Young man in search of love...

[justjon]

Quite liking the look of this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2001-Y-MITSUBI...3A1|240%3A1318

Or even this one:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/778023.htm

The one at pistonheads is the one i was going to look at, untill mine cropped up, a little closer to home and a lot cheaper, looks like a gorgeous car, i would go for that one as it has a few less miles on it, but thats only my opinion.

[elnevio]

Liking the facelift one!

Price seems quite good, but I think you need to be seeing all the history - cambelt changes, oil changes (what has been used - especially in the transmission, where seeing the volume of atf used will tell you if the atf was fully flushed and changed) - because of the mileage. If the history is in order, then the mileage shouldn't be anything to worry about.

[justjon]

Nev..are you ever offline? or have the powers that be chained you to your computer desk to do their bidding? lol

[elnevio]

I AM an addict - although not likely to see me much today...

[HMG1K]

Yep, the eBay one is great! Been ther a few weeks now. I'm sure you could haggle down a tad on price if you are buying now - plus it says 'Galant' on the back, so one of the 200 'oficial' UK imports Mitsubishi brought into the country.

A good price for what was a £30k + car new!

Welcome along to the club!

[JayPee]

Looks tidy. Just wish I had the cash now!

Just a thought though. What's the tax like on these? Pre Feb 2001 cars are in the old bracket I know, but does this one fall in to the new bracket being a "Y" reg?

If so, what sort of cost is it?

[elnevio]

No tax worries, even for the Mar 2001-on cars - still taxed on engine size

[JayPee]

No tax worries, even for the Mar 2001-on cars - still taxed on engine size

How does that work then? Is it because they're imports?

[elnevio]

Mainly - and that they have no model report and no official CO2 figure. So yes, taxed at 1450cc+ rate!

[JayPee]

Wowo - same as the Vectra then, at £185 (Or £190 from April this year)!

[bradc]

Just don't question it too much, you DO NOT want the government finding out how much CO2 they actually make

The V6 is rated at 210 or something, I reckon a VR-4 would be close to 300!

[Nick Mann]

Yep. No official figures, so no ability to put them in the new system.

I guess that cars that do have an official figure are taxed in the new system, even if they are not UK from new. So an Evo from say 2003 will be expensive even if it spent a couple of years in Japan first?

[elnevio]

Yep. No official figures, so no ability to put them in the new system.

I guess that cars that do have an official figure are taxed in the new system, even if they are not UK from new. So an Evo from say 2003 will be expensive even if it spent a couple of years in Japan first?

I think you're right Nick, due to the availability of a model report, unlike the VR-4.

[bradc]

The guys on www.8er.org seem to be happy with their tax situation, they don't pay any more than VR-4 owners, even though an 850CSi is rated at 330 CO2's

[elnevio]

But they're all pre-March 2001, so still on the 1,450cc+ tax band. So yes, of course they're happy!

[vrfto]

/waffleOn

Auto boxes, love them or hate them, they always create a lot of conflict in car forums

I was always into manual transmissions, always swore I would never own a slush box.

Then along came my first FTO, brilliant is all I could say, parasitic loss was very similar to a manual FTO, a little less torque though.

Then along came my second FTO, 1997 Legnum twin turbo engine through a mostly standard GR FTO box, I was told the box would last about 6 months, 18 months later it is only the Diff that has died (almost), the box still shifts perfectly.

The FTO tip box was apparently designed by Porsche in 1994, and I would bet money on some of the same technology being in the Legnum/Galant box.

Most Mitsi tip boxes will fail because people abuse them, loading up the torque converter on a Legnum then launching hard with ~300 hp at the flywheel is a sure fire way to limit automatic gearbox life.

I have had my car on the drag strip, spins (or spun) the wheels from idle so no need to load it up, with no problems.

I did install a very cheap trans cooler not long after purchasing, which only cost me $45 and one hour labour to fit it in series with the standard cooler (about 35 pounds).

I tend to waffle too, but my point is this, there is nothing wrong with the Mitsubishi tiptronic boxes if well looked after. If you accept the fact that you can't drive them super hard and launch them as aggressively, there is no reason you can't have one last a long time and be enjoyable to boot (I found that backing off slightly when changing gear helped immensely, like in a manual).

Oh, and they are very forgiving for novice drivers, my first day ever on the drag strip netted me 4 13.8 second runs (standard exhaust/IC/intake).

I also like to be able to amble to/from work in rush hour traffic with a coffee in hand without having to worry about shifting/clutching/spilling coffee.

All in all, if you are going to be seeing some track time, you shouldn't really be getting a Legnum anyways, get a Galant (or Evo). If you will be doing what most people do, having a nice quick cruiser, I say get the slushie.

Oh, and before anyone says that auto's aren't quick (yes street cars with auto's are always a little slower, and it is at the lights that most people have a squirt of their cars), just remember that there is a reason that most of the quickest drag racers use auto boxes (I am talking about the big V8's and rotaries now).

/waffleOff

[bradc]

Yep, if you keep good oil in them and cool them well then they tend to be ok.

[Nick Mann]

All in all, if you are going to be seeing some track time, you shouldn't really be getting a Legnum anyways, get a Galant (or Evo).

I disagree with only this small part of your otherwise enjoyable waffle!

I like and sometimes need the load space of an estate. I can justify one silly all-rounder, I'm not sure I could justify an estate car AND a track day car.

So you'll find my Leggie on track occaisonally!

[HMG1K]

Just don't question it too much, you DO NOT want the government finding out how much CO2 they actually make

The V6 is rated at 210 or something, I reckon a VR-4 would be close to 300!

My V6 is rated at 226 or 229 - whatever one, it's a point or two ABOVE the lower tax threshold, so it gets clobbered under the new tax rules.

Thankfully the higher tax brackets on Co2 have been put on hold by the government, and won't now show their face again until after the next election.

[justjon]

My V6 is rated at 226 or 229 - whatever one, it's a point or two ABOVE the lower tax threshold, so it gets clobbered under the new tax rules.

Thankfully the higher tax brackets on Co2 have been put on hold by the government, and won't now show their face again until after the next election.

And when the new taxation laws come into place...if they ever do, i will be buying a daewoo matiz. My friend with his 330ci bmw will now be paying £400 per year as it's a 53 plate.
God bless 1997 as it seems like it was a very good year!