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    The braided lines have arrived.

    Very nice indeed. Cant wait to get them on now...

    Newbie moment, I thought there would be more than one line per wheel. But I guess not. Anyway, I like. The red 'exact' tag is also quite slick. Went for the clear covers to match my silver car.



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    They look pretty neat

    Let us know your experience when you have them on and I may go the same route. Waiting for £££ to invest in Brembo option.
    I already got calipers refurbished but waiting for wheels, discs, pads and other bits and pieces so plenty of £££ needed
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    Atik - you have it about right. You may be able to get away with just bleeding the fronts when changing the hoses on the front only, but I wouldn't recommend it. IMO if the system needs bleeding, bleed the system!

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    why'd you think you need more than 1 per wheel?
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    just put a set of carbotechs on mine with the ebc discs more stopping power than a .50 magnum at close range. did a brake test 80-0 stopped way before the redstuffs did, and when pulled off the gearbox was still in third it couldnt keep up with them braking...
    screw redstuffs, Carbotechs all the way!
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_y
    why'd you think you need more than 1 per wheel?
    Dunno to be completely honest. The reference to 'braided hoses' or 'brake lines' point to plural so I assumed that maybe 2 or 3 lines per wheel were required. As I said, newbie moment

    Had a scary braking moment today when pressing the pedal, it just took forever to bite! The sooner I can get it fitted, the better.

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    yeh ive had moments like that once when it was snowing and i was going downhill with F1s on, brown trousers dont cut it lol.

    Interested to see how you get on with the braided lines, mine could do with being changed soon, looking a bit tired

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    Quote Originally Posted by atikali2000
    Dunno to be completely honest. The reference to 'braided hoses' or 'brake lines' point to plural so I assumed that maybe 2 or 3 lines per wheel were required. As I said, newbie moment

    Had a scary braking moment today when pressing the pedal, it just took forever to bite! The sooner I can get it fitted, the better.
    aho Ok then.

    Its just that you would never really just rpelace 1, they would be replaced in pairs, preferrably all 4 wheels.

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    Some cars do indeed have dual lines, though: notably quite a few volvos have a redundant braking system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbo_Steve
    notably quite a few volvos have a redundant braking system!

    Because they don't go fast enough to need them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaac Sibson
    Because they don't go fast enough to need them?
    Should i bite or not

    Yeh feck it seeing as its the long haired one and i know he's on a wind up

    There's a v70 t5 sat in my workshop at the mo which is running 320bhp and it weighs 1400kg, which even with my shockingly bad maths quite a bit better than a vr4 and getting bloody close to a lower end evo

    And we now have a spare engine which is going to be stripped and checked over ready for H beam rods, forged pistons, lightened crank, ported head, a huge turbo of the GT range (this is to be decided )etc etc, oh and then a stand alone ecu to control it

    So i think it may go a bit quicker than the average coffin dodger in a tweed jacket and trilby mobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Mann
    There are jet powered milk floats out there too!!!
    I want one... talk about ulitmate stealth. Pull up to a set of lights and flick the jet on... The whine as it warms up would be phenomenal. Granted, by the time the jet warms up the other car would have gone, but, still...

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    my mate was on the build team for the land speed record milkfloat build, not sure if that had brakes though, i assume it did lol

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    And so, they were fitted, and VR4 of the Legnum variety was able to stop much quicker!!! Thanks Nick

    WOW... I'm speechless! These pads are good. My braking experience is now as enjoyable as accellerating! LOL

    Got the Exact braided lines fitted... actually only fitted the fronts as previous owner already had the Exact braided lines fitted on the rear! at Richy

    Anyway, full flush with Super Blue ATE fluid, new Carbotech XP8 pads up front, and finally greased up the brake pedal pivot to stop the squeaking. And the car feels so much more on the ball now when braking.

    I would think that I can now stop in 2/3 of the distance at any speed than what I was able to do with the old pads, maybe even better than that. Feels so much firmer.

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    So you can feel the significant difference with braided hoses Atik?
    Looks like I'm going to place an order with next couple of days

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    just get a set of the ebc discs on them and you will stop even quicker, the carbotechs are frightining though arent they, mine with the ATE, discs and carbotechs i keep locking the front wheel stamping on them and putting the ayc on

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    The best pads I've had was Ferodo DS2500. But they are expensive.
    Currently got EBC Turbo Grooves and Red stuff. I think that's the best value for money. All I need is the braided hoses now which I'm going to order later this week following Atik's hint.

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    Marcin, yep, they definitely make a difference. I did my brakes as a package with the pads, so cant really say exactly how much difference the braided lines make, but you cant really go wrong by upgrading them.

    I had a squeaky brake pedal which felt rough when pressed down, but with some grease on the pivot it feels clean again. I definitely felt the pedal seems firmer than before when pressing down, and I actually got the AYC lihts up on some of the 'bedding in' braking.

    The pads though, they really are something else. I will be looking at getting a set of XP8 pads for the rears in the new year, with EBC discs all round.

    Still, for now, I'm a happy bunny with good brakes!

    Marcin, Exact Engineering do a full set of lines for the car, but cos I didnt need to change my rears, I have a spare set available - rears only. If Exact sell them as singles, just get the fronts and you can take my unused ones if you want? I wont really be doing much with them just sat in the shed. Also, having said that, Exact's prices are so good anyway, its probably easier to just get the full set from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atikali2000
    And so, they were fitted, and VR4 of the Legnum variety was able to stop much quicker!!! Thanks Nick

    WOW... I'm speechless! These pads are good. My braking experience is now as enjoyable as accellerating! LOL

    Got the Exact braided lines fitted... actually only fitted the fronts as previous owner already had the Exact braided lines fitted on the rear! at Richy

    Anyway, full flush with Super Blue ATE fluid, new Carbotech XP8 pads up front, and finally greased up the brake pedal pivot to stop the squeaking. And the car feels so much more on the ball now when braking.

    I would think that I can now stop in 2/3 of the distance at any speed than what I was able to do with the old pads, maybe even better than that. Feels so much firmer.
    Just to confirm

    You have the standard discs?

    If I fitted new front discs and Carbotech XP8 pads up front, what should I do on the rear, to keep the balance?

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