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    Quote Originally Posted by fassi1 View Post
    I thought I'm gonna share some of my logging experiances.
    I was feeling brave and had play with timing advence.
    Running LPG without almost any knocking I decided to advence ignition timing so what I did was:
    load 0-100 +2deg, load 120-140 +3deg, load 160 +2deg, load 180 more +1deg
    done few runs on lpg and results are below.
    Knocking still almost not existing so may be even more brave next time
    First run:
    AFR, coolant temp
    timing advence, knock sum
    How car does 'feel' ? any faster?

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    I would say there is differance but obviously dyno test would tell exactly so may visit Eurospec at some point.
    Thanks for rep, don't mind sharing info and test results.
    Next time may go for:
    load 100-160 +3deg, load 180 more +2deg

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    updated first post with extra video about tuning boost with ecu and using more controlable GM or grimspeeed 3 port solenoid valve.

    hope this helps

    Bye for Now!

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    Updated comment on the 3 port boost tuning video.
    It is so boring, but good info, he could have covered the whole content in about 5 mins rather than the 20 mins he actually does it in.

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    Gonne refresh this thread.
    Done some logging but this time during track day at Bedford Autodrome.
    Been on the track for 20min while logging data.
    Running on LPG with 1.1bar and custom ignition map.
    Results are below.

    Ignition map, AFR,
    Air temp. Coolant temp,
    Knock sum.
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    Last edited by fassi1; 04-05-2013 at 10:01 PM.

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    I have been doing a bit of digging and reasearch on the whole tuning topic, and i was wondering if there was a rule of thumb or just a gut feeling about ignition timing increase and what power gains you should expect.

    here is the hyperthetical scenario,
    you increase the timing by say 6 degrees throughout the map above 100 load column.
    you don't get any knock when doing your logging runs.
    what sort of power increase can you expect to see, is there a rule of thumb for it, a ball park figure, or is it a case of every car is different and you can never predict what gains you will get.

    just interested in what sort of change can be expected.

    i understand the above scenario is never going to be so straight forward as this but it the simplest scenario to consider.
    what do you think the gains would be, are we talking a 5hp, 10hp, 15hp, 20hp? or is it a, it will be what it will be, and just hope you are lucky to have a large gain.

    i have no idea what to exect so all info will be very useful.

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    i ask the above question as i am going to ebark on a timing quest to see what is possible for me.

    i am assuming it is much safer to go on the softly softly approch increasing timing until knock starts, rather than just set the timing stupidly high and let the engine knock high for a couple runs then look at the logs and reduce the timing on a 1 degree per 3 knock basis in the appropreiate areas.

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    Without a dyno you can also advance the ignition timing too far beyond the best point and technically go slower (without getting knock that registers).. from what I understand, however, in fuel cars, it mostly tends to work out to be best just before knock.

    I also read that this approach apparently does not work for E85. Do not particularly understand why.
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    ok point taken.
    i will have to set something up in evoscan with the built in dyno software, it does not have to give an actual indication of the power but as long as it is repeatable then i can test against that to see if i am going in the right direction or if i have dropped off the other side of best, i can then back thing off again to the optimum point.

    i was lead to believe that higher calorific fuels do not tend to knock as much as petrol, so you can take them further from there optimum point before they start to knock if at all, which is why i have loggable AFR and boost so i can at least get a log if the car is going lean.
    i am not going to intentionally take the car above 11.5 AFR at WOT. i will be relatively safe.
    so lets see what happens, i think i will probably start by increasing the time in 2 degree increments and see what happens.

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    You could probably realistically track the acceleration rate to give you a reasonable idea.. however.. road gradient, wind resistance, etc.. will add to the already dynamic variables of intake temp, etc.. and may make it hard to tune it down to the dot.

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    yeh i think it will only be a rough tune whatever happens, the only real way is get it on a dyno.
    but any more power i can have for effectively free is ok with me.
    hopefully it will only cost petrol and time.
    and if i factured in the cost of petrol into anything related to the vr4, i would have got rid of it years ago.

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    Just and info update

    evoscan basic logging video which need to be added to post 2 and put the litle bit of text above it as well, if a mod can do this, @elnevio @BraindG thanks dave


    Below is a basic evoscan setup and logging video for a start

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2M4YiNClk

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    Thread from death?? no this thread will newer die

    found very compact guide, yes its for evo9 and is quite dated but IMO worth to read, even as a quick reminder of how things are, enjoy.

    Original text here, past over in case it disappear at some point from original www

    TB's guide to tuning with ECUFlash
    From start to finish.

    Introduction
    The goal of this guide is simple: To provide you with the knowledge and techniques needed to tune your Evo using ECUFlash. I'm going to go through the entire process of tuning the ECU, and hopefully give you the knowledge to make your fast car go faster.

    Disclaimer
    I researched, tested, and compared tons of data before making adjustments to my car for the same reason that you should ... so you don't blow up your $30,000+ investment. You can trust that the data provided in this guide will be pretty darn accurate, but you should understand the risk you assume by modifying the values in your ECU. If you break anything because of this guide, it is not my fault ... though I will feel kinda bad.

    With that said, let's get started ...

    First things first
    Since you obviously want to know more about tuning your car, you should go ahead and read through this brief tutorial on EvoM written by EFIxMR. It quickly touches on some of the subjects that will be covered here.

    If you read that article and are still awake, then you will probably be able to follow the rest of the tutorial here. I might get pretty technical at times, but if you have any questions, just post them here and I'll do what I can to get them answered.



    PostSubject: Re: GUIDE: How to tune your Evo IX with ECUFlash Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:08 pm
    What you'll need
    Before you get started, you'll need a few basics. Some of these necessities are going to lighten your pocket a little, but you drive an Evo ... you can afford it, right?

    Tuning Software:
    ECUFlash - Yes, let's assume you need the tuning software to tune your ECU. This is open source software and a free download.

    Logging Software:
    EvoScan - This application is available for download for $25 and is the software I'll be using to log in this tutorial. For your hard earned $25, you'll get the logging software and free updates. EvoScan is simple and easy to use. It also works with most of the wideband O2 sensors you'll find.

    MitsuLogger - Mitsulogger is a free logging software developed (mostly) by MalibuJack, who you might know from EvoM. He knows his stuff, and his logger reflects that. It's powerful and constantly being updated. If you have questions about this logger, I probably can't help you ... but, I'm sure MJ would be happy to help you out. You can find him on his own site, The Aktive Matrix, or on EvoM in the ECUFlash tuning forum.

    LogWorks - LogWorks is a super powerful logging application developed by Innovate Motorsports and is packaged with many of their products. I have this software, but I honestly haven't used it much. I hear that it's a smart, fast logger that can do anything you want and more after you learn how to use it. Lots of tuners love this software and wouldn't trade it for the world.

    Of course, these aren't the only choices for logging data from your ECU. Find a logger you like and learn your way around it. You can use the information here with any logger you end up with.

    And now, the hardware ...

    OBDII Interface Cable:
    Tactrix Cable - This is the interface that connects your computer to your car. This cable is used when data is being sent to or being pulled from the ECU.

    Boost Gauge:
    You need to monitor the boost carefully when tuning your car. A boost gauge is the absolute minimum you need. A better solution is to log boost with an added MAP sensor which will be discussed a little later. That said, I'm currently tuning using only the stock boost gauge that Mitsubishi left in the car for me.

    Boost gauges are everywhere and range for super cheap to insanely expensive. Pick one and install it. If you want my opinion, I've had VDO and Stewart Warner gauges and never had trouble with either.

    Wideband (5v) O2 Sensor and Interface:
    I'll give a little explanation here. You have 2 O2 (oxygen) sensors on your car from the factory. One is in the turbo outlet pipe, and the other is just past the catalytic converter. The first one tells the ECU information about the fuel mixture, and the second is used in comparison to the first to determine if the converter is doing its job.

    Both of these stock sensors are what we call "narrow band" sensors. This means that they send signals from 0.00v to 1.00v. This technically isn't a problem and narrow band O2 sensors can be used to monitor air/fuel mixtures when tuning, but the stock sensors are calibrated in such a way that they stop giving feedback at a certain load or throttle percentage and the car enters "open loop" mode. This brings us to ...

    Open loop occurs when the vehicle stops relying on the O2 sensors to give it feedback on the car's air to fuel mixture. Basically, in open loop mode, the ECU aims for a set fuel mixture and just kind of assumes that that mixture is correct based on the things it DOES know, such as the MAF reading.

    So, in order to achieve the ideal fuel mixture, we need to know the specifics of the fuel mixture when in open loop mode, especially since open loop occurs during acceleration. We get this data by installing an extra O2 sensor that can interface with a gauge or computer. This is usually a "wideband" sensor that sends signals from 0.00v to 5.00v. The higher range of the sensor allows for more accurate readings.

    Here are some common wideband O2 choices ...

    Innovate LC-1 - This is a basic, minimal wideband setup. It includes the 5v O2 sensor, computer interface, and the LogWorks software mentioned earlier. This is the setup that I use, and I found it here at a good price.

    Zeitronics ZT-2 - This is a popular option as well. The benefit of the Zeitronics setup over the LC-1 is the option of an LCD display panel and a control module to interface with other sensors to monitor things such as boost pressure and exhaust gas temperatures. Innovate offers similar options if you upgrade to the LM-1 unit.

    There are of course other options for wideband O2 sensors and most will be supported by the logger you choose.

    Optional Hardware:
    Items listed here aren't required to properly tune your car, but a little extra info never hurt anyone.

    MAP Sensor and Interface - Adding a MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor will allow you to accurately log boost levels with your logs. This should give you the same readings as your mechanical boost gauge, but logging the values allows you to compare your boost levels with the rest of your log and could possibly allow you to catch subtle pressure nuances that you might not spot on the gauge.

    On the Evo, there is a nifty way to log boost with a part from Japan and some minor modification to your ECU. Read about that here. There are also many aftermarket kits that allow you to log boost.

    EGT Gauge - I've personally never dealt with one of these doo-dads, but monitoring your EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) can keep you from making some big mistakes while tuning. If you want to go this route, you'll need to do a little research because I can't help much. If you get some info in it, post here and I'll add it. :beer:

    So, you've got all of the necessities. Let's start tuning!

    AAAHHHH! Lots of colors and numbers!

    Alrighty, so you now have everything you need to get started. Let's get you familiarized with the software you'll be working with.

    ECUFlash
    ECUFlash is the application that you will use to write to and from your ECU. It comes packaged with everything you need to get started, minus a ROM image from your car.

    If you have your OBDII cable nearby, you can run out to your car and pull the image from it to use for this section. If you don't have a cable yet, just right-click and save this file and skip down past this part.

    You know how to connect the OBDII cable to your car right? RIGHT? What do you mean you didn't read the article I sent you to in the first post? Okay, fine! Here is is again.

    So, you're plugged in a ready to go, right? Good. Open up ECUFlash. you'll be greeted with this screen ...



    Now, take a second to get familiar with the buttons at the top of the screen ...



    Open ROM - This will open a saved ROM image for editing or flashing.
    Save ROM As - This saves the edits you've made to the ROM.
    Read From ECU - This connects to the car's ECU and opens the current image from the ECU in ECUFlash.
    Write to ECU - This writes the selected ROM file in ECUFlash to the ECU.
    Test Write to ECU - The goes through the same processes as the "Write to ECU" function, but no data is actually writted to the ECU.
    Compare to ECU - This reads the image from the ECU and compares it to the selected ROM image in ECUFlash. This process runs every time you write to the ECU, and only the modified ROM data is written to the ECU.

    If you're connected to the ECU properly, the "Read from ECU" icon will be lit. Go ahead and click the "Read from ECU" icon. You'll get this prompt ...



    Select the vehicle that you are connected to and click "Read" to begin transferring your current ROM image to your computer. When the process has finished, your screen should look similar to this ...



    On the left side, you'll see "read image*" in the top box (BTW, that '*' means that the file has not been saved) and "ROM info" and "Parameters" in the lower box. This would also be a good time to save this ROM somewhere safe before you go poking around and changing stuff. Just click the "Save ROM As" button at the top and select a location.

    (Those of you who used the ROM I linked to from above can tune back in now)

    Before you start tuning, it's best that you know a little about the information contained in your ROM image, so I'll start there ...

    The "ROM Info" section contains, well, info about the ROM you're looking at. If you expand that section by clicking the little [+] to the left, you should see info that reflects the vehicle it was pulled from ...



    Most of the info here is self explanatory, but note the value of "Internal ID." This internal ID is often referred to as the "definition file." In the ROM pictured above, the definition is "88590015" and happens to be the most common Evo IX ROM.

    Now, below the ROM Info section is the good stuff ... the "Parameters." These Parameters hold the data that controls the variables you will harness to fine tune the performance of your Evo. The categories within are pretty cut and dry. They include:

    Fuel - The fuel category includes the ever important fuel maps, as well as more advanced info such as the MAF and injector scaling tables.
    Timing - The timing category hold your ignition and MIVEC maps.
    Limits - Within the limits category you'll find the rev limit, stationary rev limit (fun fun), and speed limit tables.
    Turbo - the turbo category holds a ton of important info. The tables here control the desired boost, wastegate duty, and overboost protection. This is probably the most confusing section of them all.
    Misc - The most important data here is the immobilizer table. You'll need to set your user level to "Developer" to see this though. This category is also commonly used to store any tables you add to the ROM definition (we'll cover this later).
    Idle - These isn't much here, but the tables within control your desired idle settings.

    With that out of the way, we can start looking at maps. Yay!

    There are 3 levels of maps in ECUFlash ...

    1D - A 1D map contains one address and a value for that address.
    2D - A 2D map contains a reference column of addresses and values for each address in a second column.
    3D - A 3D map cross references 2 address and assigns a value based on their relation.

    Here are some examples of the different types of maps ...

    1D


    2D


    3D


    3D maps can also be viewed as 3D graphs, like this one ...


    Reading the 1D and 2D maps is pretty straight forward, but the 3D map is a little more difficult. Basically, the ECU compares the 2 stationary values on the X and Y axis then assigns the corresponding Z axis value. Take a look at the illustrations below for more clarity ...



    In the fuel map illustration above, the ECU is reading an engine load value of "180" and an RPM value of "5500." The cell where the 180 load column and 5500 RPM row intersect decides the AFR value, which is "10.1."

    Now that you know how to read the maps, you need to know how to modify them. It is actually pretty straight forward and simple ...

    "=" pops up a dialog box and allows you to directly input a value in to the seleted cell(s).
    "+" incrementally increases the selected value(s).
    "-" incrementally decreases the selected value(s).

    You can also copy and paste values to and from the maps using the standard Windows CTRL+C to copy and CTRL+V to paste. If you want to know more, check out the "Edit" menu in an open map window.

    Okay, well that about sums it up for the basics of using ECU flash. Now it's time to find out what values we need to change and why ...

    Pressure predicament

    When I first started the tune for my car, I chose to begin with setting the boost. The reason for this was to hopefully reduce the amount tuning needed later in the process.

    By first setting the amount of air being shoved on to the cylinders, I could finish the first half of the AFR tuning without even touching the fuel maps. More importantly, the boost tables are directly related to the load values that the ECU uses as a basis reading values from most all of the tables that you will be editing while building your tune. By setting the boost first, you dial in the load values that you will be editing in the steps afterward.

    Ways to tune boost pressure
    There are basically two ways to set the boost levels on your Evo. You can install a boost controller, or modify the factory boost control system. Both have their pros and cons ...

    Aftermarket Boost Controller
    The main benefit of the boost controller option is ease of use. This option gives you direct, mechanical (or electronic) control of the boost level. Some options allow you to adjust the boost on-the-fly from the driver's seat, and that type of control is insanely convenient.

    The downside of this option is mainly the amount of control you have over the boost levels. Some of the more expensive electronic controllers allow you to customize the boost curve based on RPM, but your basic manual controller does not. Also, by disabling the stock boost control system, you forfeit the ECU's overboost protection.

    Modified Stock Boost Control System
    With this option, you have tons of control over the boost dynamics. You can dial out spikes and reduce taper. The method also retains the ECU's ability to reduce boost pressure in situations that might harm your engine. There is also a cost savings with this route.

    Modifying the stock boost control system is also a little tedious and time consuming. There are many tables that interact with each other to make it all work, and when you start tinkering with the hardware that these values control, they can begin to act a little strangely. Also, to modify your boost setting with this option, you must re-flash the ECU which requires some time and a computer.

    Controlling boost with an aftermarket boost controller
    This is by far the easiest and fastest method to set the boost on your Evo. You simply remove the stock boost control system and replace it with an easy-to-adjust valve. Sung has already written a great tutorial on installing a boost controller, so I'll just send you there in stead of wasting time reiterating it all.

    Once you have your boost controller installed, be sure to adjust it all the way down to avoid initial overboosting. Make some runs, preferably in 4th gear, and monitor the boost levels. Turn the boost up in small increments until you reach your desired boost level. Read the logging section further down for more info.

    A stock Evo IX can easily handle 22 psi after the needle settles. A spike of 24 or 25 psi can be expected in the peak torque area. The boost is likely to taper down toward redline, but it should still be an improvement over stock.

    If you have choosen to install a manual boost controller, you've basically rendered the ECU's boost control features useless, but there are a few tables you might want to change anyway. Increasing the values in the "Boost Limit" table may help keep the ECU from cutting fuel in an overboost situation.

    Controlling boost with the stock BCS
    Grab a seat, because things are about to get interesting ...

    For starters, controlling boost using the factory boost control system isn't 100% dependent on settings in the ECU. This is due to Mitsu installing handy restrictor pills in the OE boost control solenoid (BCS) lines. There is one pill just before the BCS on the pressure side and one in the short line just before the turbo. Modifying either of these pills will change the boost characteristics. Wrcwannabe gives some great info about the 2 pills in this post if you want to learn more.

    For this tutorial, we'll be using Evo Kid's write up on stock boost control. You will need to follow the steps listed in his tutorial to modify the stock boost control pill for any information I give you to be applicable. Go ahead and read through that thread and head back over here after you have an understanding of the mechanical side of modifying for ECU boost control.

    Boost control tables
    Before we get too far in to this stuff, you might want to set your user level in ECUFlash to "Developer". To do this, select "Options" from the menu up top. You'll see a user level section on the left. Open that up and select "Developer" from the pull down menu. WARNING: Changing the user level opens up many other tables that we may or may not be using in this tutorial. If you don't know what a table is, don't mess with it. Setting values in ECUFlash incorrectly could possibly cause irreversible damage to your Evo.

    On the Evo, there are no less than six tables that control boost. These tables are (in order of appearance):

    Boost Delay Timer

    This map works with the "Boost Limit" map to protect the system from overboost. This map is a timer (in milliseconds) that comes in to play when your actual boost at a given RPM exceeds the value set in the "Boost Limit" table. If boost exceeds the limit for a time greater than the timer's value, the wastegate is opened to lower boost.

    Boost Control Load Offset

    This table is an offset value that is added to the values set in the "Boost Desired Engine Load" table. The sum of the values in these two tables is your desired engine load for a given RPM.

    Turbo Boost Error Correction

    This table is referenced when the desired engine load differs from the actual load value. The difference in load (actual -> desired) is in the left column, and the amount of correction is a variable value in the right column. The percentage of correction is applied to the wastegate duty cycle (WGDC) to raise/lower the actual load to align with desired load.

    Boost Desired Engine Load

    The values in this table are added to the value set in the "Boost Control Load Offset" table to determine the desired load value for a given RPM. This table is as close as you will get to RPM based boost control.

    Max Wastegate Duty

    I'm not sure exactly how to explain this map. In it's most basic function, this map determines the range of control the wastegate has to control boost levels. These values can be set low as a sort of first line defense against overboost, and some tuners use this table to dial in an exact boost curve. In it's stock application, all values are set to 100%. At 100%, this map basically turns over all boost control to the "Boost Desired Engine Load" and "Boost Control Load Offset" tables.

    Boost Limit

    This table determines the max load value considered to be safe and acceptable at a given RPM. If actual load exceeds a value in this table for a duration greater than the "Boost Delay Timer" value, the wastegate will open to reduce boost pressure.
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    What you need to modify

    Note: Before continuing this tutorial, be sure you've saved your stock ROM in a safe place.

    Okay. You've got you modified boost pill installed and you want to dial in your boost settings. Lets go down the list of initial changes you will need to make.

    WARNING: Do not drive the car with the modified boost pill before flashing the ECU with your new boost settings!

    Boost Delay Timer - This map can stay where it is, but you can increase it if you feel the need.

    Boost Control Load Offset - Increase this value to "100." Increasing this value will add some headroom to your "Boost Desired Engine Load" (BDEL) maps and allow for easier fine tuning later.

    Turbo Boost Error Correction - You'll want to set the top half of this map (negative Boost Error %) to "0" and change the values on the lower half (positive Boost Error %) to make a gentle ramp of correction with a maximum of about "-5%." See the image below ...



    These settings will protect you from overboost but not skew your logged Wastegate Duty Cycle (WGDC) values while dialing in boost.

    Boost Desired Engine Load - There are 3 of these maps, and sadly, I have no idea why. Some say one is for cold start and another for "limp" mode, but I don't think it's been proven. So, the easiest way to proceed is to modify all 3 of the maps.

    Set the BDEL in all 3 maps to "140" with a slight taper down to "130" from 5500 RPM to 7000 RPM. This value added to the load offset value of "100" gives you a desired load of "240" through most of the rev band which is equal to about 22 psi. We're tapering down the top end to reduce the chance of knock.

    Max Wastegate Duty - Again, there are 3 maps. The same thing stands ... I honestly don't know which is which. Edit all 3.

    Reduce the values in the Max WGDC tables to about "30." A setting this low is likely to not offer any boost control at all and you will likely see only wastegate spring pressure. Don't worry, we'll be adjusting this map a bit.

    Boost Limit - Raise the values in this table to "270." If you're a little worried about overboost you can taper these values toward redline for safety. Just don't drop the values below about desired load + 15 or you're likely to hit the cut a few times while adjusting your boost. You can also adjust these values to more tolerable levels after you've dialed in your boost.

    Optional Min Temp for Full Boost Control - This is another safety table that keeps you from boosting like crazy before the car is warmed up. I lowered this value slightly to "82."

    Time to log
    Well, we haven't spoken much about logging. When you log, it's best to log the full RPM range from about 2000 to 7000, much like a dyno pull. This should be done in at least 3rd gear, but 4th is preferred if you have a safe location. You log in higher gears for several reasons:

    - In higher gears boost levels are less erratic.
    - RPM's climb slower, allowing you to log more data.
    - The engine is under higher physical load (not directly related to logged load %) and more likely to knock, allowing for a safer tune.

    When you first start logging, it's probably best to log anything and everything you can since you will not know exactly what information you're looking for. As you learn more, you'll narrow down and re-arrange the information logged to suit you're tuning needs. However, you should always log these values:

    TPS
    RPM
    Load % (i suggest performing the 2-byte load mod for more accuracy)
    AFR from a wideband O2
    Boost (if possible)
    Timing Advance
    WGDC (Here's how)
    and, most importantly, KNOCK COUNT

    Any time you log a run you will need to monitor knock count. Knock is a record of what may be detonation or pre-ignition, which is VERY BAD for your motor. Ideally, you always want to aim for 0 knock count over your entire log. Sometimes a random knock count of less than 3 is acceptable depending on how bold you are. Knock counts higher than 3 usually begin to pull timing for safety, so you definitely want to stay below that number.

    There is something called "phantom knock" than can be caused by shock or vibration. Phantom knock can be diagnosed by logging an additional pull in a slightly different location. If the knock occurs in this second log in the same location, then it is real knock and you need to adjust your maps to compensate.

    Knock is generally caused by factors you can control such as AFR, boost and timing advance. If you experience knock, look at the values in that RPM range and you're likely to see something out of wack. You AFR might be too lean or too rich, you might have too much timing advance or a dramatic jump in timing, or there may be a boost or load spike in the area. The more you tune, the easier it will be to find the issue and correct it.

    Setting your final boost levels
    To dial in your boost you'll have to log several runs. If you don't have a way to log boost levels, it might be a good idea to have a passenger watch your boost gauge and keep you informed in case something were to go awry. If none of these options are available to you, you'll just have to rely on your load levels.

    Remember, your ECU is aiming to hit 240% load but is currently being limited by the decreased WGDC cap. As you log, you'll notice that you're not hitting the load levels requested. After you log a run, increase the Max WGDC values in all 3 tables until you reach your desired load levels while constantly monitoring for knock.

    If you experience knock, check your AFR and timing advance. You want an AFR below 11.3:1 or so. If your AFR is leaner (above 11.3:1), lower the AFR to correct for knock ... if AFR is between 10.5 and 11.3, lower timing advance. You will be fine tuning these values later.

    After several runs you should have your WGDC dialed in to where it needs to be. When you are getting close to where you want to be, be sure to compare your WGDC logs to the Max WGDC table in ECUFlash. You may find that the numbers you are logging are slightly lower than what the maps define. This is caused by the error correction table making adjustments for overboost. Look through your log and locate the overboost area and adjust accordingly.

    Your Max WGDC values should be lower in the 3000 RPM to 4500 RPM range and ramp upward after 6000 RPM to achieve a stable boost curve. Remember, we're looking for 22 psi tapering down slightly toward redline.

    Once you have your boost almost exactly where you want it, add back a little error correction to the top half of the table. A correction of 3% at -20 boost error should be fine. Taper down to 0 correction at -2.5 boost error. This will help flatten your load curve by keeping you within +/- 2.5% of your requested load. After adding back the correction for the load being lower, you might see an overall increase of about 3 in your WGDC curve. It's nothing to worry about. It's because you're not at your desired load during spool up and the BCS is now trying to correct for it. It all balances out ... that's what this table is for.

    Congratulations, you've set the boost levels on your Evo. You can work a little more on fine tuning these tables if you feel confident about it. One change I've made is to increase the BDEL values in the peak torque area to allow for slight overboost. This reduces the effects of the error correction table which can sometimes over-correct and cause a dip in your boost curve just after the boost peaks. You could also fine tune the boost limit values and the error correction to better suit your needs. Play around and have fun with it.


    For richer or leaner

    Woo Hoo! You've made your first logs, set your boost levels, and determined the load areas you'll be working with from now on. Good job. Now it's time move on to the fuel.

    As (I hope) you know, internal combustion engines burn more than just gasoline. They burn a fuel mixture of gasoline and oxygen. The ratio of this mixture is very important to the performance of your Evo. The science behind this mixture in relation to horsepower is somewhat advanced, so I'll leave the explanation to the experts at Innovate Motorsports. Head over to their video page and watch the video named "LM-101 'Tuning Basics'" for a detailed look at why we tune for specific fuel ratios.

    *snore*

    ... Aaahhh! Oh, your done with the video. Cool. So, now you have a basic understanding of the stoichiometric ratio and why turbocharged engines run richer than naturally aspirated engines.

    Okay, are you ready for the let down? As the video stated, we're aiming for an air to fuel ratio of 10% to 15% richer than stoich ... that would put our goal right around 12.6:1 (since we're tuning a boosted engine). Well, the thing is that number is completely unreasonable for a normal street car. Why? Because our fuel sucks. Plain and simple.

    Here in the Southeast, we have 93 octane fuel, which I guess is better than those poor saps elsewhere in the country who have to deal with 91. But, even with our superior 93 octane fuel, that ideal 12.6:1 mix is overly optimistic. You see, the lower the octane rating of a fuel, the less stable it is under pressure and therefore more likely to spontaneously combust in to pre-ignition or detonation. As I explained earlier, this is bad.

    So, we must lower the bar, accept defeat, and cry ourselves to sleep as we aim toward a more realistic mixture of around 11.0:1 to 11.5:1 while boosting.

    Some things to consider
    The fuel map isn't as straight forward as it might seem. There are a couple of small nuances that you should know about ...

    The values in the fuel map are not actual AFR values. They do represent AFR and look like AFR values, but they are not a reference to the actual mix. Just remember that raising the value takes away fuel and lowering the value adds fuel.

    Mitsubishi decided to do some funny thing with the fuel map that leans the actual mix within a certain range in comparison the the mapped value. This is commonly referred to as "lean spool." You might notice that there is a significant value shift on the fuel map between 2000 RPM and 2500 RPM ... that's where the lean spool effect begins. This really doesn't effect your tuning other than throwing off the values even in the fuel map even more. Lean spool can be disabled, and there is a tutorial on EvoM that will show you how.

    Here is a comparison of 2 fuel maps. The top map still has lean spool enabled and the lower one has no lean spool.



    Also, there are 2 fuel maps. One labeled "High Octane" and one "Low Octane." The high octane map is the first map referenced and will be the map used if you are experiencing no knock. The low octane map is referenced if the motor sustains knock over a period of time. Your logging software should have an octane value that you are able to log. This value will let you know if you are using the high or low octane map. The octane value will drop when you hit more than 6 counts of knock. When this value drops, the ECU begins interpolating between the high and low octane maps for fuel and timing. How much interpolation actually occurs is speculation, but just know that it happens. So, if you see this value drop, your log will not be accurate. Locate the source of the knock, repair it and try again.

    Setting a nice fuel curve
    So, now we know what we are aiming for and we can begin tuning. You can start your fuel tuning based on your final boost log. Here is what you want to do:

    From 3500 RPM to about 6000 RPM you want to aim for an AFR of about 11.2:1. This is a safe value for pump gas. With higher octane fuel you can go leaner.

    Here is a trick for you ... remember that magical 12.6:1 AFR I mentioned earlier? There is a way we can make use of that optimum burn. At low RPM, while the turbo is still trying to spool, it is much less likely to knock. This is because without boost, our engines are just low compression 4-bangers. I've found that running this 12.6 (or so) AFR during spool up will actually help the turbo spool faster than the basic ramp down to 11.2:1. I've successfully run an AFR in the mid 12s up to 13 psi on the stock turbo with 0 knock. This helped the turbo reach full boost about 250 RPM sooner.

    At the high end of the revs, it's a good idea to gradually richen the mix since knock is often seen at higher RPM. An AFR of 10.9:1 is a safe value at 7000+ RPM. Ramp down to this value starting around 6000 RPM.

    Remember, while tuning, always monitor for knock and make small, gradual changes. If you see knock while tuning your AFR, pull timing or reduce boost if there is a spike.

    You're looking for something similar to this ...



    See, the process is getting a little easier now, huh?




    Excuse me, do you have the timing?

    You're half way there ... let's move on to setting the timing. Now, the "timing" I'm talking about here it the adjustment of the moment when the spark plug fires to ignite the fuel.

    There are 3 high octane timing maps, and 3 low octane timing maps on your Evo IX. These high and low octane maps work the same as the fuel maps ... if knock is encountered for an extended period of time, some interpolation will occur. You want to focus on the high octane maps right now.

    If you compare the 3 high octane maps, you'll notice that they are not the same. Map #2 is a little more aggressive with more advance across most of the map. As mentioned earlier, it's speculated that the #2 map is the main map used during normal operating conditions. I've personally found that interpolation occurs across (mainly) the #2 and #3 maps even when no knock is present.

    So, the tactic I've found most useful is setting all of the high octane maps with the same values. This produces dependable results and makes your life a lot simpler. Don't worry ... if something goes wrong, you'll still have the low octane maps to keep the car safe.

    Let's talk theory
    There is a theory that many tuners use as a guide for tuning timing. It's referred to as "Minimum Timing for Best Torque" (MTBT).

    Looking at tuning from the most basic sense, timing advance makes power. This is what some tuners will set the timing unusually high and let the ECU's built in safety features correct for it ... more on that later. However, it is believed that there is a point where advancing the timing does not produce extra power ... it simple makes the engine more prone to knock. So, according to the MTBT theory, the best way to set timing advance is to advance it until you don't gain any more power. Tuning this way gives you more room to make power other ways, such as a leaner fuel mix or cam advance.

    The MTBT theory is based on an absolute fact that an engine will produce the most power when peak cylinder pressure occurs at 15* past top dead center (TDC). This is the point in the ignition stroke where the rod has the most leverage to turn the crank. Now, you might think that 15* is an absolute number that we are aiming for, but it's not. We can control when the spark fires, but that doesn't mean at that exact moment the cylinder pressure is at it's greatest ... it's an involved process. We must consider the gap and temperature of the plug, the time it takes for the fuel to reach its maximum potential and the speed at which the engine is spinning.

    To use this method of tuning, you'll need some way to measure the power output of the motor. The obvious and most effective way is on a dynamometer. But, dyno time is expensive and tuning takes time. Some of us don't really have much of either. There are other solutions though ... you can use some pretty complex equations and create your own road dyno. This will allow you to measure your cars performance based only on the values you can log from your ECU. You do need to know some vital info though .. such as vehicle weight, drag coefficient, gear ratios, frontal area of the vehicle, ambient temps, etc. Many self tuners use Data Log Lab for this analysis. EvoScan also has a power/torque calculation feature built in to the graph viewer, but I've found it do be only marginally useful.

    The best road dyno solution I've found so far is offered by a fellow Evo tuner you may know as "mrfred." His Excel based power/torque calculator is free, easy to use, and accurate. Plus, it's already set up for an IX MR. All you have to do is paste in the RPM and time values from your log. You'll get a result similar to this ...

    (Image to come)

    Note
    When using a road dyno your results will not be as accurate as an actual dynamometer. Since the calculations are based mainly on RPM gain over time, the actual road surface you choose can skew the numbers produced. It is highly recommended that you only compare data recorded on the same stretch of road if you want reliable results.

    Time to make some actual changes
    Timing can be advanced (+) or retarded (-) in regard to TDC (0). Advanced timing means that the spark fires before TDC and retarded means ignition occurs after TDC. I know it seems backward, but trust me.

    We are aiming for peak pressue at the magical 15* ATDC. Now, lets look at the individual components that affect this peak pressue and when it occurs:

    RPM - The speed the engine is spinning. This one is simple. The faster the engine is spinning, the earlier the spark has to fire for the burn to keep up.

    Fuel - The A:F mix affects the length of the fuel burn in the cylinder. A leaner mix will burn faster, and will therefore require less advance to hit the 15* mark. The opposite is true for a richer mix. The added fuel will take longer to burn and will require more advance.

    Also, the fuel octane should be considered here as well. The octane level doesn't really affect the timing needed, but more so the timing range available while avoiding knock. 87 octane fuel will burn exactly like 93, but you are less likely to reach your desired ignition point on 87 before you encounter pre-ignition.

    Spark - The spark is probably the most crucial component in this array of variables. The heat range and gap of the plug play a very important role in the process. A "colder" (lower heat range) plug will slow the burn of the fuel and reduce the chance of knock by keeping cylinder temps and the temperature of the plug tip itself lower. This is important for us because cylinder pressures are generally higher in forced induction engines ... this increased pressure combined with excess heat is usually the cause of knock.

    Note: The basic rule is that you need to go 1 heat range colder after adding 100hp to the car.

    The material of which the spark plug's electrode is made should also be considered. Our cars come equipped with iridium plugs. Iridium is used as an electrode material because it does not corrode or melt in the cylinder like plugs of the past. This property creates a reliable spark over an extended period of time. Some people choose to run copper plugs for their increased conductivity. This is an advantage and is likely to give a slight increase in power. However, copper electrodes wear extremely fast in our cars and need to be changed every 5000 miles or earlier.

    Basically, if you have some power mods on your Evo you want to run a colder plug (Stock IX = ILFR7H ... NGK only makes a colder plug in it's racing series, which is R7437-Cool. The plug gap should be on the high end of factory spec for best performance. Gap for the IX should be between .020 and .024. This kind of sucks because replacement plugs come at .044 or .032, which will likely cause misfire issues. Maybe the dealer sells the ILFR7H @ a .22 gap, but I've only seen them at .044. Either way, here is a list of plugs that will work.

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    an interesting read and it all seems ok.

    this is the approch i try adopt now, set the boost then the AFR then the ignition timing.
    a bit simplistic description, but hey i am simple person.

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    What I thinking now is to set reference point now, i mean bit of road which can be use for road dyno runs and run on it after alteration and be able to compare if we go in right direction. Must be straight bit which allows to run on 4th gear from 2krpm to 7krpm, preferably up hill.

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    why 4th, 3rd is easier,
    but we will have to ensure we chack the actual timing advance in the logs afterwards. just because we add more timing it does not alway mean we get more timing if the ECU is already saying enough is enough i am pulling timing.

    we will have to revisit the maps.

    i am running 6 deg timing all day without knock, so i will add in to this map all the timing i was running in the mid to low end of the map which should premote spool up lower down in the rev range.

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    Mainly 4th because I think it will put more load to the engine, which what I'm after, tweaked under highest load will be safer, is it ??

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    it is, but you will be doing about 130 at 7K in forth.
    in 3rd you will be doing about 90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davezj View Post
    an interesting read and it all seems ok.

    this is the approch i try adopt now, set the boost then the AFR then the ignition timing.
    a bit simplistic description, but hey i am simple person.
    I will try to follow @Kenneth advice

    1) Get wideband installed and logging with your logging software (Evoscan)
    2) Do 2 byte RPM and Load mods to MUT table (you of course can download a ROM which already has it)
    3) Log AFR, RPM, Load and knock values
    4) Play with AFR values to get ~11.5:1 AFR minimum
    5) Adjust ignition to retard timing to remove any knock where knock is reported
    6) Adjust ignition timing adding advance on other areas of the map where I drive at low loads
    7) Smooth out ignition table

    8) Increase boost
    9) repeat steps 3-7
    If I understand this right is not boost give us biggest gains, (see @swinks results with 0.9 BAR vs yours at 1.5 BAR) is (me think) the right fuelling AND ignition tables and then increased boost, I need to fit another temp sensor in intake and hook up to UTCOM to monitor increased boost intake temps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davezj View Post
    it is, but you will be doing about 130 at 7K in forth.
    in 3rd you will be doing about 90.
    Point taken, better to not loose the licence

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    Quote Originally Posted by adaxo View Post
    I will try to follow @Kenneth advice



    If I understand this right is not boost give us biggest gains, (see @swinks results with 0.9 BAR vs yours at 1.5 BAR) is (me think) the right fuelling AND ignition tables and then increased boost, I need to fit another temp sensor in intake and hook up to UTCOM to monitor increased boost intake temps.
    this why i have reduced my boost to 1.0 bar and spent some time in setting it up to be as stable as i can get it.
    i have then i have set the AFR on LPG to 12.0-12.5 and kept on adding timing until i get knock, then i will back it off until i get a stable 3rd gear pulls with no knock.
    then i will do some 4th and 5th gear pulls to see if i get knock, due to odd situation of very high load and lower rpm, so that rigion of the table will probably need to be adjusted as well.

    by the way i have created a map that combines my current +6 deg above 100 load and the +8 deg in the 50-140 load region to make an interesting map. i have increased the lower region timing to try and get the turbos spooling even earlier in the rev range to make the power come on even sooner. this is more for a test to see if this theory works. this would be useful for a TD04 conversion, as they will spool later in the rev range, so if it works then it can be applied to a later spooling TD04.
    I will have to see if it works. individually both maps worked well with limited knock so a bit of tweeking and i am hoping it will be good. i will have to test it tomorrow.
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