MAF removal

[enigma]

and conversion to speed density system............

Coming to a Legnum near you soon!

[Wodjno]

and conversion to speed density system............

Coming to a Legnum near you soon!

Is this on your current car or the Racer ..

Oh ! And good luck

[enigma]

Is this on your current car or the Racer ..

yes

[bradc]

wahoo, you finally saw the light! And I know who's car convinced you

[enigma]

wahoo, you finally saw the light! And I know who's car convinced you

Not at all! Its just that I can! I like to tinker, and further the knowledge of the club!

I am not really after the performance benefit myself as I already have more power than I can use day to day, and even more if I want it at the track! BUT there are people out there who are interested in developing their cars and I aim to provide how tos and a testbed!

I am suprised you chaps in NZ haven't done it yet, as it is a cheap and seemingly easy mod from a NZ supplier!

I paid $399us for it to be shipped to my door! Imagine how much it would be for locals!

While a certain member has gone to town going the no maf route, he seems to be unaware as to how it was done. I am not in to paying someone to do stuff, I would much rather do my own thing and share the wealth!

[bradc]

I'm going to be removing my maf as well and going with a similar setup to Uc, I don't know much about the exact workings of lots of this like this, but I know I want to get rid of the maf.

Who sells this thing in NZ?

[enigma]

try these good people

performance motor research

You may get a very good price!

[Kenneth]

try these good people

performance motor research

You may get a very good price!

I was planning on one of them myself, have had their site bookmarked for about a year

$399US eh? I heard they were around $1100NZ

I'll have to inquire, because $399US should be within my budget pretty soon


did you get it direct from them???

[enigma]

I was planning on one of them myself, have had their site bookmarked for about a year

$399US eh? I heard they were around $1100NZ

I'll have to inquire, because $399US should be within my budget pretty soon


did you get it direct from them???

Yep Direct!

Speak to Peter and tell him I sent you

[Kenneth]

Yep Direct!

Speak to Peter and tell him I sent you

did you ring, or use email? if email, you got his email? im supposed to get pricing info from one of their re-sellers (thats what the web site says anyway) but im not really interested in going thru a middle-man

[AllBeItMine]

I think that you'll find that a MAP ECU like any other fuel controller, when used with bigger injectors, screws your timing by advancing it, because it thinks there is less airflow. The end result is knock. To get the most out of it you'll need somthing to retard the timing like an E manage or Apexi ITC used with it.

[enigma]

I think that you'll find that a MAP ECU like any other fuel controller, when used with bigger injectors, screws your timing by advancing it, because it thinks there is less airflow. The end result is knock. To get the most out of it you'll need somthing to retard the timing like an E manage or Apexi ITC used with it.

Bigger injectors not required

Not just yet anyway!

Its not really about the fuel controller, its about the MAF removal - just for the hell of it!

[Wodjno]

Sell yur E-Manage and your Speed Density System

And puchase an E-Manage Ultimate..

I'm sure you could find someone to supply you with one

[enigma]

Sell yur E-Manage and your Speed Density System

And puchase an E-Manage Ultimate..

I'm sure you could find someone to supply you with one

It doesn't auto learn though! A LOT more effort to map properly for MAF removal.

The MAP ECU can be installed on the car and forgotten about for 2 weeks while you go about your normal business! Then swap it to output mode and remoe the MAF A bit of tweaking later and you are done! Easy enough even for you Glenn!

[Kenneth]

I think that you'll find that a MAP ECU like any other fuel controller, when used with bigger injectors, screws your timing by advancing it, because it thinks there is less airflow. The end result is knock. To get the most out of it you'll need somthing to retard the timing like an E manage or Apexi ITC used with it.

Wont the knock sensors pick this up and the ECU retard the ignition? I assumed this was essentially how it works out if you are using inferior fuel.

[AllBeItMine]

Wont the knock sensors pick this up and the ECU retard the ignition? I assumed this was essentially how it works out if you are using inferior fuel.

probably - but why would you want that to happen?

i looked pretty seriously at both the emanage and the mapecu but they are both piggy back systems that fool your ECU into thinking stuff is happening that actually isn't.

it just bends the signals from the airflow metre which makes the stock ecu inject more/less fuel... but the ECU is also programmed to do other stuff at the same time like play with the ignition and timing.

i think for close enough money to the mapecu piggy back, a full replacement programable ECU could be bought and tuned to completely control everything so nothing is left to chance.

[enigma]

probably - but why would you want that to happen?

i looked pretty seriously at both the emanage and the mapecu but they are both piggy back systems that fool your ECU into thinking stuff is happening that actually isn't.

it just bends the signals from the airflow metre which makes the stock ecu inject more/less fuel... but the ECU is also programmed to do other stuff at the same time like play with the ignition and timing.

i think for close enough money to the mapecu piggy back, a full replacement programable ECU could be bought and tuned to completely control everything so nothing is left to chance.

Show me a fully programmable ECU for $400us!

[Wodjno]

Show me a fully programmable ECU for $400us!

[AllBeItMine]

Show me a fully programmable ECU for $400us!

The entry level Link ECU is $850NZD the link plus is $1300

[The Vee]

Show me a fully programmable ECU for $400us!

Think this would be the route I'd choose if I ever went that far. Interesting debate this one. So what's the deal Wodj?