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    Cheers mate, have sent an email to Kempys asking if they've got one to spare.. Hopefully the Aussie dollar will help keep shipping costs reasonable overall. But yeah, dealer can pay

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    This pump is doing my head in..... Called Kempy's in NZ with my VIN number trying to find a 2nd hand one, apparently there is a pre-May 2000 model pump, and a post May 2000 pump...??? They didn't have any of the newer ones so I'm stuck.

    Will a Gallant VR4 V6TT pump suit? Found one on eBay for $300..

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    Yeah I've got the light there, the missus checked for me when I was at work and she didn't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlUe View Post
    This pump is doing my head in..... Called Kempy's in NZ with my VIN number trying to find a 2nd hand one, apparently there is a pre-May 2000 model pump, and a post May 2000 pump...??? They didn't have any of the newer ones so I'm stuck.

    Will a Gallant VR4 V6TT pump suit? Found one on eBay for $300..
    Yes, they are the same car apart from the boot.

    I wasn't aware of any changes though, so it will be the same deal as the one you're looking at I guess. Someone else will know

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlUe View Post
    Yeah I've got the light there, the missus checked for me when I was at work and she didn't see it.
    What does you mean she don't see it.
    does it come on at all or with the other light and go off again when the car is started or does it stay on all the time?
    If it goes off with the other light then it is not the pump. You could be getting a worse pump fitted than the one you are removing. Best to be sure.

    And I can't see a reference to what error code are being display on the dash when you put it in flashy dash mode (diagnostic mode).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davezj View Post
    But does it come with the other light and go off again when the car is started or does it stay on all the time?
    If it goes off with the other light then it is not the pump. You could be getting a worse pump fitted than the one you are removing. Best to be sure.

    And I can't see a reference to what error code are being display on the dash when you put it in flashy dash mode (diagnostic mode).

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    Yeah the light comes on and turns off with the other ones after few secs. Meek are sure it's the pump as when they removed the fuse the noise stopped.

    Still looking into a post may 2000 ayc pump.. I'll get full membership I guess and see if I find anything out in the library.

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    I'm not aware of a difference in the pump. But I do believe the pressure switch on the pump assembly changed at that time, from normally open to normally closed, or vice-versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Mann View Post
    I'm not aware of a difference in the pump. But I do believe the pressure switch on the pump assembly changed at that time, from normally open to normally closed, or vice-versa.
    Hi Nick,

    That's what Kempy's have told me (see below), however they say due to the pressure difference, it's not compatible.
    If anyone knows of a site I can import this sort of stuff directly or via Japan, let me know...

    there are very few late types out there
    we use mitsubishi nz system and shows 2 types we have never had a late one to compare the diffrenece we have been told by one of our customers they have a different pressure and dont work, so we cant interchange them
    early part no: MR222152
    your part number late type : MR553977

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    Meek have also got the price for a new pump from Japan - $2990... Dealer will definitely not pay that much so I guess I'll be without AYC until we find a 2nd hand one, very frustrating..

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    OK, so I've picked up the car, Meek have taken the pump out and are going to try to repair it instead of replacing the whole thing. So currently I've just got no AYC in the rear.

    The motor has pretty much burnt out due to the bearings (We think) being seized. Usually caused by incorrect servicing of the pump. The pressure sensor should be fine.. Hopefully. I believe this was the part that was different from May 2000 onwards. We are thinking an Evo pump motor may be interchangeable, which would be a massive relief!

    Have attached a pic of her, for anyone who may be interested!

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    there is no real difference in pumps, apart from the pressure switch,
    which you can just swap,

    or just swap the ayc ecu to the earlier one, and it will work perfectly...

    i have both the early ecu and pump if you get stuck.. but i cant imagine shipping to be cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gly View Post
    there is no real difference in pumps, apart from the pressure switch,
    which you can just swap,

    or just swap the ayc ecu to the earlier one, and it will work perfectly...

    i have both the early ecu and pump if you get stuck.. but i cant imagine shipping to be cheap.
    Cheers for the reply mate.

    So if we can't fix the pump, if I was to find an early model AYC pump assy, could I just swap over the pressure switch and it'll be all good?

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    yep. this is the only diff i have been able to spot on them....

    if you can get in contact with kenneth on these forums he should be able to confirm this.

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    Yep, the pump itself is the same. My understanding is that the pump motors are prone to dying if over used, never heard of the actual mechanical pump section dying though.

    You can swap the pump unit over (if I recall correctly, it ends up in 3 pieces, motor, pump unit and then the housing with all the piping and stuff) and it should all be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlUe View Post
    Have attached a pic of her, for anyone who may be interested!

    Cheers
    Very nice!

    I note you have the somewhat rare underhandle protectors, with built in lights for the front doors!

    It is clearly a Type-S, but I am wondering why it has prefacelift wheels, and not the standard Type-S facelift wheels?
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    Wheels were prob put on during compliance Nev... The aussie one is funny like that some times..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    Yep, the pump itself is the same. My understanding is that the pump motors are prone to dying if over used, never heard of the actual mechanical pump section dying though.

    You can swap the pump unit over (if I recall correctly, it ends up in 3 pieces, motor, pump unit and then the housing with all the piping and stuff) and it should all be good.
    Yeah, that's what the pump looks like. Mechanic tested the motor and it's running verrryy slowly due to it pretty much burning out, I guess the bearings were too far gone for it to provide pressure. I'm hoping its an easy fix now they've taken it apart - thanks for your reply!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elnevio View Post
    Very nice!

    I note you have the somewhat rare underhandle protectors, with built in lights for the front doors!

    It is clearly a Type-S, but I am wondering why it has prefacelift wheels, and not the standard Type-S facelift wheels?
    Cheers mate. So what's the difference with the type-s? I thought the underhande things were just added by the old owner. The paint on them needs attention, the material doesn't seem to hold it on well.. Bubbled off in parts. Been looking at getting some matt black Evo rims, suggestions?

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    I think the underhandle thingies were a dealer-fitted option. The obvious Type-S things from the outside are the wheel arch extensions and spoiler, and normally the twin-spoke wheels.

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