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    Brakes for Nurburgring

    Hi all,
    I plan to take my recently acquired Legnum on a roadtrip through Germany in September, including hopefully a bit of tourist driving on the Nurburgring..
    For peace of mind, I'm thinking I probably ought to throw some new pads and discs at the car. I'm not a racer, I don't want or need race brakes or suspension, just don't like the idea of going around the ring on older unknown kit!
    eBay has plenty of options, but just wondering if anybody can attest to anything? EBC is twice the price of the cheap stuff, but maybe the cheap stuff would do just fine? Just looking for recommendations if anybody has any? Would be much appreciated.
    Also, I tried to get in touch with Area52 Motorsport in Nottingham about some mapping (facebook messaged, called, left a message etc) as I saw they've catered to the club in the past, but nobody there has got back to me yet. Does anybody on the forum have a direct line to anybody there or do I just need to keep chasing them?
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    I certainly wouldn't like "stock" brakes, EBC YellowStuff seemed to be a good price/performance ratio, without going to full on race brakes (like Carbotech XP-8)


    All of our stuff at Area 52 has been us renting the dyno, they've not actually done any of the mapping itself.

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    Stock calipers will fade badly if you're pressing on around the track. I had a few scary moments whilst enjoying spirited drives before I upgraded to Brembo's with decent pads.

    Ferodo DS2500 or DS Performance pads may be a good choice on the stock calipers.
    '97 Manual Legnum in silver with some subtle mods

    My first VR4 - '97 Legnum Dark Green & mean ...it was love at first sight - now sold

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    The ring is surprisingly easy on brakes. EBC yellowstuff would be a good shout IMO. Also make sure you renew the fluid - if that is a few years old it will be fading fast as it heats up.

    Have fun! And watch a load of youtube videos on ring crashes before you drive it - that should keep you in check!!

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    Well, I've ordered all the parts, but the plan looks like its scuppered. After two hour of driving it at the weekend it started overheating at low revs, and the next day the temp is showing just below horizontal.. The original overheating made me think water pump, and then the low temp suggests the thermostat or both are knackered. I'm working through it now, but having never worked on an engine like this before everything seems to be taking a lot longer than planned.. Not sure I'm going to have the time to get it sorted

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    Better you found the overheating issue now rather than on the continent where it tends to be a tad warmer!
    Still here somewhere........

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    It is normal for the temperature gauge to sit just below horizontal. "About half past 8" is correct.

    When pushing on, and putting a lot of heat into the turbos, this heat is transferred via the oil and water to the engine's cooling system - it's pretty good, about 10-15 minutes on track is about when I expect the temperature gauge to creep up. I know Lucas did both short and long journeys, and drove it like it was designed to be and like a granny, and didn't have any overheating issues with it (otherwise he'd have likely been on the phone to me asking for some help!) - and I didn't experience that when I borrowed it, either, so it's surprising to hear you've had this so soon

    The dash temperature gauge is fed via this sensor - for the sake of £7.50 (at current price) I'd be tempted to change it and see if the problem remains.

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    Be careful, you will struggle with standard callipers even with some decent DS2500s which are probably the best pad for a VR4.
    A quite lap can be easy on the brakes but if there is a lot of traffic you will be using the brakes a lot to get out of the way or avoid anyone’s cock up in front of you. Be aware there are some Irish nutters out there !

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    I used DS2500 on my VR-4 and did not loose my brakes but prob not pushing on as much as others

    Unless you are on track day it is prob harder now to get extended clear track and not have to brake/move out of the way of other traffic

    If it's a first trip you would prob not be pushing on and work the brakes as hard as others

    Going as fast as you can along anything resembling a 'straight' and then braking hard for any bend will certainly wear the brakes much more

    But if first visit, such driving may see you going off the track perhaps within first few bends and all that might entail...

    Get car sorted and perhaps wait to go with some people from here with experience of the place and then share laps/follow people to get an idea of the place...

    And have a LOT more fun

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