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    jezz thats a good effort!! bits of the pump havent gone through a valve damaging it internally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subaru ETA
    jezz thats a good effort!! bits of the pump havent gone through a valve damaging it internally?
    Possibly, but the 6 valves that are easy to get to are gear valves, not the main regulator and relief valves. That would be the next port of call, but I'm not sure if it is worth ripping it apart again, finding another problem, putting it back together and then discovering I haven't cured it again.

    Brad - given the cash, I'd be ordering that final drive and a cusco twin plate. In reality, I don't have the spare funds at the moment.... Maybe next year?

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    Nick,

    Just a thought, but I'm assuming you've pressure flushed all the internals? Would be gutting to think it was misbehving just because a little chunk of metal was jamming a valve or blocking a pipe?

    Ah well, it does sound like you needed an excuse to "go manual" anyway

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    Once you've sorted a manual box, it probably is worth pulling it apart and checking everything, but the first thing at this stage is probably putting the car back together.

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    Sorry to hear the pump was not the issue, but bl**dy fantastic work to get the box out and back the same day.....well done guys !

    Good luck with the likely manual conversion

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    Auto box back out.

    Now I need to work out what I don't have for the manual conversion!

    Just for info, the oil pump looks like this:



    You can see the damage to the inner gear on the outside edge of the teeth. The outer gear is cracked through. The aluminium casting is missing a fair chunk on the fin that seperates the inner and outer gear.

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    So, one output shaft and one oil pump.

    TBH that's not bad. Oil pump I suppose could go at anytime, irrespective of power, and the output shaft is a weak point whether it's a manual or not, so overall I sill think the Auto is a pretty tough unit, all things considered.

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    Good work and interesting read. Only thing I'm wondering is that the pump has actually been damaged as the result of something else letting go first and then the "bits" getting into the pump and causing it to fail.

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    Yeah, Andy, it could be. I don't know what has broken first - whatever the problem still is, or the pump. TBH I would guess that the pump went first, as fixing the pump hasn't changed the behaviour of the auto box. You'd imagine if the problem ocurred before the pump failed, then the pump wouldn't have destroyed itself quite so splendidy! The pump being below par could be the reason why the box has never behaved properly since I put it in. Certainly, the box has been apart before - someone had sealed it with silicon!

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    Just to keep you informed of todays progress - I now have three pedals and a clutch master cylinder!
    This job was not as bad as I thought it could have been, although drilling a 38mm hole in the bulkhead is a bit scary! Fortunately, the reinforcement is still there, so you have a ready made template as to where to drill. I have then painted the bare metal, to try and prevent rusting. My car has enough of that already!!

    I have also identified some bits I need to buy and would like to buy:

    MD770577 - Shift bracket (Holds the shifter cables to the gearbox) Mine is broken. I have all the bits, but fixing will not give the rubber insulation that the bracket is designed to have. If its expensive then I will fix the old one!
    MR145619 - Clutch release bearing. This is the same part number as the Evos, and it seems that it can be bought for around £30. Mine is a bit dodgy, so a good investment I think.
    MR198557 - Transmission engine mount - a different design to the auto box, and to be fair, my auto box mount is well past its use by anyway!
    MD730979 - Reverse switch. I'll have to work out how to wire this in too, I guess!

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    Good work that man.

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    Good work Nick
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    lazy ****, one pedal and a master cyl in one day

    i've fitted a 2.3 rwd volvo lump in a 205 and rebuilt the 5 link rear axle for it, some people are just lazy

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    I only spent 2 hours on it today! I do have other things in my life!

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    Well, a hard day working on it today, and I am quietly optimistic about the progress I have made. I made a flexane gearbox main mount in the week - it is a two week special order jobbie and the auto one doesn't fit. (It is knackered, too!) The plates on the end of the crankshaft have been swapped for the manual jobs, the gear linkage is now installed, the clutch has been fitted to the gearbox, and then the GEARBOX HAS GONE IN!

    The transfer box has been fitted, the clutch bled, the downpipes back on, the rollstoppers fitted with the cross beam, and the fluids put in the transfer box and gear box. I have also shorted out the appropriate connections on the inhibitor switch plug, so the car thinks it is in Neutral. Hopefully this will allow me to drive it as a manual without the ECU throwing a wobbly!

    So tomorrow morning should see the driveshafts, wheels, intake pipework and the rest of the dashboard reinstalled, then lets see if it works!

    Keep your fingers crossed for me!

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    cool, you should be done by lunch time!

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    Depending on what else goes wrong. I put the gearbox in the first time, then had to take it out again. The flywheel plate was the wrong way round! The only pdf I could find showing it was a naff one for the oil seal replacement, and the picture wasn't clear! Still - got there in the end!

    If all is don by lunchtime tomorrow, I will be a very happy man. Like I say - it all depends on what else goes wrong!

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    Excellent work Nick, I must admit I didn't expect it to be sorted as quick as this ... great stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Mann
    Depending on what else goes wrong. I put the gearbox in the first time, then had to take it out again. The flywheel plate was the wrong way round! The only pdf I could find showing it was a naff one for the oil seal replacement, and the picture wasn't clear! Still - got there in the end!

    If all is don by lunchtime tomorrow, I will be a very happy man. Like I say - it all depends on what else goes wrong!

    lol dont worry. i guy i work with did exactly thhe same thing! put it togeter after doing his clutch, went to start it and it all locked up!! and hhes a qualified mechanic of 10 years!

    good work getting it sorted so quickly

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    Bloody hell Nick, you've been busy!! Fingers crossed for you tomorrow! Hope it works out!

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