bolted all the way through the car floor, and couple of over-sized washers underneath keep it all secure.

build it to with stand the worst, (car rolling over) dont want a battery flying around trying to kill you and the occupants.

[Gly]

How much did that battery cost?

mine?? $450 or there abouts.

[Badger_01]

$450? Woah damn thats expensive haha but I take it was worth it?

[CANDEE]

You can get Endurant Crankmaster CM750AGM for about $400, these are basically a Yellow Top Optima(similar to the Orbital Carsten has). They are rated at 750cca, but mine was tested at 1150cca.. ;)

The Optimas are still over the $700 mark, my one lasted about 8/9 years, still actually holds charge and starts a car fine, just didnt like being in the car for a month(though this might have been alarm related). On the other side Wynn's yellowtop lasted 3 years and wont take any charge.... While my Endurant is still fine, though it usually lives on a smart charger these days...

[CANDEE]

Ok dont really have any floor pics(car is back together and is now full of crap as im moving next weekend...).

Heres the ground lug:
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Basically the floor is lifted by 5 pieces of 18mm mdf(three at the front and two wider ones at the back) These are glued to the boot floor, then there is a full layer made of 4 pieces, which are screwed to the spacers.

The top layer is made of 4 pieces, one main piece with a trapdoor for the spare, and two side "wings" like so:
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Then its just covered with carpet.

[Gly]

yep what Jeremy said about the battery's, mines 7ish? years old.
still starts the car well, but it is getting on the tired side, only holds a charge that can start the car for about 4 weeks.

on the look out for its replacement but no hurry.

[BraindG]

Cool, thanks for the pictures Jeremy.

[BraindG]

What's the best method for getting the rubber back on the white plastic washer thingy?

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[BraindG]

Found it, there are four clips....

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[CANDEE]

I dont usually use that bung, I usually use the one on the right of the first pic, though that one is pretty good too. :)

[BraindG]

Yeah, I tried that one first, but I couldn't figure out whether I could get a cable through, felt like there wasn't a way through for the cable, hence using the other one.

[swinks]

Barry, I've found much better to use grommet shown in my thread. :)

[Gly]

CANDEE

hey Jeremy, where did you buy the Endurant Crankmaster from???

[CANDEE]

CANDEE

hey Jeremy, where did you buy the Endurant Crankmaster from???
I got mine from Hutt City Auto Parts down here in Welly, but you should be able to get one from any Hella/Endurant supplier. Just ask for a CM24/750AGM (http://www.hcb.co.nz/hella_highperformance.htm)(the new code on the pdf on the page).

[pezza]

How did this go Barry?

Time for me to tackle this in the 6g whilst irradicating some earthing issues.. For those who have done this, did you run the new cable to the previous battery positive connector in the engine bay or did you run new cables to alternator, starter etc? Any under bonnet/hood shots?

Any suggestions on gauge of wire?

Any issues with running power cable through the same points as say lekky boost controller wires etc?

Cheers

Dek

[BraindG]

I've not started it yet mate, got side tracked with Light Painting :)

First, i need to buy a Battery, which is gonna cost about 180 quid..

for the cable I used 0 gauge, I plan on welding a bracket on to chassis for the Negative Terminal, rather than running two cables.

[pezza]

I've not started it yet mate, got side tracked with Light Painting :)

First, i need to buy a Battery, which is gonna cost about 180 quid..

for the cable I used 0 gauge, I plan on welding a bracket on to chassis for the Negative Terminal, rather than running two cables.

Cheers Barry, I will hunt around for some more docs/guides ere and start collecting bits I may need. Getting 0 gauge wire through bulkhead should be interesting..

Calling Mr Miller!!??! Have you started/completed this yet on the RS?

[miller]

Cheers Barry, I will hunt around for some more docs/guides ere and start collecting bits I may need. Getting 0 gauge wire through bulkhead should be interesting..

Calling Mr Miller!!??! Have you started/completed this yet on the RS?

All done on mine! Lets see if I can get some pics up....

Edit, no pics so to speak.

My cable is run under the car until it meets the rear passenger seat floorpan, it enteres car up here then into the boot. It helps on mine as the protector plates have enough of a gap to run the cable through.

Otherwise there is a big hole in firewall on the passenger side, remove the windscreen washer bottle and you will see it beneath that....I would use this if its available, just unsure on the 6g

[pezza]

Cheers Mike, I will take a look see if its the same on the galant.. Running the cable down the passenger side would be ideal.. an under bonnet shot of how its all connected up front would be good when you have time, plus would be good to see what other goodies you got installed in there :D

[miller]

Cheers Mike, I will take a look see if its the same on the galant.. Running the cable down the passenger side would be ideal.. an under bonnet shot of how its all connected up front would be good when you have time, plus would be good to see what other goodies you got installed in there :D

I havent got the car with me, its at Gowfs being prepped/worked on for Ring and Spa trip in a couple of weeks!

[Wodjno]

I havent got the car with me, its at Gowfs being prepped/worked on for Ring and Spa trip in a couple of weeks!

Perfect for Dek /yes

[pezza]

/yes

Ahh am due to catch up with him so can go see how its been done...

:-)