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    Why does the 2.5ltr V6 Galant (6A13) kick out less bhp, 170bhp ish compared to the 2.0ltr V6 FTO (6A12) which is 180bhp.... very very strange!
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    its coz i'm unlucky how does the torque figures compare?

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    May be worth looking at putting the cams and air intakes onto the Galant from and FTO almost everything else looks the same.

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    MIVEC

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    The cylinders are different bores - would the cams line up?

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    FTO`s torque is 19.5 (kgf*m) at 4000rpm
    Galants is 22 at 5100

    So the torque is slightly better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaveakers
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    The MIVEC is the 200bhp FTO (well 197) Ive already considered a MIVEC set of cams on a 6A13. I think it may work.... I will get some and we can have a play Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Mann
    The cylinders are different bores - would the cams line up?
    The easiest way to go from 2 to 2.5 ltr would be to make the cylinders larger and bore them out evenly in which case they should.

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    have you got a picture of the fto's inlet manifold

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    ooppss that site appears to be down at the moment... try this one

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    the inlet look very similar to the v6 one . ooh hang on i found a piccy of mine
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    if you've got an inlet manifold kicking about i'll pop over and try it

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    I will see if I can get my hands on one as yours seems to bunch up at the top where as the FTO one spreads out into a nice large chamber.

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    thats what i thought , the plenum does seem a lot longer which may explain a bit of the difference , nice if that was the main difference , 15hp just from an inlet manifold

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    Ah that other pic is back now

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    just had a thought, the cams off a fto will not fit because unless i'm much mistaken the galant only runs twin cam with V finger rockers opperating 2 valves , whereas the fto runs a quad cam setup i:e one lobe one valve , still the inlet is worth a try

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    ah right, didnt realise the Galant wasn`t quad cam as there is a 6A13 Quad Cam NA engine available in NZ, but we think it was only a limited production run for crash tests etc...

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    yeh it seems a bit daft fitting different heads just for one model , i mean all the other mitsus that use that bottom end either in 2.0 2.5 or 3.0 are all quad cam apart from the galant , oh well just proves they are special don't it

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    hmmm so what about fitting quad cam heads and new timing belts, shouldn`t be a large job

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    have you had any luck with the inlet manifold yet?

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