abs light / brake pedal hesitating ?

[Tayhlor VR4]

so my abs light came on today and i was like wtf ? as i was coming to a corner i put my foot on the brakes ( not too hard ) and the brake pedal was tapping it fealt like it was tapping against my foot ? im sure its not the break pedal itself as its really secure when i pressed against it hard with the car off , anyone had this happen to them before ? was a bit scary with the break pedal having a hestitating feeling , also ayc light came on then went off , when i start the car in neutral the ayc 3 bar light stays on for a couple of seconds then goes off but abs light stays on ?

[Subaru ETA]

Code check it and see what comes up

[wintertidenz]

Usually when ABS kicks in there is a pulsing kind of feeling - not through the pedal though. I'd agree with David and check those codes - the ABS system may be playing up.

[Confused]

I'd say that you've got an ABS reluctor ring that's split.

I had a ring on the passenger side rear crack - this put the ABS light on in the dash, and gave a pulsating of the brake pedal on light braking.


The ABS works by listening to a tone generated by the toothed ring going past the sensor - there are 42 teeth on the ring, and they are evenly spaced. If the tone changes suddenly or stops, then it knows that the speed of that wheel has changed compared to the other wheels - so it pulses the brake on that wheel to "unlock" it. This is the pulsing that you feel through the pedal.

When the toothed ring has a slight split, it gives a ever so slight change in this tone - most noticeable on light breaking (because the ABS unit isn't expecting that change in tone with the braking pressure that's been applied)


A new ABS reluctor ring itself will only cost about £10-15 (or your regional equivalent) - and it'll take about an hour or two to fit.


As others say - pull the fault codes using the flashy-dash process and a paperclip - I'll almost guarantee it'll point you at a wheel speed sensor - if the AYC lights also lit up when this happened, I'd say it'll be a rear.

[BubbaLeggyVR4]

Mine used to do this is the wet, especially after a night of wet stuff with wheels left on lock.
Would drive fine then all of a sudden start doing it, but would start immediately if left on lock, and would be a code for whichever wheel was turned out.
After clearing codes and remembering to leave wheels straight it stopped occuring :)

Jus my tuppence :)

[swinks]

Reluctor rings...
1. Front: 65.9mm ID, 43 teeth, product code 43-T-659
2. Rear: 68.9mm ID, 43 teeth, product code 43-T-689

Shared with:
Lancer Evo 4 - 9
Galant n/a

[Tayhlor VR4]

any idea where to buy these in new zealand ? and how would i remove/replace the ring ? thanks

[swinks]

Here some from eBay, shipping worldwide:
Front:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-GALANT-92-04-FRONT-ABS-RELUCTOR-RING-PRO-COAT-ABS002-/290986093058?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGalant&hash=item43c01f6a02
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-GALANT-DRIVESHAFT-NEW-ABS-RELUCTOR-RING-/150698834816?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item231659bb80

Rear:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-LANCER-EVO-7-00-03-REAR-ABS-RELUCTOR-RING-PRO-COAT-ABS134-/290906065616?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AMitsubishi&hash=item43bb5a4ad0


Replacement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2H53JTL3uo

[Tayhlor VR4]

Here some from eBay, shipping worldwide:
Front:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-GALANT-92-04-FRONT-ABS-RELUCTOR-RING-PRO-COAT-ABS002-/290986093058?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AGalant&hash=item43c01f6a02
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-GALANT-DRIVESHAFT-NEW-ABS-RELUCTOR-RING-/150698834816?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item231659bb80

Rear:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MITSUBISHI-LANCER-EVO-7-00-03-REAR-ABS-RELUCTOR-RING-PRO-COAT-ABS134-/290906065616?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AMitsubishi&hash=item43bb5a4ad0


Replacement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2H53JTL3uo

thanks swinks

[Tayhlor VR4]

how do i disable my abs ? is there something i can do that will stop the pulsing in the brake pedal and take the abs light away ?

[Subaru ETA]

Pull the abs fuse. The light will still be on tho.
Have you actually code checked it yet?

[Confused]

If the reluctor ring is damaged, it will also cause issues with the ASC and AYC, as well as the ABS.

It'll take you 2 minutes to pull the fault codes, and about 15 minutes to check the rings where it is broken (that time will include jacking the car up!)

[Tayhlor VR4]

sorry how do i pull fault codes ?

[Confused]

Look at this thread (http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?68869-Full-list-of-engine-codes-update)

[Nick Mann]

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?70422
Read down the thread - this is a good place to start.

[Tayhlor VR4]

i think ive got it sorted now how do i reset the abs light ? i heard you had to turn the key 3 times or something along those lines ?

[wintertidenz]

Turn the car on, drive it for a bit then turn it off. Wait for a good minute or two, turn it back on, let it idle for a minute, then back off.
Repeat this a couple of times and it should clear the ABS light on the third go when it detects no fault.

Otherwise just disconnect the battery for 10 minutes.