4th and 5th gear shudder

[VR4WGN]

wish aditive its good , for this gearbox??? To give maintenance to the stamps

MEMBERS AREA!!!!!

[amsoil]

i had a look on "Opie Oils" to see how much the amsoil oil is...and thanks to member rates, 2x5 litres only comes to £111. expect an order from me "oilman"

Our price is just under that when you work it out; We will always beat anyones price on our products.

[Nick Mann]

Heh! I was just going to post up that you're cheaper with our members discount, Don!



http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=174

[vr4-fan]

It sounds like you're not doing the flush properly and only replacing the oil from the AT.

There is still a lot of ATF in the torque converter and in all the feed pipes of the system that you need to get rid of.

that was my problem , I only change the gearbox oil , 6 quarts , and still shudder , less , but still shudder , the mecanic told me that for change the torque converter oil , I need change the gearbox too again , its thats true??? because the gearbox oil , They join , or only I need 6 more amsoil new , for the torque converter? thanks

[peter thomson]

Yes you need to do it all again

[Nutter_John]

Sorry VR-fan but you are asking for the same information over and over again

join the club to get access to the data
or
Stop fecking asking for the information on every post you make



£20 is not that much at all , infact it is around 1.5 litres of atf

[vr4-fan]

Sorry VR-fan but you are asking for the same information over and over again

join the club to get access to the data
or
Stop fecking asking for the information on every post you make



£20 is not that much at all , infact it is around 1.5 litres of atf

if you read slowly , you can see that its not the same questions dude thanks friend

[amsoil]

Without rubbing it in too much....... In the members area is a full step by step article by Keiran of the hows and whys of changing the ATF in full.
Unfortunately what has now happened is that the good new ATF has mixed with the burned old ATF to make a mix of wacked out mineral or semi and top line synthetic ATF. If you drain 1/2 again you will be removing effectively 1/2 the new ATF and 1/2 of the remaining burned ATF. You will still have ATF that is 1/4 burned / contaminated. Better than what you have at present but still not good. The juddering is symptomatic of the ECU getting confused and the clutches will be suffering as a result. This will give accelerated wear, additional heat which will make matters worse and a worsening gear change.
You need to do what the club experts say and change the lot again. Its quite straight forward if you follow K's article in the members section. To reiterate, the most cost effective thing any owner can do is to join the club.

[Davezj]

very nicely put Don, i would have been happy with that answer to the question. it contains all the information that is needed to progress in the correct direction from here.

[vr4-fan]

for the people have problem with shudder , this can help

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...id=p2759.l1259

[elnevio]

I wouldn't recommend the use of friction modifiers in the INVECS-II gearbox, as the learning technology requires a certain amount of slip for the box to operate correctly. SP-III and Amsoil ATF meet this requirement perfectly, and adding such friction modifiers is potentially likely to cause MORE shudder, as the fuzzy logic is not encountering the friction it is expecting from the various plates, etc.

Amsoil's post above has already said it all, really.

[bradc]

That isn't the fix. Bad rep given

[vr4-fan]

I wouldn't recommend the use of friction modifiers in the INVECS-II gearbox, as the learning technology requires a certain amount of slip for the box to operate correctly. SP-III and Amsoil ATF meet this requirement perfectly, and adding such friction modifiers is potentially likely to cause MORE shudder, as the fuzzy logic is not encountering the friction it is expecting from the various plates, etc.

Amsoil's post above has already said it all, really.

I didnt know that I bought one for me car , !! firt I buy was this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RED-L...mZ280371773974


And know the shudder fix ,

[bradc]

Well If You Had Fvcking Checked Out The Members Area You Would Bloody Well Know That

[vr4-fan]

jajajjaja brad take it easy friends , my problem was , I only change de gearbox oil , and not the torque converter , for that the shudder still there , and how you know , I bought 6 quart of AMSOIL ATF , and buy again 14 QUARTS its too expensive, when I change that oil 2 week ago , you understand me? , I need recover , soo.... be patite , and help me

[vr4-fan]

and 4 more for the complete AYC flush , that broke me

[bradc]

Yes, you only changed that because you didn't pay for membership. There is an article that tells you EXACTLY WHAT TO DO IN THERE. It is your own fault. If you had listened to us in the first place you would have only needed about 10-11 quarts, and had a perfectly functioning gearbox with no shudder at all, and 100% brand new oil.

[vr4-fan]

I know brad its my fault , buat if you help me a lliitter I dont neeedd to buy 11 quarts know , for do again a full flush , with that money I can pay the memember ship, but know I cant

[amsoil]

Well I was 100% with Brad there and had never seen anyone with 2 'red dots'
Thought I would make it 3 but by the tme I have come back its down to 1 whats going on? Gave bad rep (a 1st for me) and its still at 1.

But back to the point is that the man still doesn't get the point; does he; do you?

[elnevio]

had never seen anyone with 2 'red dots'

Try this guy: http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37081 !