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    Y I will send you a cartridge of S2000 to try (I have faith here) and its less than 1/3rd of the price of the Military spec Mobil. Have you looked at ZX1 , we stock this too.
    Hi all

    Just reviving this thread, as I have a sticking caliper right now.

    As this thread is a bit old, whats the consensus on what to use, now that its 2 and 1/2 years later?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_y
    Hi all

    Just reviving this thread, as I have a sticking caliper right now.

    As this thread is a bit old, whats the consensus on what to use, now that its 2 and 1/2 years later?
    I have use this Martin ..
    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...22b0s1397p3884

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    When we rebuilt Isaac's brakes we found that ceratec didn't cope too well with the heat and had turned quite thick and gloopy, though it hadn't caused the pins to sieze up.

    My little pot of Mobilgrease is still working fine if you can get hold of that anywhere.

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    dont use copper grease!! have been told by race brakes in mt eden that they have seen ALOT of those glide bolts seize up due to ppl using that. including my own brakes

    use rubber grease and alot of it lol... any good hydraulic store should sell it.. about $20 for a tube and lasts ages

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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_y
    Hi all

    Just reviving this thread, as I have a sticking caliper right now.

    As this thread is a bit old, whats the consensus on what to use, now that its 2 and 1/2 years later?
    I used some of Kenneth's lithium grease when we did mine - it was Valvoline as I recall. Blue in colour.

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    Well, I bought that one from the camskill link.

    Will let you know how I get on.

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    I've just been having a read through this old thread while trying to figure out what to use on my sliders, and wondered whether this Inox mx6 grease would be suitable? It's a high temp grease with teflon and safe on rubber seals.

    INOX-mx6 ... contains additives to protect against corrosion and oxidation.

    ... has a temperature range of -30 °C to an extremely high temperature (HAS NO MELTING POINT).

    ... highly suitable for all bearings, bushes, universals, etc used in Bitumen Transporting and Laying Machinery, Foundries, Paint Baking Ovens and all other high temperature applications.

    http://www.inox-mx3.com/product_deta...D=APPLICATIONS

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    No, it would not - it's PAO based. You need a grease that is not going to cause rubber parts to swell.

    In my subsequent research I've uncovered a few suitable greases:

    Fuchs Renolit Red Rubber Grease
    Permatex 24115
    Permatex 24110
    Dow-Corning Molykote G807
    Dow-Corning Molykote 44
    Lucas Girling Red rubber brake grease
    Millers red rubber grease
    Castrol red rubber grease

    Basically any red rubber grease, or the more specific brake pin products from permatex and dow-corning.
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    Thanks, that's a great list. I'll see if I can hunt down some of the Permatex stuff locally. They also have a new one, but there's no MSDS for it so I'm not sure how suitable it really is.

    Permatex Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant - 24125

    Also, this CRC Sta-Lube Synthetic Brake Caliper Grease below is easy to come by around here, it looks like it might be OK. Have you heard of it before?
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    Both appear right in their descriptions, although I'm slightly nervous about the statement in the TDS of the CRC grease of "provides controlled swell to seals".

    The problem is in the design of the seals - if they swell, they exert too much inward pressure on the pin. See diagram in: http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20277

    The car that was done in that thread was my old GLS, which was then fine from then on until it was written off in march this year.

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    Man i been putting copper grease on mine for a while now. Thats what ever garage i have seen has used to

    Granted when i took the brakes appart last time the pins were caked completely had to be scrapped off with a stanley blade.

    Was planning on pulling them off again tonight as im fed up off them not working right.

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    Finish line synthetic grease
    Would this not work well for the guide pins?

    spec
    Finish Line Synthetic Grease 3.5oz Tube
    Top Features of the Finish Line Synthetic Grease 3.5oz Tube
    100% Synthetic Premium Teflon Grease
    Totally repels water
    Won't thicken in cold
    Won't oil separate

    • Finish Line’s all new technology for 2006 sets an even higher performance standard
    • New “functional” thickener totally prevents rust and corrosion (even in saltwater)
    • New thickener prevents washout and water emulsification
    • New technology withstands higher pressures without sheering
    • Tested, approved, and used by leading bearing manufacturers

    Contains Teflon and water repellant molecules to prevent rust and ensure maximum lubrication.
    Non-toxic
    Suitable for use on high and low speed bearings, threads, stems, suspension rings and O-rings
    Usable in temperatures ranging from -30C to over 200C
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    My experience is that that stuff doesn't work well in much - particularly mountain bikes.

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    cool ok so is there any consensus on what to use? Anyone tried anything that works well?

    Its just I'm doing my disks and pads either tomorrow of friday and it needs to be something I can get easily from a motor factor.

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    See my post a few posts up with the list in...

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    oh yeh cheers buddy

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    I ended up using the green Permatex 24110 when working on my parents Honda Civic over the weekend, it took a bit of hunting but I found it in a larger auto store.

    When I do the Legnum I'll use the red Silicone Formula Permatex 24115 instead.

    I enquired at a brake store about what they use and they said silicone lube on the slider pins and red rubber grease on the pistons and everything else.

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    just used some of this but still on the look out for something more high temp............
    http://www.commaoil.com/productsguide/view/6/212
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANTHONY
    just used some of this but still on the look out for something more high temp............
    http://www.commaoil.com/productsguide/view/6/212
    That's likely to be a hydrocarbon base grease too, Tony. Keep an eye on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran
    That's likely to be a hydrocarbon base grease too, Tony. Keep an eye on it.
    this is the spec..
    CV GREASE
    APPLICATION
    A lithium-based grease containing molybdenum disulphide (MoS2 ) and molybdenum dithiocarbamate
    specially formulated for use in C V joints.

    PROPERTIES
    High in extreme pressure additives to give long life under heavy loads.

    Long life for use in well-sealed bearings.

    Oxidation inhibited – Ensures long life in storage.

    Good water resistance – Provides satisfactory lubrication in the presence of water and is not washed
    out of bearings.

    Good corrosion protection – Rust inhibited to protect bearing surfaces.

    Chemically compatible with polymeric boot material.

    Includes a laminar solid lubricant which overcomes boundary lubrication.

    TYPICAL INSPECTION DATA
    Colour Grey/Black
    Texture Smooth
    NLGI No. 2 (Medium)
    Worked penetration 265 – 295
    Drop Point
    °C 180
    Range of use
    °C -20 to 120
    4 ball Weld Load (N)
    Scar diameter, 40kg 1 hour (mm)
    3600
    0.440
    Oil separation (IP121) 5%

    DIRECTIONS FOR USE
    Never over pack the bearing.

    It is sound lubrication practice to remove the old grease before new grease is introduced. If used
    grease cannot be removed, Comma C V Lith-Moly grease is generally compatible with other lithium
    based greases. When mixed with other grease types, this grease should be satisfactory below an
    operating temperature of 80
    °C.

    HANDLING
    Avoid extremes of temperature.

    Store under cover.

    SHELF LIFE
    Five years from date of manufacture.

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