Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 47

Thread: Innovate

  1. #21
    Davezj's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Dave
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Last Online
    09-01-2024
    Membership ID
    255
    Posts
    16,245
    Country
    England
    Location
    Manchester
    Car
    VR-4
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Always good to check and double check before splashing the cash.

    Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk

    Bye for Now!

  2. #22

    Offline
     
    Name
    Stuart
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Last Online
    26-08-2021
    Posts
    297
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Gatwick
    Car
    Toyota MR2
     
    John, Do you think you could get to Ashtead on Monday? or if not, Burgh Heath any day from Tuesday?

    I've just taken delivery of an MTX-L (model is quoted as 3844 if that makes a difference?) but won't be fitting it until Confused's garage day at the earliest. You're welcome to try it.

    Stuart

  3. #23
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Thanks Stuart that would be great , I see if I can get it tested at a friend of mine sons garage before but if not I’ll be in touch and see about Monday

  4. #24
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    @jaspa / Stuart pm sent .

  5. #25
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Have cleaned and recalibrated in free air sensor and gone for a drive car drives ok but once I give it a bit more throttle I get the E8 code come back.
    I turn off and let it cool down and when I start up I am getting 22 showing at first but then it starts showing me readings that are a bit lean, I have now ordered a new sensor and will have the AFR tested just to make sure it is it but I think it is the sensor.

    On another note I think running to rich also affects the sensor as I have read in other posts.

  6. #26
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Just heard back from innovate and they say sensor is on it’s way out so needs replacing

  7. #27
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Been nearly two years since I replaced the sensor but now I am getting 22.4 showing all the time have done a recalibrate and run engine but still the same, didn’t run engine for to long, how long should it take to start giving me a reading ?
    Any idea to try before I contact innovate ??

  8. #28
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    I replaced my sensor and it all worked fine I got the cheaper one this time it says it is guaranteed so will see

  9. #29
    MYKEY's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Michael
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Posts
    486
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Essex
    Car
    Type V Saloon
     
    @galantnight How's the latest sensor holding up ?
    I've been having lean running issues on and off for a while now. Where did you buy the sensor from ??

  10. #30
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Hi Michael,
    I have replaced it again since then 3 times in fact as the ones I got failed and they were replaced, I then got one from a different supplier on EBay and it seems to be ok but saying that I haven’t started car up for about 2 months now so hopefully this weekend I will get to start her up and running as show season starts next month

  11. #31
    MYKEY's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Michael
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Posts
    486
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Essex
    Car
    Type V Saloon
     
    @galantnight Bloody hell, that's bad...i take it Innovate are not interested in the problem ?

  12. #32
    Confused's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Garry
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Membership ID
    714
    Posts
    3,536
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Notts
    Car
    Legnum VR-4
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Innovate wideband controllers are notorious for killing sensors - they have an extremely aggressive sensor warm-up strategy, and additionally it is very easy to "thermally shock" them, by sitting with the ignition on - heating the sensor - before starting the engine.

  13. #33
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Quote Originally Posted by MYKEY View Post
    @galantnight Bloody hell, that's bad...i take it Innovate are not interested in the problem ?
    Said it was not something that they could help with apart from the usual advice

  14. #34
    galantnight's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    john
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Last Online
    20-03-2024
    Membership ID
    702
    Posts
    947
    Country
    England
    Location
    surrey
    Car
    galant VR4-S
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Quote Originally Posted by Confused View Post
    Innovate wideband controllers are notorious for killing sensors - they have an extremely aggressive sensor warm-up strategy, and additionally it is very easy to "thermally shock" them, by sitting with the ignition on - heating the sensor - before starting the engine.
    My just failed and the replacement ones that I got didn’t last a few start ups so I changed it to a different supplier and hopefully now ok

  15. #35
    Confused's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Garry
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Membership ID
    714
    Posts
    3,536
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Notts
    Car
    Legnum VR-4
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    They don't "just fail" - Innovate controllers do kill them.

    I picked a PLX controller and sensor out of a box and threw it in a car the other day - it fired straight into life and worked perfectly - with the stock narrowband O2 sensor still in place, the PLX swung from 14.5 to 14.9 - right what it should do to maintain stoich fuelling!


    Be careful when buying replacement sensors - there are also a HUGE number of fakes out there.

    Basically, if you're paying less than £90 for it, it's a fake.

    I got my last few now from Brands Hatch Performance, as I know they're genuine. Hopefully won't need to buy any more for a while now that I know not to sit with the ignition on then start the car!

  16. #36
    MYKEY's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Michael
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Posts
    486
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Essex
    Car
    Type V Saloon
     
    What options would there be for a re-mapped car other than shelling out for a new sensor every couple of years @GARRY Mine has been running lean so i calibrated it, worked fine for a week or so, now is jumping around 17~20

  17. #37
    Confused's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Garry
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Membership ID
    714
    Posts
    3,536
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Notts
    Car
    Legnum VR-4
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    Do you ever turn the ignition on, then wait until starting the car? Or even turn the ignition on, don't start the car, go away for 5 minutes then come back and start the car up?

    Other than that, all I can probably suggest is a different controller - a number of people here have been successfully using the PLX SM-AFR for a number of years, and if you want the gauge, a DM-6.

    I have been using an LD Performance controller on my Anglia (although, I have killed sensors due to sitting with the ignition on, something I have now fixed in my Link ECU by only allowing it to power on 30 seconds after the engine has started).

    I have also heard good things about the 14Point7 products, although I have not personally used them. I am not sure of how good the longevity of the newer AEM controllers are, but I do see them in use a bit due to the CANBUS output, which modern aftermarket ECUs use rather than an analogue input.

    Or, you stick with the Innovate, and treat the sensors as consumable items, and regularly change them, like you would your oil.

  18. #38
    MYKEY's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Michael
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Posts
    486
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Essex
    Car
    Type V Saloon
     
    Guilty....I've often sat and waited until its heated up before starting. The LD performance looks good and at £139 not to expensive either

  19. #39
    Confused's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Garry
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Membership ID
    714
    Posts
    3,536
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Notts
    Car
    Legnum VR-4
    My Garage
    Visit
     
    That'll be what's killing them then!

  20. #40
    MYKEY's Avatar

    Offline
     
    Name
    Michael
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Today
    Posts
    486
    Country
    United Kingdom
    Location
    Essex
    Car
    Type V Saloon
     
    If i was to change the Innovate for the LD Performance would there be anything else i need to do or would it just be a straight swap ?

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Innovate LC1 problem.
    By Mark 4 in forum ECUs / Mapping
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 06-08-2011, 03:34 PM
  2. Innovate LC-1 and XD-16 help needed.
    By swinks in forum Engine
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-09-2010, 01:40 AM
  3. FS: (Possibly) Innovate XD-1 kit
    By spm01 in forum UK Parts for Sale / Wanted
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-10-2008, 08:57 PM
  4. FS: Innovate LM-1
    By Wodjno in forum UK Parts for Sale / Wanted
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 12-10-2006, 11:22 AM
  5. Innovate LM-1
    By Wodjno in forum UK Parts for Sale / Wanted
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 25-08-2005, 11:34 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •