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Thread: 17" wheel recommendations.

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    It was on a UK Police forum, there's no official rule but it just depends on the copper that pulls you over. It would seem there's a few with a bee in their bonnet about it, if they want to they could get you on the above regulation.
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    Throbbe, they don't look that stretched, I think we're talking the ones on that Saxof**** where the rims actually stick out past the edge of the tyre.

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    Tyre past edge of the arch is definitely an offence under construction and use.

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    It's also an offence to my paintwork, there's a lot of gravel rash all over the sides. I've also noticed how badly the front bumper has rashed since being over here.

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    Poor Finesse Green Paint!

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    Just to let you all know I found a definitive nswer on the arches issue:

    Quote Originally Posted by UK Police Forum
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    Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles

    2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

    2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;


    In short, the wheel must NOT protrude more than 30mm past the edge of the mudguard.

    Full website for the legislation can be found here
    Of course this is their interprotation of what is written above, I actually read it that the arches must be between zero and 30mm furhter out than the wheel.

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    and in additon:

    Quote Originally Posted by UK Police Forum
    Regarding wheel width, they must not protrude more than 30mm beyond the wheel arches. (Council Directive 78/549/EEC)

    Regarding the fitting of the tyre "Each tyre fitted to the vehicle shall be of a nominal size appropriate to the wheel to which it is fitted." Sec16(4 The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2001'. The fact that the fit was outside manufacturers recommendations should be very persuasive to convince a court that the tyre was not fitted in a manner suitable to qualify it as 'approved'.

    Section 40A RTA 1988 states "A person is guilty of an offence if he uses, or causes or permits another to use, a motor vehicle or trailer on a road when...the condition of the motor vehicle...or of its accessories or equipment...is such that the use of the motor vehicle or trailer involves a danger of injury to any person." Evidence to support this offence would include measurements of your wheel and tyre, and statements from the manufacturer or a tyre expert, indicating the potential risk of fitting outside their recommended parameters, namely, overheating, grip loss, unpredictable performance and behaviour etc etc.

    If your vehicle was involved in a collision, especially one involving injury, where the cause led to the loss of control of your vehicle, dangerous driving may be considered, especially strengthened by Sec 2A(2) where "A person is also to be regarded as driving dangerously for the purposes of section 1 and 2 above if it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving the vehicle in its current state would be dangerous."

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    ?? Which forum is that from? 5ive-o?

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    It's actually http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/.

    They seem pretty OK there and gives you a good insight into how a lot of them think.

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