Oils for gearbox

[peter thomson]

There are a lot more things Kyle that can cause a box to do what you describe. You just hav to think about the amount of electronics and hydraulic components there are in our boxes.
The oil is only one part remember any of these will cause your issues

[pitslayer]

yes, but I know how long that oil has been in there, and when it was last changed it is well over due a service

[Kieran]

yes, but I know how long that oil has been in there, and when it was last changed it is well over due a service

How long has the fluid been in, and how many miles has the car done since it was changed?

What is the condition of the fluid?

[peter thomson]

The point is Kyle that you can't assume it's the oil

[Nutter_John]

Sorry but Kyle can assume anything and everything




Just like if we could assume that Kyle was a complete idiot beyond redemption

[alendil]

hi again just back from longer trip araund 40 miles ang gearbox is smooth and nice i think it was good idea to go to hyundai and save me circa 40 gbp
i will keap you updatet if anythink will change

[elnevio]

hi again just back from longer trip araund 40 miles ang gearbox is smooth and nice i think it was good idea to go to hyundai and save me circa 40 gbp
i will keap you updatet if anythink will change

Did you only drain and refill the ATF? Sounds like it if you only used 5 or 6 litres.

You need to do the full flush and change (about 10-12 litres) to get all the old fluid out of the gearbox (which needs you to disconnect the ATF pipes and run the engine), so what you will now have is a mix of old and new fluid.

Having said that, you should be alright for a while.

[bradc]

But Kyle, have you actually changed the oil yet? It may not be the amsoils fault at all, your oil might be fine, but the gearbox might be fuxxed, or you might have lost half of your oil through a torque converter seal or a hole in the piping or something.


Alendil - as said above you need to use about 12 litres to do it properly.

[alendil]

i am going to do full change but money are schort ( must print more)
it was just to start and check this hyundai stuff

[pitslayer]

Don had the oil changed 2k miles IIRC before I bought I have since done about 13-14kmiles in it. So its done about 16k miles,
T/C seal isnt leaking its been parked in garage with clean floor, and still have clean floor.
Not saying its Amsoils, fault or infact I havnt even blamed the oil for f*ck all, you have all assumed that I have go on an anti amsoil amsoil ruined my gearbox for some reason or other.

All I am saying is the oil has been in there for 16k miles odd, its done very well, but it has got to the point where I know its probably buggered, its had alot of hard use and abuse, its done very well, I just think I have worn it out

[ritch_w]

amsoil should last longer than 16K so doubt thats your prob.

Mitsi schedule is every 36K IIRC and thats just a sump dump

[elnevio]

Let's have a look at some facts:

- The ATF is scheduled for change every 45,000 miles.

- Amsoil should last longer than SPIII (on which the service schedule is based) under harsh conditions due to its higher operating temperature range.

If, and only if, the ATF *IS* fubared, then that must almost certainly be pointing towards a more serious problem, such as massively prolonged overheating of the ATF, caused by something else.

Not saying its Amsoils, fault or infact I havnt even blamed the oil for f*ck all

Really? Then perhaps you can explain the alternative meaning to this element of your post at #31, which I have missed:

need to get the amsoil out of mine asap, changes are doing my head in.

Problem I have found with amsoil,, whilst it last a long time, it doesnt detoriate, it just dies instantly with no warning

Further, have you even bothered to:

a) check the ATF level;
b) check the condition of the ATF;
c) check the colour of the ATF?

The above is good advice given to you by knowledgeable members.

Please please listen to advice given, or give reasons why you've ignored it. Alternatively don't ask for it in the first place, and stick to taking to your own opinion as fact.

[amsoil]

Given that there is no better ATF available, that you are unlikely to have the power from a VR4 (as in ever no matter what you do) to even slightly worry this fluid. That you havent done anything even approaching the mileage to have worried the fluid etc etc. May I respectfully suggest that the problem may be something else in the auto box department. I have never had anyone in the UK who has managed to 'break' this ATF in any way shape or form. If the ATF is still red then its fine.

[pitslayer]

Break the ATF...sounds like a challenge

Don the oil is great stuff, Im not saying its bad, just from most symptoms the autoboxes I have driven go from great changes to getting worse and worse as the cheap sh*t oil wears out, Where as the Amsoil has been great through 16k odd miles of changes without any signs of wear. Just this past week it has been showing signs of what I believe to be oil wear in the box, if its nowhere near its life expectency then i wont bother changing it

Ill check to see if its red later

[TAR]

Break the ATF...sounds like a challenge

Don the oil is great stuff, Im not saying its bad, just from most symptoms the autoboxes I have driven go from great changes to getting worse and worse as the cheap sh*t oil wears out, Where as the Amsoil has been great through 16k odd miles of changes without any signs of wear. Just this past week it has been showing signs of what I believe to be oil wear in the box, if its nowhere near its life expectency then i wont bother changing it

Ill check to see if its red later

There is just nothing more that anyone could add to this post

[miller]

Just this past week it has been showing signs of what I believe to be oil wear in the box,

Have you changed your beliefs recently then? you always used to believe your Turbos were shot so now are we gonna suffer mutliple threads of i think my gear box is fubarred

Get on with it and get some hands on diagnosis, not heads on diagnosis

[Kieran]

The wall is still standing, but I believe my head hurts slightly less........

[bradc]

Stretches out, folds arms and waits for:

Pitslayer: I changed my oil in my stupid gearbox and now the car isn't any better, this amsoil has killed my gearbox and I need to fix it now

[alendil]

hy hy hy hy

[GalantOnly]

Just bought 20L SP-III from Mitsis... Got a BP oil, marked with Hyuindai, Mitsubishi and Subaru... So Subaru could apparently also be ATF supplier for our cars as hyundai...