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    Testing new chat feature.

    With the demise of our flashchat due to the coder who created it dissapearing of the face of the earth I will be looking to set up a new chat feature for the CVR4 Members.

    First up I have installed a facebook style approach with a tool called envolve, you can disable it like so.

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    I've yet to fully understand how it works so bear with me, i have noticed a bit of "judder" when typing this message, i think its relating to envolve - i dont like it.

    anyways, have a look, play, see what you think, then respond here. It is the free version so there may be enhancements on the full version.

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    Thank @^<* for that.........you can turn it off

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    Type Judder ???

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    No Type Judder here Barry ?

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    http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showt...255443&page=10

    Hi,

    This has potential but i see several hurdles before this becomes 1 stop chat feature.

    1. The costs, it's very expensive.
    2. Hosted, this causes delay - we must compare to facebook as they are leading this field - There you can surf whilst the chat stays in place, with this it goes away, re-appearing only once the webpage has loaded - in some cases i found that when i start typing the title of a thread the chat grabs my curser attention and i type the thread title into the last chat window i had open. Very frustrating this.
    3. It appears that a public chat still requires people to be invited? Why is this? Also, if they X the tab, it disappears, a public chat should remain indefinitely in my opinion especially if I have configured it at the back end.
    4. allow for far more customisation of colours and css styles, it is important to have it look like the site - im sure others will agree.
    5. less is more, there is to much info everywhere - allow option to disable to extra info for users (when you hover over name) its very messy and worthless for our site.

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    Ok... So whats the next one

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    I quite like the idea of envolve, it has chat history which means if you crash / time out, you don't miss anything

    No sound notifications though..
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    Well, that seems to work ok. Just the large tabs - perhaps they could be relocated?

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    Ugh - it's gone...........................

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    if you block someone in the evolve chat the only way to unblock them is to clear your cache / cookies - which is a pia


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutter_John View Post
    if you block someone in the evolve chat the only way to unblock them is to clear your cache / cookies - which is a pia
    I was just speaking to one of the developers about this, he mentioned all thats needed to clear them is close browser and reopen, was this done?

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    Yep that works Barry , I used there online chat support and was told that you needed to clear the cache etc

    How much is it ?

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    That is quiet pricey looking at there website

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutter_John View Post
    Yep that works Barry , I used there online chat support and was told that you needed to clear the cache etc

    How much is it ?
    its quite expensive, i need to do some further testing to try and make it faster on reload - the developer i spoke to gave me some things to do - ill implememnt them in the morning.

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    Agreed, I was about to spam about being annoyed by that... fortunately I read this thread.

    My main concern with things like this is whether it uses bandwidth or not. If I want to check the forums at work, I need to worry about bandwidth because excessive usage will get me in big trouble.
    This along with the number of "hits" the club forums generates is the #1 reason I am MUCH less active on the forums than I was a couple of years ago. (not being able to have the forums open at work because I got in trouble for excessive use )

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    Thank @^<* for that.........you can turn it off

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    too annoying, judder and just dont see myself using it much if at all,
    the IM function we used to have was more useful IMO

    what was wrong with existing the flash chat?

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    I am coping with this when surfing the site from a PC. However I hate it when using my phone. I have an Android phone with tapatalk, but hate the tapatalk function - so I surf the site normally. The chat boxes cause a second loading phase to happen, after you think the page has completed. This gets in the way of all sorts of things, like replying to a thread, hitting the back button etc. Just as you think it is safe to scroll/click the page jumps again as the web address bar appears for it's second loading stint. The second major issue is that the chat boxes don't stay in the bottom right properly. They try, but after about a page worth of scrolling, they lock at that line and start moving up the screen with the page. This means that at a certain distance down the page I can't read a sentence or two of text. The only way round this I have found is to change the zoom level so the words I can't see get displaced to the left of the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve-vr-4ish View Post
    Thank @^<* for that.........you can turn it off
    Yes I agree. I just wish the turn on button would go away!


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    Bring back Pager!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Bring back Pager!
    Wish i could - its just on longer available.

    NIck, i am aware of this issue, it can be disabled.

    I'll be removing this chat feature shortly, there are to many niggles with it that do not see it fit for purpose.

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