A note of caution regarding Bilstein's B12 Kit

[Kalle]

I contacted my retailer in Sweden who claims that those shocks are not yet planned for production..? Is this BS then?

[n13l pm]

hmm... thats strange to be fair. Bilstein directed me to ECP and MSW gets there's from ECP. Wouldnt have thought the cost would vary that much!

EDIT:// Just ran a check from both and both seem to have identical prices, even to the nearest penny! (speedbox and MSW) £460.01

ok fair play MSW and speedbox prices seems to be the same, but notice speedbox has free delivery! better then nuthing.

ecp quoted me sumthing like £440 + VAT and plus postage.

[Spirit]

Got mine from ECP originally and paid more. It could be that as the official importer they are restricted on discounting or could lose their status, if that makes sense ?

[n13l pm]

Hi

I might finally get a friend to fit in my B12 kit this weekend, but just wanted to ask two questions to you all (this is so that i know hes doing it correctly)...

Two of the springs are for the front and two for the rear, which one is which? i got two different shapes?

Same goes for the shocks?

probly seems like basic questions to those of you who have fitted shocks and springs before, its just that my manuals in german!

Thanks in advance.

Neil

[Kieran]

The coils with the thicker diameter are at the front. they *may* be slighly shorter in length than the rears.

As for the shocks, the rear ones have a rubber bushing with a metal eyelet at the bottom. The fronts don't.

The Eyelet is tapered - bear this in mind when you install - they should only go in one way.

If you've not done it before - head into the library and download the front and rear suspension manuals. They will be invaluable to you!

[n13l pm]

oh right, nice one mate.

Cant wait to finally get them on.. they have been in my garage for over a month now!

[Kieran]

A quick note on this.... The shocks arrived within 10 days - seems that EuroCar Parts have got their act together at last!

[n13l pm]

I finally got around to installing my B12 Kit.

Its a solid transformation. I purchased the kit as my old rear shocks had been kaned and I wanted to lower the car and as I had the money I went for the full kit.

Money well spent, the car is soo low and the shocks have made a massive difference. All the roll on corners and round-abouts have gone and the car feels as solid as you like. Handling is unreal.

One of the main reasons why I upgraded was bacause I didnt like the massive gap in the wheel arches, and this kit has sorted it that out with ease. My front arch had about 9cm of a gap as it could fit my whole fist length ways!! now its about 4cm I would say and looks heavy (i got before and after pics). I need to watch it when going over speed bumps but otherwise its really good, theres no tyre to arch rub with three people in the car and I cant see there being any even with more people in the car.

I'll post pictures of it soon.

[Spirit]

Glad you're happy with it mate. I remember the first time mine was lowered off the ramps and I watch it settle to how low she is. Speedbumps are now your enemy......avoid whenever possible !

[The Vee]

Look forward to the pics - interested to see the ride height on a V6

[n13l pm]

Look forward to the pics - interested to see the ride height on a V6

Sorry for the delay.. the before and after B12 kit pics..










Sorry the pictures are not in the same angle.

[The Vee]

Now that looks good

[pezza]

Now that is perfect......perfect perfect


It sits higher than the VR4 with the same suspension (I guess weight related)

But that is better IMO

Much improved ride? Good to know how it behaves with 5 people in the car too

[n13l pm]

Yeah the weight on the VR4 makes it sit lower and most of them (not sure if all) have a arch kit so it looks even lower. But dont get me wrong I wouldnt want it any more lower then this, as it is the front bumper is sooo low (cant really tell from the pictures) and the fact that im london theres speed bumps all over the place.

Handling is great, im taking corners and round-abouts at speeds other only do in straight line roads!! Hardly any roll if any. I took my parents to the airport the other day, three people in the car and the boot packed out and i couldnt fault it.

However this is my first car iv changed the suspension on so maybe im getting a bit carried away..

[Spirit]

Did notice it wasn't as low as mine, and came to the same conclusion that it's either the weight or they have changed the spring specs.

Looks good mate. Glad you're pleased with it

[Funkstar]

Aye does look good. Good pics too. That spoiler you've ordered should just finish it off nicely.

[n13l pm]

Aye does look good. Good pics too. That spoiler you've ordered should just finish it off nicely.

Cheers man, trust me the pictures doesnt do the lowering justice, the front is soo low! for some reason the car doesnt look as low on the pictures..

Anyways yeah the spoiler should look good, and I also got a HID kit coming on tuesday, cant wait to hook them up. I fitted a Raizin voltage stabilizer and grounding kit in today, dunno if it will make much of a difference, but it was cheap so might aswell try.

[Kieran]

Is it a genuine Raizin Kit? YOu might want to check as there's a lot of fakes floating around...

http://www.pivotjp.com/imitation/imi...-raizin-e.html

If it's a pukka one, you'll notice a slight improvement in throttle response - nothing major. I fitted one to Hordak and it steadied out the idle and made him feel a bit more 'eager'.

[Andy Teg]

Good read this thread, as lowering is what I'm probably going to have a look at next. Just a quick query - has anyone with the B12 kit fitted to a VR-4 had any issues (apart from looking really low!), I'm thinking about the camber really. I'm definitely interested to see how Kieran's shocks/spring combo works out when fitted.

[Kieran]

I'm definitely interested to see how Kieran's shocks/spring combo works out when fitted.

Have a read of this thread - skip to the suspension section

http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19205

I won't know for sure untill I compare with a B12 car, but I would say my Legnum isn't as low. Not sure on ride quality.