LED TAIL LIGHTS FOR YOUR LEGNUM / GALANT STATION WAGON - Please read !

[1JZX100]

For what it's worth.....

red + green = brown
red + yellow = orange

[HOODY]

loving that one

[kNuTz]

loving that one

x2 but I would prefer they were clear not black

[VR4WGN]

i think theyr ugly... i like the one with the Outlander lights in them!!!

[The Vee]

No, only colour matters, but you are missing a point Nick.

Problem is that EU regulations (incl. UK) state very clear that colour of rear indicators must be amber/yellow/orange. Not a bulb colour, but actual light.
And that's the problem. Bulb change gives you nothing, red glass is such intensive that your indicators are still red regardless if bulb is white or yellow, hence you still illegal.
Apparently I got ticket for Altezza rear lights in my ex-Galant GDI. Was explained to me very kindly by police officer nad cost me 30 quid that lesson.

It's an easy fix. All you do is put amber bulb in clear reverse light location and alter wiring accordingly.. OK you then have to rethink your reverse lights................

[ILYA]

what about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWK83eGhkOc

[The Vee]

what about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWK83eGhkOc

That a new one! looks cool but not sure it'd be legal in the UK

[Turbo_Steve]

Actually I reckon you could use that in the UK if the indicator was around 4 times faster. Several busses are now running around with "bulb simulation" patterns running on their LED lights (so the middle cluster come on, and then the outer ones) and the indicators do something similar...from the middle out. If they're approved, then I don't see why this should be a fail if the indicator ran at a fast enough speed.

Hmm...food for thought: thank you.



Swinks - what you were saying about EU regs requiring orange rear indicators in the UK......all Opel (Vauxhall) Astras ship with white frosted rear indicators, so how can that be the case?

I'm fairly sure they retain these frosted white rear lenses in Europe too.

Here's the upcoming model....

Okay, so it might get revised before it hits the dealers....but here is the outgoing model in both EU and UK spec:





I reckon they got you unfairly, dude

[phosty]

Found this interesting take on the rear lights when browsing the auctions today:

[swinks]

Swinks - what you were saying about EU regs requiring orange rear indicators in the UK......all Opel (Vauxhall) Astras ship with white frosted rear indicators, so how can that be the case?

I'm fairly sure they retain these frosted white rear lenses in Europe too.

I reckon they got you unfairly, dude

Hi hi hi... orange bulbs in old Astra models, innit?
New Astra model on display has stop lights on, so how can you tell what colour are indicators .

[swinks]

Found this interesting take on the rear lights when browsing the auctions today:

jkrzysztof80 has the same set up in his Legnum.

[Turbo_Steve]

Hi hi hi... orange bulbs in old Astra models, innit?
New Astra model on display has stop lights on, so how can you tell what colour are indicators

Sorry...sorry.....it seems we were at cross purposes - you mean it's only the colour of the actual FLASH that's got to be orange in the EU, not the lens?

In which case, yes, I totally agree, although you can definitely get an orange flash out of a red lens. It's not the RIGHT orange, I'll admit, but I think it will generally pass an MOT.

[fluffnik]

For what it's worth.....

red + green = brown
red + yellow = orange

That's true for paint, but not for light.

With light red + green = yellow

The problem is that a green 21W bulb shining through a red lens will be pretty dim.

21W worth of green LEDs might do the trick though...

[VR4WGN]

Found this interesting take on the rear lights when browsing the auctions today:

thats just a 1 piece back panel glued on... i have 2 similar units for the PFL's

[swinks]

you mean it's only the colour of the actual FLASH that's got to be orange in the EU, not the lens?

Yes, exactly Steve.

fluffnik, thank you for you output. Saves people massive effort converting lamp clusters :-)

[Scanny]

the idea i am toying with is from back in the 80s. i cant remember which car it was, either the scirocco or quattro in white that had stripes across the tail lights which gave them the appearance of being white from a distance. providing the stripes are not too thick and the gaps are big enough i dont see why it would be illegal

[Turbo_Steve]

Er - yes. Also used on the Austin Metro!! (!!!!)

It'll work, and it'll pass an MOT.....but I'm not sure what the taste-police will make of it!

[Scanny]

thats why i havent done it to the saloon. i ditched the ugly orange bulbs but stopped there. i dont like lexus style and carbon just doesnt go with a light coloured car. i learned to live with the saloon but i really dont like the legnum tail lights

[Turbo_Steve]

You know that Mitsubishi did some "Facelift" tail lights.....not sure if they put them on the GDI, but they're a lot better looking than the standard ones.


Though they all look a bit BMW to me?

[Scanny]

forget the GDI mate
http://www.clubvr4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48015
this is why i have taken a closer look at this thread. i will be the owner of that on monday