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    Eurospec Announces Plug and Play Vipec ECU for the 6A13T

    Eurospec is proud to announce the availability of the first (to our knowledge)plug and play standalone ECU for the Galant/Legnum VR4.

    The Units feature:-

    Full anti lag, launch control, flat shift, full timing control in up to 5 d, full fuel control in up to 5 d, fully configerable boost and rev limits, closed loop narrow or wide band lamda control, auto tune (when used with wideband), boost control in open or closed loop, map conversion etc etc etc.

    These ECU's are based around the Vipec units which are fitted to our race cars, but are built upon replacement ECU boards. We know the units are compatable with manual cars, but i will need a volunteer to see if they will run with the TCUs in the autos.

    The units themselves retail at £850 + vat. There is a manufacturers price increase in the pipeline, but for a short time they will be available supplied, fitted and mapped for £1300 + vat. Once the price increase works through the fitted price will increase by £95. Supply only will remain unchanged. (We are absorbing the price increase on fitted units for a short time)

    So if there is someone out there with an auto who would like to be a volunteer i can test and see if the unit can be configured to provide the torque reduction signal required by the TCU to make nice smooth shifts.

    Cheers,

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    If its free ill volunterr

    Congrats though sounds great, how would this compare to somthing like DTA s60 pro which is what i had planned to use. That or emerald anyway.

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    Ben,

    When im back from Euroland ill give you a call. Im interested in this kit.

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    Im happy to vounteer with my auto too.

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    Depending on how long you need the car for, I am happy to volunteer my manual VR4.

    Edit: to clarify my position on this, my car is a manual converted car which retains many of the auto parts; auto throttle body, TCL, ECU etc etc. IF this needs testing as a complete package as opposed to a full auto, then my car is available, depending on how long it is required for.
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    so how does this compare to map ecu2 feature wise reliabilty , ease of use etc etc?? oh yeah and price comparison fitted + mapped ?

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    It's a standalone. It eats MAP2 for breakfast
    More zones, better configurability, proper 3D (or 5D) mapping.
    Auxiliary Ins / Outs, TPS value compensation, sensor rescaling, sensor signal conversion, installable / configurable features and much much much more flexibility if you're planning to grow your car slowly.

    It's probably not as easy to map as the Autronic, but I bet it's close, especially if it's got a wideband input.

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    and thats my question answered. cheers steve

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    Yep, he is on the money, except in one minor detail.....

    Personally i would say its easier to use than autronic since its a lot more intuitive. If you do get stuck the built in help is top notch.

    Cheers,

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    nice work ben, good to see someone developing things for these engines. There is very little difference between the vipec and autronic as one of the main guys at autronic moved over to vipec. Vipec has the nice option of multiple fuel maps so you can have a road fuel map and a race fuel map and change them at the flick of a switch, which autronic doesnt do.
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    So could you do variable maps with variable boost etc and change via a dash mounted switch??

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    or would it be through its software interface, or would that be evo scan ??

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    strange , would have thought this thread would've had more interest tha n this??

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    I'd be interested if I had the cash. I simply can't justify the money though, as I already have a MAP2 (which has switchable maps too!) I would have thought that this basically removes the fuel cut issue that the VR4 suffers with using any piggyback. If that is the case, the Vipec has a big advantage over piggyback ecu's.

    I assume that the Vipec is good with knock detection etc too?

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    I'm very interested in this, just have to save up the cash. I assume this would negate the need for a safc and boost controller? The downside for me is the distance to travel and it will mean 2 trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Mann
    I'd be interested if I had the cash. I simply can't justify the money though, as I already have a MAP2 (which has switchable maps too!) I would have thought that this basically removes the fuel cut issue that the VR4 suffers with using any piggyback. If that is the case, the Vipec has a big advantage over piggyback ecu's.

    I assume that the Vipec is good with knock detection etc too?
    The EMU also has switchable maps and the ability to rid the VR4 of fuel cut.

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    How does the EMU remove fuel cut? Do you mean offset? Or defend against?

    A standalone would surely be able to run the injectors at higher duty without any kind of jiggery-pokery. The stock injectors should be capable of supplying 380-400 bhp at high duty cycles, but you can't get there with a piggy back because fuel cut won't allow duty cycles high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Mann Services
    How does the EMU remove fuel cut? Do you mean offset? Or defend against?

    A standalone would surely be able to run the injectors at higher duty without any kind of jiggery-pokery. The stock injectors should be capable of supplying 380-400 bhp at high duty cycles, but you can't get there with a piggy back because fuel cut won't allow duty cycles high enough.

    By clamping the Maf signal just below the point at which fuel cut occurs. Then building an airflow map above this point to allow greater volume of air without cut.

    The EMU can also directly drive the injectors like a standalone. Or just fudge the signal like piggyback.


    I'm sure the Map2 can rid fuelcut as well ! If it can allow the car to go Mafless, then surely it can rid simple fuel cut ?

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    If its standalone then surely your binning the MAF anyway and running map.

    I dont know that much about ECU's and tunning cars but of all the ones i have seen done, mapped built etc not one of them has used a MAF sensor.

    So that initself would get rid of the problem of fuel cut. As you map to the desired/safe boost level?

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