Manual Clutch Slipping - best replacement?

[Atik]

Technically, its not the manual gearbox thats at fault. Its the clutch

[Nutter_John]

Technically it's not the autobox at fault it's the TC seal !!!!

[stuey]

Thanks Stu.

Did you go for the package in the end? If not what did you go for?

I didn't get it yet, think it was John & Starscream and that said it was a good deal, mines only just starting to slip at full wide open high rev situation, so gonna give it a while till it really annoys me...
Let me know how you get on with it..!

[phosty]

Lighter flywheels make the car a bit more responsive.

And easier to stall!

For those of you with lightened flywheels - have you ever had it stall on idle when the A/C compressor cuts in? Happens from time to time on mine and I'm wondering if it's the reduced inertia of the flywheel?

[Spirit]

Certainly not happened to me yet phosty

[Kenneth]

Not had that issue either. (twin plate cusco)

You got a standard BOV? if you have a VTA one, it is probably an issue with that. (When a touch soft they sometimes do that)

[Atik]

I'll have to keep an eye on that then. Once this lightened flywheel goes on, I'll try adjusting my BOV to fully VTA and change the spring pressure to play around and work out a pattern of stalling. But I wouldnt have thought a lightened flywheel would cause stalling issues.

Cant wait to get my car back up and running! Just did a 180 mile trip in my old Corolla No power, no comfort, and no proper stereo! Yuk!

[phosty]

I do have VTA BOV but hadn't thought of that so I'll check it out. Cheers.

[stuey]

Any news Atik ? Have you got the new clutch fitted yet ? Need to buy one in next week or so, so wanna know how you got on..

[Atik]

Yep, I went for this one in the end from eBay. Good communication and prompt dispatch (though I had a problem my end as no one was home to collect the parcel). Includes a lightened flywheel at 5.45kg and there was a noticable weight difference between the one that came off my car.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MakeTrack=true

Nick fitted it for me last week, and I've done about 400miles since. Feels much quicker moving off from a standstill now. The biting point is a touch lower than before, but its still ok. The pedal needs a little more force to push down, but again, its a minor difference.

I havent pushed it too much yet as its still settling in, but I did redline 2nd and 3rd gears last night to see how it felt. The pickup felt quicker but that just might be a placebo effect after driving a 1.4l Corolla for a week!

But it definitely feels better and much more responsive to the loud pedal
Definitely recommended package.

[Note that this kit requires the adaptor plate to fit the new Evo flywheel and longer flywheel bolts, available from Nick ]

[stuey]

Yep, I went for this one in the end from eBay. Good communication and prompt dispatch (though I had a problem my end as no one was home to collect the parcel). Includes a lightened flywheel at 5.45kg and there was a noticable weight difference between the one that came off my car.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MakeTrack=true

Nick fitted it for me last week, and I've done about 400miles since. Feels much quicker moving off from a standstill now. The biting point is a touch lower than before, but its still ok. The pedal needs a little more force to push down, but again, its a minor difference.

I havent pushed it too much yet as its still settling in, but I did redline 2nd and 3rd gears last night to see how it felt. The pickup felt quicker but that just might be a placebo effect after driving a 1.4l Corolla for a week!

But it definitely feels better and much more responsive to the loud pedal
Definitely recommended package.

[Note that this kit requires the adaptor plate to fit the new Evo flywheel and longer flywheel bolts, available from Nick ]

cheers fella...

[dublee]

Hi guys,

My clutch is starting to slip on high boost now.

I'm having a little trouble following this thread.

The Standard Evo 7-9 Clutch will go in no problem, with a Standard VR4 Flywheel, nothing else is needed?

The Standard Evo 7-9 Clutch will go in no problem, to use a Standard Evo Flywheel, longer bolts ARE needed(do these come with the flywheel from camskill or are those ones too short also)? nothing else is needed?

To Replace the Standard VR4 Clutch and Standard VR4 Flywheel nothing else is needed?

Is this Correct?

[Atik]

Kind of...

My understanding of this all when I ordered was, an Evo clutch would go with an Evo flywheel with an adaptor plate and longer bolts. I believe the bolts that come as standard will work in terms of reaching from one side to the other, but the thread will not go right through. Longer bolts (by about 10mm) will reach all the way through giving better hold. Evo clutch will not bolt directly to the VR4 flywheel as they have different bolt locations (hence the adaptor plate above).

Standard VR4 clutch will work with standard VR4 flywheel with all existing kit.

The Evo kit tends to be lighter and stronger so that it can handle more power going through it. The VR4 ones are enough for standard VR4 power but if you are looking to up the power or already have done, then an Evo kit will be your better option.

Hope that helps.

[Nick Mann Services]

There are 2 different clutch diameters, on the Evo and the VR4. Almost all VR4's have the bigger of the diameters, which is the Evo 7/8 clutch size.

Assuming you buy the clutch parts with the right diameter the options are:

1. VR4 flywheel, VR4 friction plate, VR4 pressure plate. Nothing else required!
2. VR4 flywheel, Evo friction plate, Evo pressure plate. Nothing else required, but please bear in mind that whilst this all physically fits, the release bearing sits in a slightly different location, due to different offsets on the Evo and VR4 regarding flywheel mounting surface and thickness. I have been told by a guy at co-ordsport (suppliers of lots of evo bits - for road, race and rally) that this can and does lead to premature clutch wear and failure.
3. Evo flywheel, Evo friction plate, Evo pressure plate. Flywheel fitting kit also required. I developed the flywheel fitting kit, because I wanted the ability to get a decent clutch on the VR4 without paying stupid prices for it. When you start looking at better/lightened flywheels, never mind about the friction/pressure plates, the cost of the fitting kit still means you get a much better clutch for the money than if you looked for VR4 specific stuff.

So the choices are all there. It's easy to tell which my choice would be, but we're not all the same!

I'll take a photo of the fitting kit and put it up in the FS area so you can see what it is.

[Mr.Salas]

Dude are our clutch pull type or push type???

[Kenneth]

Pull type mate.

[Mr.Salas]

Thanks man.
Are all evo 7/8/9 clutch pull type, because I was looking around and found 2 diferent types of pressure plates system for the evo

[Nick Mann]

Standard is pull type on the Evo too, although you can get a push system and a converter.

[Mr.Salas]

Hmm what do you guys think about the Proindia clutch kit?? any good? and how much WTQ it holds?

[Mr.Salas]

http://www.stikiller.com/product.php...cat=259&page=1

what do you guys think about this setup


whats the diference between evo 8 and evo 9?