Oils for gearbox

[pitslayer]

Yes I know its been covered several times, use AMsoil ATF or mitsis own SPIII. But I will be booking my car into local Jap specialist for a good once over before mot next month, bushses etc and a good check over the engine. So I might aswell get the gearbox oil and diff changed there,

Now has anyone had any experience with Millers motorsport oils, cant say I have heard or read much about them before, and dont want to be putting it in if its known to be cack, otherwise ill supply the oil and get them to use that. Just its convinient might be cheaper than the other 2, and might work

[Kieran]

Millers oil is fine IMHO. Generally well regarded and certainly I read enough 'Good' that before I discovered Amsoil I used it in my V6 and my VR4 (XSS and XFS respectively) and I'm thinking that I'll use Millers again in my Honda unless I find another decent 'Mid range' oil.

Only snag as far as you're concerned Kyle is that they don't do an SP-III compatible ATF.

[pitslayer]

Here is what I have found on them, which shows as you said, they dont do an SPIII ATF, so I am guessing that is a no for using it in the autobox, but what about the rear diff?

Millermatic UN ATF

DESCRIPTION:
An automatic transmission and power steering fluid.

APPLICATION:
For use in automatic transmission and power steering systems as recommended by the vehicle manufacturer.

USER BENEFITS:
• Will provide a high performance in accordance with vehicle manufacturer requirements.
• Very high resistance to oxidation and degradation in use and so suitable for use where very long service intervals are required.
• Ensures a smooth transmission of power.

PERFORMANCE PROFILE:
Suitable for use where the following specifications are called for by the vehicle manufacturer:-

• GM Dexron IID
• Ford M2C 138CJ, M2C 166H
• Mercedes Benz 236.2 (Except for GL76, 30-5 & GL275E gearboxes)
• Mercedes Benz 236.4, 236.6, 236.7

SAE Viscosity Grade ... n/a
Specific Gravity @ 15°C ... 0.866
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C ... 7.5cSt
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C ... 38.9cSt
Viscosity Index ... 164
Pour Point °C ... -42
Flashpoint °C ... 210
Cold Crank Viscosity ... n/a
Brookfield Viscosity @ -40°C ... 34,000cP
Colour ... Red

[bradc]

Why ohh why do people feel that it is their duty at least once a month to suggest a different brand of ATF that does not work with our cars, or mention conforming to the SP3 standard when we already have two perfectly fine options available to us in Amsoil ATF and Mitsi SP3.

[pitslayer]

I dont remember suggesting it.....nope, cant see where I said "hey everybody lets use miller motorsport oils" merely asked wether it can be used, as I had not heard much about them. Either way I probably wont be putting Amsoil in, it will be mitsi`s SP3

[elnevio]

Amsoil is better!

Lots more detergents, and a higher operating temperature range.

All IMHO, of course... (when I'm not mis-quoting Amsoil Don anyway!! )

[pitslayer]

I just cant warrant the extra price for it being a bit better. Not only that, I could wait at home to get the oil delivered or I could have a blast down an awesome country lane flat out to the nearest mitsi dealership

[TAR]

Just ban me....ban me now!

[Subaru ETA]

Why ohh why do people feel that it is their duty at least once a month to suggest a different brand of ATF that does not work with our cars, or mention conforming to the SP3 standard when we already have two perfectly fine options available to us in Amsoil ATF and Mitsi SP3.

because every body doesnt have a money tree growing in there back yard...

if there was a cheaper alternative that worked just as fine as amsoil supposedly does id say alot of people would use it! i mean, i cannot justify using an engine oil that costs 3 times what i can get castrol oil for and when i did use the oil reccomended by everbody else it was the first time my car ever started making tappet noise!

Pits - so is millers the only oil this shop uses? I would have to agree and get the SPIII stuff for the trans but surely they would have something suitable for the diff?

[pitslayer]

I would rather run what is recomended for the car in the boxes, engine oil im not to fussed about

[CARMEL120]

what about this one
http://www.lucasoil.co.uk/products.p...uct&product=20

[elnevio]

The clue with that one, is that it is a semi-synthetic, not fully-synthetic. Plus doesn't state that it meets or exceeds Mitsi's SP-III specifications. If you're in the UK, use Mitsi's own SP-III, which is good, or Amsoil's ATF, which is better.

[Kieran]

what about this one
http://www.lucasoil.co.uk/products.p...uct&product=20

Looking at the Data sheet on the parent site, it's a Dexron III oil only.

http://www.lucasoil.com/images/media...thetic_atf.pdf

Have to say I agree with SubaruETA's comments - There's nothing wrong with looking for an alternative to Mitsy or Amsoil ATF, as long as it meets the SP-II specification.

[CARMEL120]

can we use lubegard hfm a long with the lucas then

[Kieran]

can we use lubegard hfm a long with the lucas then

Well you could I suppose, however having attempted that the 1st time I changed my ATF I still found the shift quality unsatisfactory. In all honesty it was a bottle of HFM plus 10 litres of Dex-III down the bog as I soon changed to Amsoil. BernMC also tried it in his car - I think he 'overdosed' the fluid with the additive and it made his gearbox slip. So be careful.

[miller]

As Tim has reminded me, Nev can you ban me for ten days before i reply to this post

[alendil]

writh that oil is made in usa i bet You can get that in uk
and i think this is spIII ( look on pictures)
http://aukcja.onet.pl/show_item.php?item=559607775
sorry web is in polish
what you think any good


just found this one its veary expensive oil in poland i think its good
and they do spIII mitsi

look for qakerstate Multi Vehicle ATF D III

below its descripition i found on polish webside


Multi Vehicle ATF D III: Wysokiej jakości uniwersalny olej do automatycznych skrzyń biegów Typ A lub Typ A A, Dexron, Dexron II, Dexron IIE, Dexron III(H), Mercon, Mercon V, Caterpillar TO-2, Allison C4, Chrysler ATF +3, ATF +4, Toyota T, T-III, T-IV, Nissan Matic-D i Matic-J, Honda ATF-Z1, Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II/SP-III

[pitslayer]

Well, I will have to check, but there seems to be little point putting any oil in...as there is a little puddle of oil on my drive, hoping its not from mine, but my car is always parked so that is

[alendil]

hmmm TC seal

[miller]

or turbo's