No AYC how much diff?

[kpeter20]

Hi

How much does not having AYC effect the vr4?

Seen a facelift model for sale but no AYC, i think they come with standard lsd instead.

They are all 4 wheel drive but what diff does it make on the handling etc? not having AYC?

Cheers
Ken

[MPBVr4]

Presumably it's a manual as well?

Rear diff would be a std LSD. Some say they prefer it and there's less to wrong but I doubt you will get the hi-viz dash.

I assume the silver one at E&I. If so it's been there a while.

[kpeter20]

Thanks for your reply.

My understanding is that it is a auto box without AYC, would this be correct?

[kpeter20]

Its the purple galant at E and I

[MPBVr4]

Thanks for your reply.

My understanding is that it is a auto box without AYC, would this be correct?

Sorry I don't know. Brad will be along soon to put us right but what does he know

[chris g]

If it's purple and made before 1600 on a Wednesday...

...and has an auto box, it will either be a facelift of a pre-facelift...

...but may or may not have AYC...

Hope this helps although I doubt it


But thankfully somone with more knowledge and a faster car will be along shortly to explain it all...

...with a cut and paste from wikipedia NZ

...from NZ where the air is cleaner, there are more sheep than women

...the water goes the other way as well...

...and cars go faster with better time up the strip

...and BIGGER rolling road bhp figures...

But usually with a manual gearbox...

[kpeter20]

lol, thanks for the reply.

I guess they come in all variations and its difficult to tell.

As long as its reliable and its been looked after, I am going to go for it

[elnevio]

Info courtesy of Brad:

VR-4 Type V
The Galant VR-4 Type V was available with both automatic and manual gearbox options. The primary difference between a Type V facelift and a prefacelift VR-4 was that AYC had been dropped for a standard open differential at the rear. The dashboard style had also been changed to a standard style of dash that was on normal non turbo 8th Gen Galants and Legnums, the other interior change was that the auto gear shift cover plate was black, the same as prefacelifts. The wheels were the standard 5 spoke carried over from prefacelifts. These were the lightest of all VR-4’s, with the manual weighing in at 1460kg and the automatic at 1500kg. The rear wing remained the same from prefacelifts. The manual version was 2,643,000 Yen and the automatic was 2,767,000 Yen

[kpeter20]

This place is great, thanks for your help.

I will be a full paying memeber before tonight is out.

Thanks again.

Would be interested in any members in my neck of the woods, cheshire or north west.

Ken

[TAR]

Welcome to the club. There are some people in youur area. It may well be worth getting one of them to show off their car to you so you can see what fun can be had with an AYC diff.

By the way, EVO's also have the AYC diff, so there must be something good about it!

[Turbo_Steve]

Unless you a stig, the AYC is generally the better option for day-to-day usage and occasional "spirited" driving: it magically shrinks the car during corners, so that it feels more like an MR2 sized car than a big estate.

I'd go for one with AYC unless you have a good reason not to.

[AlanDITD]

so that it feels more like an MR2 sized car than a big estate.

But with fewer hedges and less near death!!

I would personally wait and go for one with the AYC, its way to much fun the speed these things can take corners they just shouldnt is pretty cool.

By all means go and test drive it but before commiting to buy i would def go in one with AYC before you make a decision!

Will this is a bit different from the usual "auto vs Manual" we normally get!

[kpeter20]

I have come from a bmw 328i with lsd and would like to see the difference.

I will be test driving it soon so will find out.

Thanks for your help!

[keithatport]

By open diff does that mean it has no LSD?

[AlanDITD]

By open diff does that mean it has no LSD?

Yes,

Peter a RWD car with a LSD, is completely differnet to perm 4wd with AYC.

But yeah cool anyway

[apeman69]

I will be test driving it soon so will find out.

well why not also test drive one of E&I's other Galants or Legnums with AYC for direct on the day comparison?
My car's one of theirs & I'm more than happy with it. Good luck on the potential purchase.

[bradc]

Thanks for the quoting there Nev

The purple car at E&I that you posted up in that other thread is indeed an early facelift with no AYC, just an open diff at the rear.

IMHO there is no real need to buy it. If you like Auto Galants then you can get a car with AYC, Hi Vis dash, wheel arch flares and wider wheels. If you would consider a manual but must have a Galant then your only option is a Type V without all of the fun stuff.

The other thing to remember is if you do see a prefacelift, just remember that ALL prefacelifts have AYC but the auto PFL's also have ASC and TCL which can make the car feel different again when you are starting to slide.

[Davezj]

By open diff does that mean it has no LSD?

simplest way to do it is think what happens when wheels are off the ground.

open diff (or complete slip for instance)
when wheels are off the ground turn one wheel on the axel clockwise the other wheel will turn anti clockwise. with no resistance. the wheel slip past eachother without any force required.

LSD (limited slip differential)
it is all in the title "limited slip".
when wheels are off the ground. Turn frist wheel on the axel clockwise the other wheel will turn clockwise. but if you try to stop second wheel on this axel from turning whilst turning the first a force will have to be over come, to get the first wheel to turn. hence limited slip. the two wheel on the axel will try to turn at the same speed until the force required to make them turn indipendantly is over come.


bit of a basic description, but talking torque can be a bit boring.

[keithatport]

Cheers Dave, I know what it means but I got the impression kpeter20 thought the Type V had an LSD and was trying to make sure he knew it did not.

[kpeter20]

Hi

Thanks for all your help, after much deliberation with the mrs, I am going for the estate.

He has a 1999 legnum in white that I will be looking at.