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Nice to know you like them Chris. There in the garage for the winter at the minute & the car is back on standard wheels. There are a couple of members on here had the same wheels. Glenn had them on his first VR4 & old members Kelly & Ben had them on there car. I got them for a bargain price of £150 with tyres of PT. They do give the car a diffrent look to some other wheels that other members put on there cars.